Of course they're quite right really. Surely the only suitable and just punishment for yesterday's terrible events is to slaughter a whole township of people who had absolutely nothing to do with said events? It's just common sense.
They're busy in their cushy jobs in Stormont lording it over the law-abiding people of Northern Ireland and laughing in the faces of the families of the innocent men, women and children they murdered.
Save a seat in the Commons for the guy with the machete - not a very palatable thought, is it?
Well we have worse IRA murdering scum governing us in NI thanks to their twisted, evil, bloodthirsty supporters who cheered and revelled in every vile act of terror and who unashamedly voted them into power.
It's happened to us, it can happen to you.
People are getting blown up and butchered in the street in the name of Islam and it's the EDL who are having a detrimental effect on community cohesion? People are preaching for the death of our soldiers and call for an end to democracy and despise our way of living but it's ok as they aren't speaking for the majority and anyone who speaks against it is a racist.
Yeah... I don't think i could come up with a more misplaced sense of blame if i tried.
Like that guy on the news last night from one of the muslim organisations trying to blame our foreign policy, really? So we should just let them get on with their repressive ass backwards tyranny whilst playing host to everyone who is desperate enough and able to flee?
People are getting blown up and butchered in the street in the name of Islam and it's the EDL who are having a detrimental effect on community cohesion? People are preaching for the death of our soldiers and call for an end to democracy and despise our way of living but it's ok as they aren't speaking for the majority and anyone who speaks against it is a racist.
Yeah... I don't think i could come up with a more misplaced sense of blame if i tried.
Like that guy on the news last night from one of the muslim organisations trying to blame our foreign policy, really? So we should just let them get on with their repressive ass backwards tyranny whilst playing host to everyone who is desperate enough and able to flee?
It's this ridiculous 'us or them' blame game I don't get. Is is not possible to blass the violent savagery of those two AND the thuggish drunken antics of the EDL at the same time ?
You don't think the EDL don't have a negative effect on community cohesion ?
People are getting blown up and butchered in the street in the name of Islam and it's the EDL who are having a detrimental effect on community cohesion? People are preaching for the death of our soldiers and call for an end to democracy and despise our way of living but it's ok as they aren't speaking for the majority and anyone who speaks against it is a racist.
Yeah... I don't think i could come up with a more misplaced sense of blame if i tried.
Don't you see that the way the EDL do things are not helping matters is throwing bottles at the police and causing trouble really helping the country.
The thing is The EDL is racist they don't give a flying f**k about England they just want a excuse to get drunk have a punch up and cause trouble and as most of them are banned from all football grounds or can't go because they know if they act that way they will be they are now using this as a excuse to do it.
They are happy when stuff like yesterday happens as it gives them just the excuse they want they wait everyday for it.
Yes the extremist Muslims are murdering scum bags and TBH I wish they had just been killed yesterday but that would have made them martyrs and that is the last thing we need but like the EDL they don't speak for the majority.
The World would be a much better and happier place without the lot of them.
It's this ridiculous 'us or them' blame game I don't get. Is is not possible to blass the violent savagery of those two AND the thuggish drunken antics of the EDL at the same time ?
You don't think the EDL don't have a negative effect on community cohesion ?
I dont really care what they do, it's like blaming the dog for barking because someone broke into your house.
I dont really care what they do, it's like blaming the dog for barking because someone broke into your house.
No it really isn't it's more like kicking the cr@p out of a random person because they resemble the person that broke into your house but they don't even have to resemble that person any person will do.
Plus all EDL members don't have the brain power of a dog
No it really isn't it's more like kicking the cr@p out of a random person because they resemble the person that broke into your house but they don't even have to resemble that person any person will do.
Plus all EDL members don't have the brain power of a dog
If you want to continue along this little point scoring exercise i'm pretty sure butchering a man in the street is way above anything the EDL have ever done and you can thank Anjem Choudary and his little band of miscreants for their stunts in the creation of the EDL.
