slightly worried about spoilering for those yet to watch the first 2 episodes so will put my initial theory/speculation into tags
The guy tied up in the beginning was due to give evidence at a court hearing about a child who ran away from home then committed suicide (IIRC) the body being found at the docks.
Bearing in mind the Medea was anchored nearby, one can assume that the crew were possibly witnesses of this event and thus the crew member seen at the beginning trussed up was questioned about the evidence he was due to give (and apparently retiring on a pay off so going home afterwards).
The deputy prosecutor who was conducting the case, and who was in too much of a hurry to tell Lund what he knew, was murdered at the end of episode 2. I suspect he was going to be bumped off in any event.
Clearly the murderer thinks Zeelander/ Zeuthen had something to do with his child's death, so has taken his daughter in retaliation (this is sounding like The Bridge!!). I am wondering if the unsub <--yup I watch too much Criminal Minds had help as surely it would take more than one person to take control of the Medea and its 3 man crew.
The security of the docks and Zeuthen's house was the same (rather silly) and was supposedly compromised by the theft that occured 2 weeks previously.
Clearly Emilie had been watched (photos on Medea) and so maybe that's how they knew she would be enticed by a kitty.
Porn, maybe the child (who may be older) that committed suicide was involved in the porn trade somehow and therefore the van stolen, and premises used, were for that reason. Though how the unsub knew of the recently created room behind the cabinet in premises linked to the pimp, when he supposedly only took the van 3 days ago, I don't know. Maybe the pimp was involved in trafficking, and that's how the runaway was involved (if at all) with him.
Anyways, these are merely my rambling speculation based on one view of the first 2 episodes. No opinions yet on the political goings on.
Your voddie was magic brain juice last light minks
The dep prosecutor said one crew mate & two others found the suicide girls body on the docks. I'm guessing he was the only Madea ship mate that knew anything/saw anything about it and that's why he was still alive...?
I wouldn't discount more than one perp either. It's possible one perp could have contained the crew - but a bit of a risk going off to do surveillance on Emilie leaving the one crew member (at least) alive tied up and not locked in the room. That porn must have been on one hell of a loop. :eek:
I don't know if Emilie would have had any contact with cats apart from the one the perp provided for her. Emilie was with her mum for the whole of last week too - no surveillance photos of her and Emilie so presuming the surveillance happened either before last week or in the last day or two before Emilie's abduction.
The perp could have known more about the "pleasure dome's" hideouts already and was just a coincidence the van turned up where he was that time??? The connection with the trafficking and prostitution ring does seem more than circumstantial...
The security systems of Zeeland and the Zeuthen's home shared the same encryption system, doesn't sound so unsurprising to me, but who would know they shared the same system??? Again, someone with close links/knowledge of the family??
Am wondering if 'Medea' has anything to do with the Greek legend about Medea (which is so complicated it's too difficult to understand anyway and there are several versions, endings and characters as well, but it's intriguing. I'm thinking there might be a strand of 'Medea' somewhere in the plot regarding the name of the boat and the murdered seaman as he had the name tatooed on his 'severed arm':eek: Golden Fleece might also equate to drugs these days or perhaps golden haired children? or perhaps something to do with the shipping cargo of Zeeland?
Okay I'll shut up and you can wait with baited breath for my new theory next week.;)
no don't shut up :)I know nothing of the greek legend at all. So it will be very interesting to hear.
Yes I think that Greek legend Medea may somehow be involved. That's what I thought as soon as I saw Sarah filling in the tattoo. I'm not familiar with the legend but it's an interesting idea. The denouement of the US series Rubicon also hinged on a sign/symbol - won't say anymore for those who haven't seen it.
My initial thoughts are all over the place apart from that! To be honest I was quite confused for much of ep 1. We were chucked right in this time weren't we - shenanigans with the politicians etc? In series 1 I knew the various Danish parties but have forgotten some of them now and I feel I need to know which is which. At first I couldn't differentiate between the middle aged men in suits, as another poster says above. Also for at least 15mins I thought Karen (the Rie of this series - political advisor) was the same person as Maja. :rolleyes: Anyway it's fab to have Lund back - with one of her new jumpers as well! Oh and she's going to be a granny!
Great to have it back!
