Yes, but as if they will! Our goverment/politicians are far too spineless to make such a bold move.
I fear that in the long run you could be right Holli, however, it seems that politicians have really got their claws into this as it may be THE moment to begin clipping Murdoch political hold in this country. No politician/government opposition party and now the police should be cowering away from NI as they have been doing for many years now. I genuinely hope politicians take this stand and sort it out once and for all, they have been handed the ammunition on a plate.
I posted earlier that Murdoch has not been seen or interviewed since this scandal broke, as any other person would have been, well I was wrong he was on Fox news.
I like the way the presenter adheres to basic journalistic integrity and doesn't let the fact that Murdoch is his boss deter from his questions and as any impartial news presenter/journalist would goes for the 'scoop' instead..oh hang on:rolleyes:
Have you got sales figures to back up that statement?
I'm sure the number of people dealing in child pornography on the internet has not decreased over the years but it doesn't mean the general public don't find it abhorent.
Why is this hacking thing news? It’s old news, people where sent to jail for it!
Because it wasn't knowledge that the phone of missing girl, part of an ongoing police investigation, was hacked and messages deleted.
The News Of The World had a policeman under surveillance, a policeman that was investigating the brutal death of a private investigator. (an investigator who had worked for NOTW)
Accusations of the parent of a murdered child phone being hacked.
Accusations of the familes phones of dead soldiers being hacked
Payment to police for information, and no doubt hush hush money as well.
To be honest the list is now getting pretty endless to even begin repeating it all here.
Because it wasn't knowledge that the phone of missing girl, part of an ongoing police investigation, was hacked and messages deleted.
The News Of The World had a policeman under surveillance, a policeman that was investigating the brutal death of a private investigator. (an investigator who had worked for NOTW)
Accusations of the parent of a murdered child phone being hacked.
Accusations of the familes phones of dead soldiers being hacked
Payment to police for information, and no doubt hush hush money as well.
To be honest the list is now getting pretty endless to even begin repeating it all here.
well it sounds like the police did a piss poor job and should be held accountable!
Why is this hacking thing news? It’s old news, people where sent to jail for it!
Anyone thinking that they only went after celebs must be daft they hacked anyone that was news worthy!
Boycott, do me a favour most of the people that get the NOTW couldn’t give a crap.. Plus this was done years ago under a different regime..
Err wake up and smell the coffee...this happened under Rebekah Brooks editor ship....it was just one reporter and a few stories....there is said to be thousands of pages with possibly hundreds and hundreds of names and details.
For years it was said it was just one rogue reporter!!!
As far back as 2002 Rebekah Wade was made aware of actions by a reporter that could jepordise a murder enquiry.
Rebekah said in committee 'we paid police' but nothing was done to stop the corruption.
The people who 'fully investigated' the claims are mainly still in situ.
Rebekah has risen through the ranks to a senior executive level....new regime?
And she's in charge of the new investigation, maybe she's regarded as a 'safe pair of hands'.
Personally I think as Hugh Grant has alluded to, all the newspapers are guilty it's just the News of the World that's being slammed at the moment, and probably why some of the papers are being very tentative in their reporting. I don't think any of the papers can claim any sort of moral high ground in this situation and I hope any public enquiry will put ALL the papers firmly back in their place. As for the NOTW, as a starting point Rebekah Brooks has to go, if they seriously want to try and repair the damage she has to go.
A spokesman for the Royal British Legion has just issued this statement.
"We can't with any conscience campaign alongside News Of The World on behalf of Armed Forces families while it stands accused of preying on these same families in the lowest depths of their misery.
The hacking allegations have shocked us to the core."
Keeping in mind that the NI papers have always had a close relationship with armed forces charity's the back lash from the allegations could be far greater than expected from the Wapping bunker and low profile scapegoats will not suffice. a
well it sounds like the police did a piss poor job and should be held accountable!
I could not agree more, you are completely and undeniably right, but it isn't just about the police, it is the entire political and media landscape in the tabloids (in this case the Murdoch owned) that is effected and it has been shown to be rotten, absolutely rotten.
Murdoch needs removing from the hold he has on the political landscape in this country. The politicians are realising that this is their chance.
Err wake up and smell the coffee...this happened under Rebekah Brooks editor ship....it was just one reporter and a few stories....there is said to be thousands of pages with possibly hundreds and hundreds of names and details.
For years it was said it was just one rogue reporter!!!
As far back as 2002 Rebekah Wade was made aware of actions by a reporter that could jepordise a murder enquiry.
