I don't think that's all I said though is it. Speaking of obfuscation. You did a fairly good job of misquoting me. But don't let that stop you as it's fairly standard here.
oh there was more , rubbish about cheeseburgers and oreos and fake tits .
Perhaps you're right, and the zealots screaming "Allah Akbar" as they blow themselves up in crowded marketplaces don't actually believe they're going to be magically transported into the Islamic heaven surrounded by subservient virgin girls, and are merely doing it for the kicks.
To be honest, I don't even know how to respond to someone who believes the Islamic State doesn't consider itself Islamic. I can only assume you are living in a parallel universe, and occasionally pop into our reality to post within this thread.
To be honest, I don't even know how to respond to someone who believes the Islamic State doesn't consider itself Islamic. I can only assume you are living in a parallel universe, and occasionally pop into our reality to post within this thread.
In Bollyworld there is only the fluffy bunny, Care Bear version of Islam. Those of us who live on planet earth realise there is not.
To be honest, I don't even know how to respond to someone who believes the Islamic State doesn't consider itself Islamic. I can only assume you are living in a parallel universe, and occasionally pop into our reality to post within this thread.
If they consider themselves strongly Islamic, why would they purposefully recruit the less religious?'
Your viewpoint might have been accepted a year ago, but now that it has been pointed out many times that they are a political group, people aren't as gullible as some are being.
The choices are, they are either delusional or liars. I go with liars.
If they consider themselves strongly Islamic, why would they purposefully recruit the less religious?'
Your viewpoint might have been accepted a year ago, but now that it has been pointed out many times that they are a political group, people aren't as gullible as some are being.
Islamic scholar al-Wahhab.
"It is reported from Jundub (ra ) in a marfoo' 5 form: "The punishment for the magician is that he be struck (i.e. beheaded) by the sword"
That the Hadith proves that the punishment for sorcery is beheading, which shows that it is forbidden.
Can you tell us why it is unIslamic to behead someone for sorcery
As you claim beheading for magic as IS are doing is unIslamic then you have to explain to us why.
The hadith states the penalty for sorcery is beheading, this is confirmed by al-Wahhab.
Do you want want explain why it's unIslamic ?
Have some keys stopped working on your keyboard.
I'll attempt to answer on Bolly's behalf.
Anything or anyone that paints Islam in a bad light is automatically not Islamic, even if it's actual scripture. Anything that paints Islam in a good light is Islamic.
The recruiters look for those who don't know the religion well, and recent converts. They know that anyone else is going to see that what they are doing, isn't Islamic.
How do you know that the recruiters seek out those who do not know the religion well or are recent converts ? What information are you holding back from us that makes you privy to such an insight ? I hope you can keep us informed about further inside intelligence from your co-religionist associates.
How do you know that the recruiters seek out those who do not know the religion well or are recent converts ? What information are you holding back from us that makes you privy to such an insight ? I hope you can keep us informed about further inside intelligence from your co-religionist associates.
I posted a link previously on interviews with ex recruiters and what they look for.
Also recall the French journalist hostage who said there was no Qur'an or talk of religion, just politics.
Anything or anyone that paints Islam in a bad light is automatically not Islamic, even if it's actual scripture. Anything that paints Islam in a good light is Islamic.
Hope that helps to clear things up.
It has summed this thread up beautifully. Thanks very much.
Comments
oh there was more , rubbish about cheeseburgers and oreos and fake tits .
and I didn't misquote you .
No you just underquoted me.
ah , he's got a new chant .
credible according to who ?
.
And the Nutella.
To be honest, I don't even know how to respond to someone who believes the Islamic State doesn't consider itself Islamic. I can only assume you are living in a parallel universe, and occasionally pop into our reality to post within this thread.
In Bollyworld there is only the fluffy bunny, Care Bear version of Islam. Those of us who live on planet earth realise there is not.
If they consider themselves strongly Islamic, why would they purposefully recruit the less religious?'
Your viewpoint might have been accepted a year ago, but now that it has been pointed out many times that they are a political group, people aren't as gullible as some are being.
The choices are, they are either delusional or liars. I go with liars.
That's just bunk. I never said any religion was peaceful, let alone Islam.
Can you tell us why it is unIslamic to behead someone for sorcery
Possibly for the same reason that Pulgrims drowned witches?
And it wasn't such a good idea then.
The Islamic scholar al-Wahhab confirmed the punishment for sorcery is beheading as per hadith.
Why it not Islamic ?
No use dodging the question with deflection.
You answer it. This isn't s quiz show lol.
As you claim beheading for magic as IS are doing is unIslamic then you have to explain to us why.
The hadith states the penalty for sorcery is beheading, this is confirmed by al-Wahhab.
Do you want want explain why it's unIslamic ?
Have some keys stopped working on your keyboard.
I'll attempt to answer on Bolly's behalf.
Anything or anyone that paints Islam in a bad light is automatically not Islamic, even if it's actual scripture. Anything that paints Islam in a good light is Islamic.
Hope that helps to clear things up.
No. You just refuse to answer a basic question which doesn't support your argument.
We will have to agree that ISIL are Islamic as you can't answer a question.
I posted a link previously on interviews with ex recruiters and what they look for.
Also recall the French journalist hostage who said there was no Qur'an or talk of religion, just politics.
As you claim beheading for magic as IS are doing is unIslamic then you have to explain to us why.
The hadith states the penalty for sorcery is beheading, this is confirmed by al-Wahhab.
Do you want want explain why it's unIslamic ?
It has summed this thread up beautifully. Thanks very much.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-28/isis-releases-recruitment-video-target-indonesian-muslims/5629960
They quote Jihad as obligation of religion, Muhammad and Allah.
That's Indonesia not the UK or US.
They are either delusional or liars and I say liars.
Nice beach in the photo.
So they do mention their religion, Jihad, Muhammad and Allah in their recruitment video, so your claim is false.
Similar other recruitment video's of briton's mention jihad and the quran.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/20/jihadi-recruitment-video-islamist-terror-group-isis-features-britons
Mmm John they offer a stipend, housing, relocation costs and food. Seriously who do you think they are attracting.
There are dirt poor people who will move their families there. Let's not be too naive.
British Muslims.
Let's not be naive, there is university students there.