I'll do a little politicos summary soon I think, to help unmuddy or muddy the waters depending how accurately I've understood it.
Am I the only one wondering why the final crewman from the Medea was hit in the face with a hammer, meaning that you couldn't recreate his features rather than being shot in the head like the other two? This is speculation on my part but the only reason I can think of for that to happen is that he wasn't the third crewman, he was someone else. Remember the very unhelpful prosecutor before he got killed said that the guy thought that he was owed some money.
There must be someone involved though that is close to the family to know that Emilie was kitty obsessed.
I guess shooting him when he was "escaping" would have been a bit noisier than a claw hammer to the face. And if he was hit from a boat while swimming, the only thing to aim for would be the head I suppose. I'd think someone employed by Zeeland and with all those tats wouldn't take too long to be identified.
Had to come home early last night (headache) and so was able to watch 'live'. I like to watch the episodes twice as I tend to get a bit confused with names and where various minor characters fit into the plot so am pleased that I have the DVD recording to watch, too.
On first viewing, I wondered whether it was not the intention to kill the Lativan sailor but, given that he turned up in bits, he got caught up in the propellers of a boat when trying to escape
It was helpful watching with others last night and piecing it together after - that grab claw did a lot of damage. :eek:
Thanks minks - is that jumper link spoilerific because we haven't seen them all yet? UK pace. :D:D
It's only spoilery if you don't want to be spoiled as to which jumpers are worn in each series. According to that, we have not yet seen all the S3 jumpers.
Loved seeing the change in Sarah's conversation with Mark on making the the M-e-d-e-a clue to the tats. One minute badgering him for time to meet, then lightbulb moment, and no more interest pursuing the conversation.
and her seeing him and his pregnant girlfriend on the platform and missing the train. :eek:
Robert & Maja are divorced but she's still kept the family name?
When searching the Medea there was a distinct shot of a couple of bottles of meds in the foreground, but no idea what they were?
Laughed at PM Kamper saying to Rosa he should get a camper van.
It's only spoilery if you don't want to be spoiled as to which jumpers are worn in each series. According to that, we have not yet seen all the S3 jumpers.
PM Kristian Kamper. Trying to form an alliance (during an election campaign??) with the Centre party, in love with their leader, ooh awkward.
Stoffer? - his right hand man and sandwich sharer.
Karen - his chief pr bod.
Birgitte - his finance minister.
Rosa Lebech - leader of the Centre Party, having a fling with the PM, not sure about how she feels about him. Miffed with PM about the leaked memo. Already miffed Zeeland are getting special privileges and tax concessions (for Govt support?) and staying in Denmark.
Ussing - left wing opponent. Has a memo of the Justice minister & Special Branch meeting discussing the kidnapping of Emilie only days before it happened. Surely knows about Rosa & Kamper too?
Reinhardt - Robert Zeuthen's closest Zeeland/family employee or confidant - not sure what role he has tbh.
Kornerup - now sacked ex-CEO of Zeeland. Leaked the newspaper article to the press but should have gone to another paper not backed by Zeeland. :rolleyes:
Afternoon all. Unforeseen circumstances meant I had to go out last night. Caught up now.
Why does Juncker want to be called by his last name and not his first - is Asbjorn a funny name in Danish? The guy who plays Maja's bf(Carsten) is called Asbjorn in real life, according to the credits. Sarah calls him Asbo anyway. Asbo can't be the perp on the phone. He was with Sarah when the kidnapper arranged the drop off details with Sarah. Once again we ask ourselves. One baddy acting alone. Or a gang at work here. Coincidence that Asbo turns up for his first day at work just when the kidnap happens. Soren likes his coincidences doesn't he. Same with Mark and pregnant Eva on the train station.
What was Brix up to with the scantily clad ''policewoman'' at the office party? I wonder if he was getting his pips off with her;)
Sarah took a good look at the school class photo on Emilie's desk. How old was the girl who allegedly committed suicide on the docks?
Does Kamper's camper van joke work in Danish the way it does in English?
Is Reinhardt German? He's involved in the dirty deeds for sure if he is.
These two eps are giving me a distinct Bridge/Girl with a Dragon Tattoo feel.