Rebekah said in committee 'we paid police' but nothing was done to stop the corruption.
The people who 'fully investigated' the claims are mainly still in situ.
Rebekah has risen through the ranks to a senior executive level....new regime?
And she's in charge of the new investigation, maybe she's regarded as a 'safe pair of hands'.
You do realise that phone hacking is illegal and it's down to the police to do the investigation and the CPS to say if there is any case to answer.
The case was investigated and criminal proceedings where brought.
The real story is the incompetence of the investigating officers for not getting to the bottom of it.
You do realise that phone hacking is illegal and it's down to the police to do the investigation and the CPS to say if there is any case to answer.
The case was investigated and criminal proceedings where brought.
The real story is the incompetence of the investigating officers for not getting to the bottom of it.
What strange logic. The incompetence of the investigating officers is certainly a factor, but why are you trying to deflect blame from the perpetrators of the crime itself?
Are you aware that there is an ongoing investigation into this matter? It's not a closed case.
I could not agree more, you are completely and undeniably right, but it isn't just about the police, it is the entire political and media landscape in the tabloids (in this case the Murdoch owned) that is effected and it has been shown to be rotten, absolutely rotten.
Murdoch needs removing from the hold he has on the political landscape in this country. The politicians are realising that this is their chance.
Well you’re saying that everything from the top down has to go, only way of doing that is a revolution. See you on the front line brother!
What strange logic. The incompetence of the investigating officers is certainly a factor, but why are you trying to deflect blame from the perpetrators of the crime itself?
Not deflecting anything as those who committed the crime have been held to account or would you like them flogged as well?
Not deflecting anything as those who committed the crime have been held to account or would you like them flogged as well?
That's like saying that someone who has been convicted for one crime - and lied at his trial about it being an isolated incident - should not later be convicted for a string of crimes he committed at the same time.
I wonder if Rebecca Brookes' words will come back to haunt her - "It's inconceivable that I knew" etc. Being inconceivable isn't quite the same as not being true.
There is a clip on YouTube of her telling a Commons committee that they had paid police - from 2003!
He and his family certainly call the shows you know.
I don't think some at Sky News are following the script, the reports have showed no signs of bias toward Uncle Rupert.
Guests from the Guardian and others from the anti-merger camp have been given time to put their case across when interviewed. In fact guest's seem to be led into commenting on the merger after commenting on the hacking.
Adam Boultons blog almost praises Tom Watson.
Guest also seem to be allowed to be frank on their assessment on the validity of Rupert's apologies and assurances of transparency.
Because it wasn't knowledge that the phone of missing girl, part of an ongoing police investigation, was hacked and messages deleted..
Most people did not have much sympathy for celebrities and politicians who were too stupid to change the password on their voicemail but it is different when it starts to affect ordinary members of the public particularly relatives of the victims of crimes and servicemen killed in action.
But it is much more widespread than "hacking" voicemail, journalists have been routinely "blagging" information from a whole range of sources by pretending to be someone else though News International seem to be quite small players at this with the Mirror and Mail well out in front but even complaints about the saintly Guardian group.
That's like saying that someone who has been convicted for one crime - and lied at his trial about it being an isolated incident - should not later be convicted for a string of crimes he committed at the same time.
If the PI said take the other 4000 hacks into account then no he cannot be convicted for any of those crimes as he already has been.
I don't think some at Sky News are following the script, the reports have showed no signs of bias toward Uncle Rupert.
Guests from the Guardian and others from the anti-merger camp have been given time to put their case across when interviewed. In fact guest's seem to be led into commenting on the merger after commenting on the hacking.
Adam Boultons blog almost praises Tom Watson.
Guest also seem to be allowed to be frank on their assessment on the validity of Rupert's apologies and assurances of transparency.
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I fear that in the long run you could be right Holli, however, it seems that politicians have really got their claws into this as it may be THE moment to begin clipping Murdoch political hold in this country. No politician/government opposition party and now the police should be cowering away from NI as they have been doing for many years now. I genuinely hope politicians take this stand and sort it out once and for all, they have been handed the ammunition on a plate.
I posted earlier that Murdoch has not been seen or interviewed since this scandal broke, as any other person would have been, well I was wrong he was on Fox news.
I like the way the presenter adheres to basic journalistic integrity and doesn't let the fact that Murdoch is his boss deter from his questions and as any impartial news presenter/journalist would goes for the 'scoop' instead..oh hang on:rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHlGQPYJGu0
Anyone thinking that they only went after celebs must be daft they hacked anyone that was news worthy!