If you want to continue along this little point scoring exercise i'm pretty sure butchering a man in the street is way above anything the EDL have ever done.
No one said it isn't, but it's rather sad if turning up and throwing bottles at the police is now acceptable behaviour to some. No one disputes the EDL have a right to protest, I always support there right to protest peacefully, but is it really too much to expect them to do so without getting pissed all the time ?
If you want to continue along this little point scoring exercise i'm pretty sure butchering a man in the street is way above anything the EDL have ever done and you can thank Anjem Choudary and his little band of miscreants for their stunts in the creation of the EDL.
Not really idiots like that are always waiting for a excuse if there were no Muslims in England at all they would find another target and excuse to do it.
20 years ago they were doing because someone supported a different football team.
Thing is the most people the EDL have been violent towards is White people trying to defend their home towns from them.
If you want to continue along this little point scoring exercise i'm pretty sure butchering a man in the street is way above anything the EDL have ever done and you can thank Anjem Choudary and his little band of miscreants for their stunts in the creation of the EDL.
You are completely deluded if you believe that there are only two sides to and we have to pick between religious fundamentalists or the edl. I am revolted by both of them and I pick neither. You don't need to know my religious, cultural, political or ethnic background to validate this position.
You are completely deluded if you believe that there are only two sides to and we have to pick between religious fundamentalists or the edl. I am revolted by both of them and I pick neither. You don't need to know my religious, cultural, political or ethnic background to validate this position.
Noone said there were only two sides or that you should choose one but there is a problem with fundamentalism that is growing and spreading and it's all well and fine saying they don't speak or act for the majority but you can't ignore it as all you are doing is giving the EDL a platform and if you dont want the EDL in your street then someone else should start doing the talking.
I call BS. There must've been some sort of intelligence and/or surveillance prior.
I'm reminded of the words of Patrick Magee, after the Brighton bombing..."Today we were unlucky, but remember, we only have to be lucky once; you will have to be lucky always." IF these guys planned this on there own, no contact with anyone else then it would be hard for the authorities to get visibility of them.
I don't have Facebook but my Dad does, and as you would expect his wall is full of moronic mass hysteria. Including a picture of the EDL labeled "go on guys make England proud!" and a suggestion we blow up a whole Afghan town in revenge. :rolleyes:
This is why I don't have Facebook.
Yes I logged in this morning and one thing I noticed was that the people that can't seem to be able to spell let alone write a complete sentence are the ones spouting the racist comments and showing their ignorance in blaming all Muslims. I read one comment about how Woolwich mosque was likely to targeted on Friday and someone suggested throwing bacon at them as they went to Friday Prayers.:rolleyes:
The incident in Woolwich was terrible but was it intrinsically any worse than the one in Manchester where the white man lured two policewomen into a trap and blew them up ?
Why weren't the EDL on the streets of Manchester looking to beat up a few white men ?
Just as the majority of Muslims dont support what those two did today, I hope the EDL realise that the majority of Britain dont support their hate towards muslims.
I hope so too, but I'm not sure they have the intelligence to realise that about either the majority of Muslims, or the majority of Britain.
...Most people outside their work place or in private secretly admire the fact that the EDL exists but are naturally too scared to say it in public for fear of losing their job etc
No. The waste of space EDL and their supporters certainly don't represent me or anyone else I know they are rightly ridiculed and laughed at for not having a brain cell between them
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Of course they're quite right really. Surely the only suitable and just punishment for yesterday's terrible events is to slaughter a whole township of people who had absolutely nothing to do with said events? It's just common sense.
They're busy in their cushy jobs in Stormont lording it over the law-abiding people of Northern Ireland and laughing in the faces of the families of the innocent men, women and children they murdered.
Save a seat in the Commons for the guy with the machete - not a very palatable thought, is it?
Well we have worse IRA murdering scum governing us in NI thanks to their twisted, evil, bloodthirsty supporters who cheered and revelled in every vile act of terror and who unashamedly voted them into power.