Watched in HD. Sofie looks even more beautiful in hi-res. And everything in Copenhagen looks so clean and crisp as well. Is this a new look for season 3, or do they all look like this in HD?
I don't think all the bits would have arrived together in the scrapyard, somehow! Someone dumped the body, then it was dismembered by the crane until the operator realized what was happening.
Methinks the boss's aide is a bit suspicious... He would know about the girl's fondness for kitties.
Oops! Thanks for clarifying that. I must have been distracted because I missed that bit
PM Kristian Kamper. Trying to form an alliance (during an election campaign??) with the Centre party, in love with their leader, ooh awkward.
Stoffer? - his right hand man and sandwich sharer.
Karen - his chief pr bod.
Birgitte - his finance minister.
Rosa Lebech - leader of the Centre Party, having a fling with the PM, not sure about how she feels about him. Miffed with PM about the leaked memo. Already miffed Zeeland are getting special privileges and tax concessions (for Govt support?) and staying in Denmark.
Ussing - left wing opponent. Has a memo of the Justice minister & Special Branch meeting discussing the kidnapping of Emilie only days before it happened. Surely knows about Rosa & Kamper too?
Reinhardt - Robert Zeuthen's closest Zeeland/family employee or confidant - not sure what role he has tbh.
Kornerup - now sacked ex-CEO of Zeeland. Leaked the newspaper article to the press but should have gone to another paper not backed by Zeeland. :rolleyes:
PM Kristian Kamper. Trying to form an alliance (during an election campaign??) with the Centre party, in love with their leader, ooh awkward.
Stoffer? - his right hand man and sandwich sharer.
Karen - his chief pr bod.
Birgitte - his finance minister.
Rosa Lebech - leader of the Centre Party, having a fling with the PM, not sure about how she feels about him. Miffed with PM about the leaked memo. Already miffed Zeeland are getting special privileges and tax concessions (for Govt support?) and staying in Denmark.
Ussing - left wing opponent. Has a memo of the Justice minister & Special Branch meeting discussing the kidnapping of Emilie only days before it happened. Surely knows about Rosa & Kamper too?
Reinhardt - Robert Zeuthen's closest Zeeland/family employee or confidant - not sure what role he has tbh.
Kornerup - now sacked ex-CEO of Zeeland. Leaked the newspaper article to the press but should have gone to another paper not backed by Zeeland. :rolleyes:
This new series did come across as a bit like Forbrydelsen x Borgen what with all the references to "Statsminister" (Prime Minister)! The screenplay's excellent and series creator Søren Sveistrup was heavily involved in the writing of this series too so we should be in for some great drama over the next few weeks.
Afternoon all. Unforeseen circumstances meant I had to go out last night. Caught up now.
Why does Juncker want to be called by his last name and not his first - is Asbjorn a funny name in Danish? The guy who plays Maja's bf(Carsten) is called Asbjorn in real life, according to the credits. Sarah calls him Asbo anyway. Asbo can't be the perp on the phone. He was with Sarah when the kidnapper arranged the drop off details with Sarah. Once again we ask ourselves. One baddy acting alone. Or a gang at work here. Coincidence that Asbo turns up for his first day at work just when the kidnap happens. Soren likes his coincidences doesn't he. Same with Mark and pregnant Eva on the train station.
What was Brix up to with the scantily clad ''policewoman'' at the office party? I wonder if he was getting his pips off with her;)
Sarah took a good look at the school class photo on Emilie's desk. How old was the girl who allegedly committed suicide on the docks?
Does Kamper's camper van joke work in Danish the way it does in English?
Is Reinhardt German? He's involved in the dirty deeds for sure if he is.
These two eps are giving me a distinct Bridge/Girl with a Dragon Tattoo feel.
Watched in HD. Sofie looks even more beautiful in hi-res. And everything in Copenhagen looks so clean and crisp as well. Is this a new look for season 3, or do they all look like this in HD?
Asbjørn (DK, NO) and Esbjörn (SE) are traditional Scandinavian names. As we know from Wallander, Pontus is also a forename but in this case it's primarily confined to Sweden and the Swedish-speaking areas of Finland. Indeed, when I was watching the England vs. Sweden friendly :eek: earlier on in the week, at least two of the Swedish players were called Pontus!