Boycott, do me a favour most of the people that get the NOTW couldn’t give a crap.. Plus this was done years ago under a different regime..
I'm sure the number of people dealing in child pornography on the internet has not decreased over the years but it doesn't mean the general public don't find it abhorent.
Because it wasn't knowledge that the phone of missing girl, part of an ongoing police investigation, was hacked and messages deleted.
The News Of The World had a policeman under surveillance, a policeman that was investigating the brutal death of a private investigator. (an investigator who had worked for NOTW)
Accusations of the parent of a murdered child phone being hacked.
Accusations of the familes phones of dead soldiers being hacked
Payment to police for information, and no doubt hush hush money as well.
To be honest the list is now getting pretty endless to even begin repeating it all here.
well it sounds like the police did a piss poor job and should be held accountable!
He and his family certainly call the shows you know.
Err wake up and smell the coffee...this happened under Rebekah Brooks editor ship....it was just one reporter and a few stories....there is said to be thousands of pages with possibly hundreds and hundreds of names and details.
For years it was said it was just one rogue reporter!!!
As far back as 2002 Rebekah Wade was made aware of actions by a reporter that could jepordise a murder enquiry.
Rebekah said in committee 'we paid police' but nothing was done to stop the corruption.
The people who 'fully investigated' the claims are mainly still in situ.
Rebekah has risen through the ranks to a senior executive level....new regime?
And she's in charge of the new investigation, maybe she's regarded as a 'safe pair of hands'.
So you keep telling us. I'm surprised, the way you feel about BSkyB that you even work for them.
"We can't with any conscience campaign alongside News Of The World on behalf of Armed Forces families while it stands accused of preying on these same families in the lowest depths of their misery.
The hacking allegations have shocked us to the core."
Keeping in mind that the NI papers have always had a close relationship with armed forces charity's the back lash from the allegations could be far greater than expected from the Wapping bunker and low profile scapegoats will not suffice. a
I could not agree more, you are completely and undeniably right, but it isn't just about the police, it is the entire political and media landscape in the tabloids (in this case the Murdoch owned) that is effected and it has been shown to be rotten, absolutely rotten.
Murdoch needs removing from the hold he has on the political landscape in this country. The politicians are realising that this is their chance.
You do realise that phone hacking is illegal and it's down to the police to do the investigation and the CPS to say if there is any case to answer.
The case was investigated and criminal proceedings where brought.
The real story is the incompetence of the investigating officers for not getting to the bottom of it.
Are you aware that there is an ongoing investigation into this matter? It's not a closed case.
Well you’re saying that everything from the top down has to go, only way of doing that is a revolution. See you on the front line brother!
Not deflecting anything as those who committed the crime have been held to account or would you like them flogged as well?
No that isn't what I am saying.
Revolution does not mean wanting an investigation into police corruption. I haven't said the police have to go.
I haven't said Murdoch has to go. Revolution does not mean wanting a powerful media moguls grip on the political system in this country curtailed.
http://www.avaaz.org/en/murdoch_messages_2/97.php?cl_tta_sign=d73e6085024765ff46a3ca1dec3cb09a
There is a clip on YouTube of her telling a Commons committee that they had paid police - from 2003!
Do Sky do phone in's then?
I don't think some at Sky News are following the script, the reports have showed no signs of bias toward Uncle Rupert.
Guests from the Guardian and others from the anti-merger camp have been given time to put their case across when interviewed. In fact guest's seem to be led into commenting on the merger after commenting on the hacking.
Adam Boultons blog almost praises Tom Watson.
Guest also seem to be allowed to be frank on their assessment on the validity of Rupert's apologies and assurances of transparency.
http://blogs.news.sky.com/boultonandco/Post:fd78bfe1-a02a-4dc3-b8cd-772bee1971e6
Most people did not have much sympathy for celebrities and politicians who were too stupid to change the password on their voicemail but it is different when it starts to affect ordinary members of the public particularly relatives of the victims of crimes and servicemen killed in action.
But it is much more widespread than "hacking" voicemail, journalists have been routinely "blagging" information from a whole range of sources by pretending to be someone else though News International seem to be quite small players at this with the Mirror and Mail well out in front but even complaints about the saintly Guardian group.
If the PI said take the other 4000 hacks into account then no he cannot be convicted for any of those crimes as he already has been.
It's a job.
I think you'll find if it was done on ethics only Murdoch's family would be left working there!
says it all really.