It's happened to us, it can happen to you.
Cos a fair better way to defend England is to aim yourself with a Stella and a quick bout of moronic chanting on the street corner....apparently.
Yeah... I don't think i could come up with a more misplaced sense of blame if i tried.
Like that guy on the news last night from one of the muslim organisations trying to blame our foreign policy, really? So we should just let them get on with their repressive ass backwards tyranny whilst playing host to everyone who is desperate enough and able to flee?
It's this ridiculous 'us or them' blame game I don't get. Is is not possible to blass the violent savagery of those two AND the thuggish drunken antics of the EDL at the same time ?
You don't think the EDL don't have a negative effect on community cohesion ?
Don't you see that the way the EDL do things are not helping matters is throwing bottles at the police and causing trouble really helping the country.
The thing is The EDL is racist they don't give a flying f**k about England they just want a excuse to get drunk have a punch up and cause trouble and as most of them are banned from all football grounds or can't go because they know if they act that way they will be they are now using this as a excuse to do it.
They are happy when stuff like yesterday happens as it gives them just the excuse they want they wait everyday for it.
Yes the extremist Muslims are murdering scum bags and TBH I wish they had just been killed yesterday but that would have made them martyrs and that is the last thing we need but like the EDL they don't speak for the majority.
The World would be a much better and happier place without the lot of them.
I dont really care what they do, it's like blaming the dog for barking because someone broke into your house.
No it really isn't it's more like kicking the cr@p out of a random person because they resemble the person that broke into your house but they don't even have to resemble that person any person will do.
Plus all EDL members don't have the brain power of a dog
So you don't care that the EDL turn up and throw bottles at the police ? Each to there own....
If you want to continue along this little point scoring exercise i'm pretty sure butchering a man in the street is way above anything the EDL have ever done and you can thank Anjem Choudary and his little band of miscreants for their stunts in the creation of the EDL.
No one said it isn't, but it's rather sad if turning up and throwing bottles at the police is now acceptable behaviour to some. No one disputes the EDL have a right to protest, I always support there right to protest peacefully, but is it really too much to expect them to do so without getting pissed all the time ?
Not really idiots like that are always waiting for a excuse if there were no Muslims in England at all they would find another target and excuse to do it.
20 years ago they were doing because someone supported a different football team.
Thing is the most people the EDL have been violent towards is White people trying to defend their home towns from them.
You are completely deluded if you believe that there are only two sides to and we have to pick between religious fundamentalists or the edl. I am revolted by both of them and I pick neither. You don't need to know my religious, cultural, political or ethnic background to validate this position.
That's the inference but I suspect we won't know until the trial for sure.
I call BS. There must've been some sort of intelligence and/or surveillance prior.
Noone said there were only two sides or that you should choose one but there is a problem with fundamentalism that is growing and spreading and it's all well and fine saying they don't speak or act for the majority but you can't ignore it as all you are doing is giving the EDL a platform and if you dont want the EDL in your street then someone else should start doing the talking.
I'm reminded of the words of Patrick Magee, after the Brighton bombing..."Today we were unlucky, but remember, we only have to be lucky once; you will have to be lucky always." IF these guys planned this on there own, no contact with anyone else then it would be hard for the authorities to get visibility of them.
Yes I logged in this morning and one thing I noticed was that the people that can't seem to be able to spell let alone write a complete sentence are the ones spouting the racist comments and showing their ignorance in blaming all Muslims. I read one comment about how Woolwich mosque was likely to targeted on Friday and someone suggested throwing bacon at them as they went to Friday Prayers.:rolleyes:
I was wondering that. There's absolutely no point in anyone going there, as the attackers are in hospital, under police custody.
Yes, absolutely. Using a horrific attack to promote their own agenda.
I hope so too, but I'm not sure they have the intelligence to realise that about either the majority of Muslims, or the majority of Britain.
Obviously not. But those don't represent all Muslims, just as the IRA did not represent most Irish Republicans.
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