Hello everyone. I've watched all series of The Killing, but am a newbie for the discussions (though not a newbie on DS). Good to see everyone on here seems polite and friendly, there are some odd/unpleasant people about on certain parts of DS!
Anyway I loved S1, enjoyed but definitely not so much S2 (also enjoyed Bergen but didn't get round to watching The Bridge - is that any good? and am not really a Wallander fan, though don't think I've seen the Scandinavian version).
My thoughts on this:
-Seems pretty good and gripping so far, imo S1 quality.
-Seems like there might be more than one perpetrator unless he just wasn't interested in getting the money she threw onto the bus.
-If I was on a bus and someone threw a rucksack onto it I'd be pretty alarmed! :eek:
How much time has passed between series? How old is Mark now? He wasn't that old in S1 was he (and maybe I've just forgotten but don't remember him in S2 - was he at her mother's wedding? - that was S2 wasn't it?)
Interesting reference by Sarah's mother to her having lots of men. Is that between S2 and S3.
I felt that Sarah wasn't quite so abrupt in this series, she seemed a bit better at interacting with people.
For those who've seen series 2 - were the politicians in that? I was rather lost with all the middle aged men in suits, and was struggling to follow that side of the story. I'm sure they'll all fall into place eventually, as I'm pretty sure I was confused at this point in the first series as well, and couldn't remember all the people. But these politicians aren't as charismatic as Troels!
Agree that Troels has been the most charismatic politician, though I quite liked Brigitte (forgotten her surname) in Bergen.
PM Kristian Kamper. Trying to form an alliance (during an election campaign??) with the Centre party, in love with their leader, ooh awkward.
Stoffer? - his right hand man and sandwich sharer.
Karen - his chief pr bod.
Birgitte - his finance minister.
Rosa Lebech - leader of the Centre Party, having a fling with the PM, not sure about how she feels about him. Miffed with PM about the leaked memo. Already miffed Zeeland are getting special privileges and tax concessions (for Govt support?) and staying in Denmark.
Ussing - left wing opponent. Has a memo of the Justice minister & Special Branch meeting discussing the kidnapping of Emilie only days before it happened. Surely knows about Rosa & Kamper too?
Reinhardt - Robert Zeuthen's closest Zeeland/family employee or confidant - not sure what role he has tbh.
Kornerup - now sacked ex-CEO of Zeeland. Leaked the newspaper article to the press but should have gone to another paper not backed by Zeeland. :rolleyes:
Thank you, this is helpful, I do find it tricky to follow it all.
Asbjørn (DK, NO) and Esbjörn (SE) are traditional Scandinavian names. As we know from Wallander, Pontus is also a forename but in this case it's primarily confined to Sweden and the Swedish-speaking areas of Finland. Indeed, when I was watching the England vs. Sweden friendly :eek: earlier on in the week, at least two of the Swedish players were called Pontus!
Cheers TVU. It just seemed odd him asking them to call him Juncker. Which they would do normally anyway, I imagine. Sarah calls him Asbjorn now. Maybe a bit of reverse psychology on his part.
Afternoon all. Unforeseen circumstances meant I had to go out last night. Caught up now.
Why does Juncker want to be called by his last name and not his first - is Asbjorn a funny name in Danish?
Hi BK. Have just had a Danish person say on the Guardian series blog that Asbjørn (the Aesir were the Norse Gods and Bjørn means bear) means 'God Bear' (cute eh?! ) and comes and goes in popularity in Denmark. I also wondered why he wanted to be called Juncker but it seems to me that most Danes call men by their surnames (Hartmann instead of Troels; Meyer instead of Jan etc). Therefore I wondered whether it was linked to his earlier comment to Sarah: "You think I'm too young don't you?" i.e. too young to do his job properly. So maybe her calling him by his first name implies that she sees him as a boy. Just a theory.
Thanks for that run down. But what party is the PM from? Presumably a centre right one if he's somewhat sympathetic to a corporation like Zeeland but what are they actually called? I'm sure I knew during series 1 but have forgotten.
@OceanAndARock - The Bridge is very good - worth a watch for sure. Many of us in this thread watched it. Saga Noren (one of the main detectives) is a one-off for sure - she grows on you after a while.
