Boleskin House, the former home of Alistair Crawley and latterly Jimmy Page from Led Zep.
Has been the site of some very mysterious goings on (both explainable and supernatural) but I haven't seen it mentioned in a few years.
The Princes In The Tower always interests me as I love War Of The Roses era history- my personal theory is that Richard III was involved, but not the nefarious monster created by Shakespeare (for TUDOR audiences!)
Boleskin House, the former home of Alistair Crawley and latterly Jimmy Page from Led Zep.
Has been the site of some very mysterious goings on (both explainable and supernatural) but I haven't seen it mentioned in a few years.
The Princes In The Tower always interests me as I love War Of The Roses era history- my personal theory is that Richard III was involved, but not the nefarious monster created by Shakespeare (for TUDOR audiences!)
Of all things, wasn't the Loch Ness Monster (!) spotted in the Boleskin graveyard?
I would say that reading through that is enough to make me want to never leave the house again, except that as the article demonstrates, you're hardly safe there either! :eek:
My apologies if it has been brought up before, but the Moorgate Train Crash in 1975 was never explained. Mechanical failure, sudden illness of the driver, and consumation of alcohol were all ruled out and the driver had no reason to commit suicide.
It was assumed the driver had a seizure or heart attack, he was seen to be staring straight with a glazed expression as he sped his train towards a dead end buffer.
As for suicide, history is littered with thousands who kill themselves while having " no reason to ".
A nasty crash, nastier for the poor souls who were trapped in the wreckage for hours but couldn't be saved .
Moorgate was a wake-up call for the emergency services, many lessons were learnt and new and more effective systems of work were set up by the medical and rescue services for future disasters.
I was thinking about the family that were killed in France the other day - are there any updates on the case?
It was heavily reported on for about 2-3 days, then nothing!
The media definitely seemed to ease away from the story. It all got quite confusing with various theories I recall - one was that the cyclist was the actual target and the family were in the wrong place at the wrong time, another was that the father was involved in the nuclear industry and had bank accounts in Switzerland and "business interests" in Iraq, I think there was even a connection between the cyclist and the nuclear industry. All ripe for conspiracy theorists anyway.
It was assumed the driver had a seizure or heart attack, he was seen to be staring straight with a glazed expression as he sped his train towards a dead end buffer.
As for suicide, history is littered with thousands who kill themselves while having " no reason to ".
A nasty crash, nastier for the poor souls who were trapped in the wreckage for hours but couldn't be saved .
Moorgate was a wake-up call for the emergency services, many lessons were learnt and new and more effective systems of work were set up by the medical and rescue services for future disasters.
Did LU not also introduce an auto-stop system for red lights, so that all safety wasn't fully reliant on the driver not flipping out?
Was there ever any confirmation as to what exactly caused that Air France plane to crash into the Atlantic Ocean during it's flight from Brazil?
Yes there's a full explanation if you search for it, it's quite long, the transcript is quite chilling, totally avoidable, cap again goes for a break, 18 mins later everyone is dead, co-pilot put it into a stall but thought he was still climbing, with 2000 feet to go the Captain told him that "you've killed us" as the plane was not saveable, crew knew the crash was imminent passengers didn't
Was there ever any confirmation as to what exactly caused that Air France plane to crash into the Atlantic Ocean during it's flight from Brazil?
I watched an Air Crash Investigation about it not long ago. As I recall, the pitot tubes, which I think tell the pilots the airspeed, froze over and started giving inaccurate readings. From there it escalated to the point where the plane went into a stall. For whatever reason one of the co-pilots kept the stick pulled back for nearly the entire time trying to gain altitude, when to get out of a stall you need to point the nose downwards to gain speed and get air into the engines. Essentially it dropped out of the sky and into the ocean with a splat.
It was exacerbated by the fact that the flight computer was getting such inaccurate readings that it shut down and left it to the pilots as it's supposed to do, but when they started doing the right thing to get out of the stall, the readings became accurate again and all the warnings started appearing, so they went back to doing the wrong thing.
I think that's the gist of it anyway. Someone with a knowledge of that kind of thing can probably explain better.
edit: there's a chilling part of the transcript near the end where the Captain tells the co-pilot to pull the stick back to gain altitude, and the co-pilot says something like "But I've been doing that the whole time!", and the Captain knows what's happening straight away, but by that point it's too late.