Cheers TVU. It just seemed odd him asking them to call him Juncker. Which they would do normally anyway, I imagine. Sarah calls him Asbjorn now. Maybe a bit of reverse psychology on his part.
Hi BK. Have just had a Danish person say on the Guardian series blog that Asbjørn (the Aesir were the Norse Gods and Bjørn means bear) means 'God Bear' (cute eh?! ) and comes and goes in popularity in Denmark. I also wondered why he wanted to be called Juncker but it seems to me that most Danes call men by their surnames (Hartmann instead of Troels; Meyer instead of Jan etc). Therefore I wondered whether it was linked to his earlier comment to Sarah: "You think I'm too young don't you?" i.e. too young to do his job properly. So maybe her calling him by his first name implies that she sees him as a boy. Just a theory.
I think you're spot on there, the_lostprophet, because he does look like he's just out of the 6th form!!
Hi BK. Have just had a Danish person say on the Guardian series blog that Asbjørn (the Aesir were the Norse Gods and Bjørn means bear) means 'God Bear' (cute eh?! ) and comes and goes in popularity in Denmark. I also wondered why he wanted to be called Juncker but it seems to me that most Danes call men by their surnames (Hartmann instead of Troels; Meyer instead of Jan etc). Therefore I wondered whether it was linked to his earlier comment to Sarah: "You think I'm too young don't you?" i.e. too young to do his job properly. So maybe her calling him by his first name implies that she sees him as a boy. Just a theory.
That could well be it. Sarah introduces him as Asbjorn to Brix. And he then asks to be called Juncker. Brix blanks the lad at first and then wants to know who he is. He's too young to be a killer, that's for sure. Maybe he went to school with the dead girl on the docks:D:D
How much time has passed between series? How old is Mark now? He wasn't that old in S1 was he (and maybe I've just forgotten but don't remember him in S2 - was he at her mother's wedding? - that was S2 wasn't it?)
Interesting reference by Sarah's mother to her having lots of men. Is that between S2 and S3.
I felt that Sarah wasn't quite so abrupt in this series, she seemed a bit better at interacting with people.
Mark was about 15/16 in series 1 I think. That'd make him early 20s now.
To a woman of Lund's mothers age, more than one man could be construed as 'lots' I think we only know of Mark's dad and the bloke Sarah was going to move to Sweden with in series 1. We don't really know about Sarah's life-in-exile between series 1 & 2 - probably a bad time for her I'd imagine:(
My thoughts on this:
-Seems pretty good and gripping so far, imo S1 quality.
-Seems like there might be more than one perpetrator unless he just wasn't interested in getting the money she threw onto the bus.
-If I was on a bus and someone threw a rucksack onto it I'd be pretty alarmed! :eek:
How much time has passed between series? How old is Mark now? He wasn't that old in S1 was he (and maybe I've just forgotten but don't remember him in S2 - was he at her mother's wedding? - that was S2 wasn't it?)
Interesting reference by Sarah's mother to her having lots of men. Is that between S2 and S3.
I felt that Sarah wasn't quite so abrupt in this series, she seemed a bit better at interacting with people.
Welcome OAAR.
I don't think the perp(s) is/are interested in the money. It's all about the revenge!!!!:D:D:D Which seems too obvious so probably isn't true.
TK1 aired in 2007. TK2 aired in 2009(In Denmark). And we are at near Danish pace with TK3. I think they get to see the final ever ep next weekend.
Mark was 14-15? in season 1. So he's about 20 or so now.
Sarah is all normal now and wants to be part of her family's life. But Mark isn't interested. The irony.
Did Sarah call his girlfriend Eda by mistake when she was on the phone to him? Or is that just how it sounded to my useless ears?
I wonder what how much Carl knows about all this cat business. Siblings usually tell each other all sorts of stuff. They become close in cases of divorce as well. Sarah needs to slap the thumb screws on Dino boy!!!
PS
Eske Forsting Hansen plays Mark in all 3 seasons.
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Your voddie was magic brain juice last light minks
The dep prosecutor said one crew mate & two others found the suicide girls body on the docks. I'm guessing he was the only Madea ship mate that knew anything/saw anything about it and that's why he was still alive...?
I wouldn't discount more than one perp either. It's possible one perp could have contained the crew - but a bit of a risk going off to do surveillance on Emilie leaving the one crew member (at least) alive tied up and not locked in the room. That porn must have been on one hell of a loop. :eek:
I don't know if Emilie would have had any contact with cats apart from the one the perp provided for her. Emilie was with her mum for the whole of last week too - no surveillance photos of her and Emilie so presuming the surveillance happened either before last week or in the last day or two before Emilie's abduction.
The perp could have known more about the "pleasure dome's" hideouts already and was just a coincidence the van turned up where he was that time??? The connection with the trafficking and prostitution ring does seem more than circumstantial...
The security systems of Zeeland and the Zeuthen's home shared the same encryption system, doesn't sound so unsurprising to me, but who would know they shared the same system??? Again, someone with close links/knowledge of the family??
no don't shut up :)I know nothing of the greek legend at all. So it will be very interesting to hear.
Great to have it back!
I'll do a little politicos summary soon I think, to help unmuddy or muddy the waters depending how accurately I've understood it.
I guess shooting him when he was "escaping" would have been a bit noisier than a claw hammer to the face. And if he was hit from a boat while swimming, the only thing to aim for would be the head I suppose. I'd think someone employed by Zeeland and with all those tats wouldn't take too long to be identified.
It was helpful watching with others last night and piecing it together after - that grab claw did a lot of damage. :eek:
Thanks minks
It's only spoilery if you don't want to be spoiled as to which jumpers are worn in each series. According to that, we have not yet seen all the S3 jumpers.
Loved seeing the change in Sarah's conversation with Mark on making the the M-e-d-e-a clue to the tats. One minute badgering him for time to meet, then lightbulb moment, and no more interest pursuing the conversation.
and her seeing him and his pregnant girlfriend on the platform and missing the train. :eek:
Robert & Maja are divorced but she's still kept the family name?
When searching the Medea there was a distinct shot of a couple of bottles of meds in the foreground, but no idea what they were?
Laughed at PM Kamper saying to Rosa he should get a camper van.
Good to know she'll be wearing more than the one.
Seems pretty normal to me.
I think I need to watch it again and look at all the posts, as some of of it was a bit difficult to follow.
Is Sarah's mother still married to that strange chap , or has he died .?
That one wasn't on the TK bingo.
PM Kristian Kamper. Trying to form an alliance (during an election campaign??) with the Centre party, in love with their leader, ooh awkward.
Stoffer? - his right hand man and sandwich sharer.
Karen - his chief pr bod.
Birgitte - his finance minister.
Rosa Lebech - leader of the Centre Party, having a fling with the PM, not sure about how she feels about him. Miffed with PM about the leaked memo. Already miffed Zeeland are getting special privileges and tax concessions (for Govt support?) and staying in Denmark.
Ussing - left wing opponent. Has a memo of the Justice minister & Special Branch meeting discussing the kidnapping of Emilie only days before it happened. Surely knows about Rosa & Kamper too?
Reinhardt - Robert Zeuthen's closest Zeeland/family employee or confidant - not sure what role he has tbh.
Kornerup - now sacked ex-CEO of Zeeland. Leaked the newspaper article to the press but should have gone to another paper not backed by Zeeland. :rolleyes:
Why does Juncker want to be called by his last name and not his first - is Asbjorn a funny name in Danish? The guy who plays Maja's bf(Carsten) is called Asbjorn in real life, according to the credits. Sarah calls him Asbo anyway. Asbo can't be the perp on the phone. He was with Sarah when the kidnapper arranged the drop off details with Sarah. Once again we ask ourselves. One baddy acting alone. Or a gang at work here. Coincidence that Asbo turns up for his first day at work just when the kidnap happens. Soren likes his coincidences doesn't he. Same with Mark and pregnant Eva on the train station.
What was Brix up to with the scantily clad ''policewoman'' at the office party? I wonder if he was getting his pips off with her;)
Sarah took a good look at the school class photo on Emilie's desk. How old was the girl who allegedly committed suicide on the docks?
Does Kamper's camper van joke work in Danish the way it does in English?
Is Reinhardt German? He's involved in the dirty deeds for sure if he is.
These two eps are giving me a distinct Bridge/Girl with a Dragon Tattoo feel.