Boksbox and Serial Lurker - I think you are both spot on with your explanation. The pilot tubes freezing up, then followed up with human error was the main catalyst for the plane to crash.
Has there been any other crashes similar to Air France Flight 447?
Boksbox and Serial Lurker - I think you are both spot on with your explanation. The pilot tubes freezing up, then followed up with human error was the main catalyst for the plane to crash.
Has there been any other crashes similar to Air France Flight 447?
It always kind of freaked me out that it crashed in the Everglades too. Imagine surviving a plane crash then waking up in a swamp in pitch black. I'd think I'd died and gone to hell or something.
The mysterious disappearance of Glenn Miller in a light aircraft in 1944 (apologies if this subject has already been raised)
One of the more plausable theories being that of a Lancaster bomber crew who having failed to locate their target were dumping their bomb load into the sea off of France when as they turned away in poor visibiity one of the Lancs gunners thought he saw through the mist that a light aircraft was on the receiving end of the bombs.
ww.popularmechanics.com/technology/aviation/crashes/what-really-happened-aboard-air-france-447-6611877-2
chilling but fascinating article about the Air France flight.
Indeed, so -called experienced pilots relying too much on instruments while ignoring the obvious fact the plane was losing altitude because it was stalling.
The TV doc was sympathetic to the pilots, I'm not as merciful I'm afraid, there was plenty time to resolve the situtation , the captain for not seeing the obvious mistake sooner and the junior pilot too afraid to over-rule the senior pilot and take action to control and level out the plane.
Fairly Incompetent in my book.
Indeed, so -called experienced pilots relying too much on instruments while ignoring the obvious fact the plane was losing altitude because it was stalling.
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If this aircraft was flying under IFR conditions - or similar
(ie relying on instruments ) then a pilot has always had it drummed in that they must ignore what their instincts
are telling them and to fly the plane only in accordance with the information given by the instruments .
(With the exception of an instrument known to be at fault)
However with most modern air liners now computer
controlled etc - could anyone in the aviation business confirm whether or not this rule remains so adamant ?
Yes and no. It was under-reported but parents, who were believed responsible for the murders of their children, and women, who allowed children to die under their care, e.g. baby farmers and nurses, were routinely hanged over centuries.
From the 1850s onwards, social investigative journalism became popular as it increasingly exposed various criminal and social activities, such as child trafficking, child prostitution, alcoholism among children, child exploitation, child pornography, poverty, slums and so on. The biggest coverage was on the Eliza Armstrong case, which helped to amend certain laws and increased the public awareness.
Incest and general child molestation didn't really enter the public eye until maybe 1960s or 1970s? It was the 1980s that most professionals finally accepted it 'exists', which is still kind of bizarre to me, considering centuries' worth of literature and folklore. I suppose some thought it was a rarity rather than commonplace? I have no idea, to be honest.
Her nephew has written a fairly compelling account of obvious inconsistencies and impossibilities about her death if it was done by a lone 16 year old as the authorities claim.
She was driven around Shrewsbury and seen by people who knew her - they say the driver was 30-35 and stocky. The 16 year old couldn't drive.
Her body was found in a field but the owner had been out checking trees for felling and he swears her body was not there. He also had his dog with him and the dog would have run up and sniffed it had it been there.
It's a really interesting mystery and well worth reading.
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Has been the site of some very mysterious goings on (both explainable and supernatural) but I haven't seen it mentioned in a few years.
The Princes In The Tower always interests me as I love War Of The Roses era history- my personal theory is that Richard III was involved, but not the nefarious monster created by Shakespeare (for TUDOR audiences!)
Of all things, wasn't the Loch Ness Monster (!) spotted in the Boleskin graveyard?
Crikey I've never heard that!
I do remember a TV show where somebody who'd stayed there claimed to see a disembodied skull rolling around the corridors at night!
Very eerie place in general, even taking away the supernatural element!
I would say that reading through that is enough to make me want to never leave the house again, except that as the article demonstrates, you're hardly safe there either! :eek:
It was assumed the driver had a seizure or heart attack, he was seen to be staring straight with a glazed expression as he sped his train towards a dead end buffer.
As for suicide, history is littered with thousands who kill themselves while having " no reason to ".
A nasty crash, nastier for the poor souls who were trapped in the wreckage for hours but couldn't be saved .
Moorgate was a wake-up call for the emergency services, many lessons were learnt and new and more effective systems of work were set up by the medical and rescue services for future disasters.
The media definitely seemed to ease away from the story. It all got quite confusing with various theories I recall - one was that the cyclist was the actual target and the family were in the wrong place at the wrong time, another was that the father was involved in the nuclear industry and had bank accounts in Switzerland and "business interests" in Iraq, I think there was even a connection between the cyclist and the nuclear industry. All ripe for conspiracy theorists anyway.
Did LU not also introduce an auto-stop system for red lights, so that all safety wasn't fully reliant on the driver not flipping out?
Me too.
Yes there's a full explanation if you search for it, it's quite long, the transcript is quite chilling, totally avoidable, cap again goes for a break, 18 mins later everyone is dead, co-pilot put it into a stall but thought he was still climbing, with 2000 feet to go the Captain told him that "you've killed us" as the plane was not saveable, crew knew the crash was imminent passengers didn't
I watched an Air Crash Investigation about it not long ago. As I recall, the pitot tubes, which I think tell the pilots the airspeed, froze over and started giving inaccurate readings. From there it escalated to the point where the plane went into a stall. For whatever reason one of the co-pilots kept the stick pulled back for nearly the entire time trying to gain altitude, when to get out of a stall you need to point the nose downwards to gain speed and get air into the engines. Essentially it dropped out of the sky and into the ocean with a splat.
It was exacerbated by the fact that the flight computer was getting such inaccurate readings that it shut down and left it to the pilots as it's supposed to do, but when they started doing the right thing to get out of the stall, the readings became accurate again and all the warnings started appearing, so they went back to doing the wrong thing.
I think that's the gist of it anyway. Someone with a knowledge of that kind of thing can probably explain better.
edit: there's a chilling part of the transcript near the end where the Captain tells the co-pilot to pull the stick back to gain altitude, and the co-pilot says something like "But I've been doing that the whole time!", and the Captain knows what's happening straight away, but by that point it's too late.
The transcript is chilling.
Has there been any other crashes similar to Air France Flight 447?
Eastern Airlines Flight 401 is quite similar in the way that a small malfunction leads to the pilots getting preoccupied and ignoring everything else around them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Air_Lines_Flight_401
Here's the episode of Air Crash Investigation about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cja9xc6dpEE
It always kind of freaked me out that it crashed in the Everglades too. Imagine surviving a plane crash then waking up in a swamp in pitch black. I'd think I'd died and gone to hell or something.
One of the more plausable theories being that of a Lancaster bomber crew who having failed to locate their target were dumping their bomb load into the sea off of France when as they turned away in poor visibiity one of the Lancs gunners thought he saw through the mist that a light aircraft was on the receiving end of the bombs.
chilling but fascinating article about the Air France flight.
Indeed, so -called experienced pilots relying too much on instruments while ignoring the obvious fact the plane was losing altitude because it was stalling.
The TV doc was sympathetic to the pilots, I'm not as merciful I'm afraid, there was plenty time to resolve the situtation , the captain for not seeing the obvious mistake sooner and the junior pilot too afraid to over-rule the senior pilot and take action to control and level out the plane.
Fairly Incompetent in my book.
Yes and no. It was under-reported but parents, who were believed responsible for the murders of their children, and women, who allowed children to die under their care, e.g. baby farmers and nurses, were routinely hanged over centuries.
From the 1850s onwards, social investigative journalism became popular as it increasingly exposed various criminal and social activities, such as child trafficking, child prostitution, alcoholism among children, child exploitation, child pornography, poverty, slums and so on. The biggest coverage was on the Eliza Armstrong case, which helped to amend certain laws and increased the public awareness.
Incest and general child molestation didn't really enter the public eye until maybe 1960s or 1970s? It was the 1980s that most professionals finally accepted it 'exists', which is still kind of bizarre to me, considering centuries' worth of literature and folklore. I suppose some thought it was a rarity rather than commonplace? I have no idea, to be honest.
Her nephew has written a fairly compelling account of obvious inconsistencies and impossibilities about her death if it was done by a lone 16 year old as the authorities claim.
She was driven around Shrewsbury and seen by people who knew her - they say the driver was 30-35 and stocky. The 16 year old couldn't drive.
Her body was found in a field but the owner had been out checking trees for felling and he swears her body was not there. He also had his dog with him and the dog would have run up and sniffed it had it been there.
It's a really interesting mystery and well worth reading.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_II_of_Bavaria#Mysterious_death
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayerling_Incident
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Sikorski#Controversy_surrounding_his_death