Watched in HD. Sofie looks even more beautiful in hi-res. And everything in Copenhagen looks so clean and crisp as well. Is this a new look for season 3, or do they all look like this in HD?
Also referred to as Kristoffer I think by Kamper.
Oops! Thanks for clarifying that. I must have been distracted because I missed that bit
Thanks for this
This new series did come across as a bit like Forbrydelsen x Borgen what with all the references to "Statsminister" (Prime Minister)! The screenplay's excellent and series creator Søren Sveistrup was heavily involved in the writing of this series too so we should be in for some great drama over the next few weeks.
Asbjørn (DK, NO) and Esbjörn (SE) are traditional Scandinavian names. As we know from Wallander, Pontus is also a forename but in this case it's primarily confined to Sweden and the Swedish-speaking areas of Finland. Indeed, when I was watching the England vs. Sweden friendly :eek: earlier on in the week, at least two of the Swedish players were called Pontus!
Thanks Kenny. 2m for episode 1 in the consolidated ratings? That may be a bridge too far.
Anyway I loved S1, enjoyed but definitely not so much S2 (also enjoyed Bergen but didn't get round to watching The Bridge - is that any good? and am not really a Wallander fan, though don't think I've seen the Scandinavian version).
My thoughts on this:
-Seems pretty good and gripping so far, imo S1 quality.
-Seems like there might be more than one perpetrator unless he just wasn't interested in getting the money she threw onto the bus.
-If I was on a bus and someone threw a rucksack onto it I'd be pretty alarmed! :eek:
How much time has passed between series? How old is Mark now? He wasn't that old in S1 was he (and maybe I've just forgotten but don't remember him in S2 - was he at her mother's wedding? - that was S2 wasn't it?)
Interesting reference by Sarah's mother to her having lots of men. Is that between S2 and S3.
I felt that Sarah wasn't quite so abrupt in this series, she seemed a bit better at interacting with people.
Agree that Troels has been the most charismatic politician, though I quite liked Brigitte (forgotten her surname) in Bergen.
Thank you, this is helpful, I do find it tricky to follow it all.
Cheers TVU. It just seemed odd him asking them to call him Juncker. Which they would do normally anyway, I imagine. Sarah calls him Asbjorn now. Maybe a bit of reverse psychology on his part.
Hi BK. Have just had a Danish person say on the Guardian series blog that Asbjørn (the Aesir were the Norse Gods and Bjørn means bear) means 'God Bear' (cute eh?!
Thanks for that run down. But what party is the PM from? Presumably a centre right one if he's somewhat sympathetic to a corporation like Zeeland but what are they actually called? I'm sure I knew during series 1 but have forgotten.
@OceanAndARock - The Bridge is very good - worth a watch for sure. Many of us in this thread watched it. Saga Noren (one of the main detectives) is a one-off for sure - she grows on you after a while.
At your service, barnsleykeith.
I think you're spot on there, the_lostprophet, because he does look like he's just out of the 6th form!!
That could well be it. Sarah introduces him as Asbjorn to Brix. And he then asks to be called Juncker. Brix blanks the lad at first and then wants to know who he is. He's too young to be a killer, that's for sure. Maybe he went to school with the dead girl on the docks:D:D
Mark was about 15/16 in series 1 I think. That'd make him early 20s now.
To a woman of Lund's mothers age, more than one man could be construed as 'lots'
Welcome OAAR.
I don't think the perp(s) is/are interested in the money. It's all about the revenge!!!!:D:D:D Which seems too obvious so probably isn't true.
TK1 aired in 2007. TK2 aired in 2009(In Denmark). And we are at near Danish pace with TK3. I think they get to see the final ever ep next weekend.
Mark was 14-15? in season 1. So he's about 20 or so now.
Sarah is all normal now and wants to be part of her family's life. But Mark isn't interested. The irony.
Did Sarah call his girlfriend Eda by mistake when she was on the phone to him? Or is that just how it sounded to my useless ears?
I wonder what how much Carl knows about all this cat business. Siblings usually tell each other all sorts of stuff. They become close in cases of divorce as well. Sarah needs to slap the thumb screws on Dino boy!!!
PS
Eske Forsting Hansen plays Mark in all 3 seasons.