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I think it's time to let Torchwood go...
Colonel_Jasper
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After being in extended hiatus for 3 years, I can't see this show ever coming back. I think it's best to move on but not forget the good memories and moments of the show. I personally thought Series 3 was when the show was at it's best. It was dramatic, intense, concise and gripping as a whole. The build up was strong and inquisitive. The ending was heartbreakingly great.
I don't have much memory with Series 1 and 2 but at the time, I enjoyed it for what it was. I loved Jack, Gwen, Ianto, Tosh and Owen together. I just wish they hadn't killed off 3 of the main characters and protaganists. I remember being heartbroken when Ianto died, it was also unexpected, you wouldn't have seen it coming at the start of the episode.
Series 4 is where the series went downhill. To americanised, overly long and incredibly tedious. No proper build up and just when things start to pick up, they went two steps back and later felt uninteresting. While it's a shame that it has halted at this stage and definitely needs closure, I just can't see that happening anytime soon.
Russell T Davies is now focusing on other projects such as Wizards Vs Aliens which is complete dross and utter shit but an efficient and obvious replacement for The Sarah Jane Adventures. With other programmes, I just can't see another series happening time. Is it truly time to let it go? I think so. We can all imagine a What If scenario of Sarah Jane and Torchwood still running from now but in reality, the dream has faded and it's probably best to accept that Torchwood isn't coming back but like John Barrowman said....who knows?
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I don't have much memory with Series 1 and 2 but at the time, I enjoyed it for what it was. I loved Jack, Gwen, Ianto, Tosh and Owen together. I just wish they hadn't killed off 3 of the main characters and protaganists. I remember being heartbroken when Ianto died, it was also unexpected, you wouldn't have seen it coming at the start of the episode.
Series 4 is where the series went downhill. To americanised, overly long and incredibly tedious. No proper build up and just when things start to pick up, they went two steps back and later felt uninteresting. While it's a shame that it has halted at this stage and definitely needs closure, I just can't see that happening anytime soon.
Russell T Davies is now focusing on other projects such as Wizards Vs Aliens which is complete dross and utter shit but an efficient and obvious replacement for The Sarah Jane Adventures. With other programmes, I just can't see another series happening time. Is it truly time to let it go? I think so. We can all imagine a What If scenario of Sarah Jane and Torchwood still running from now but in reality, the dream has faded and it's probably best to accept that Torchwood isn't coming back but like John Barrowman said....who knows?
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http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1990722&highlight=torchwood+is+dead
That thread runs for pages and pretty much everything that could be said on the subject was. You might want to add your thoughts to that thread.
Barrowman absolutely loves playing captain Jack and would be the last person to admit torchwood wasn't coming back unless he was pretty sure it was true. Still, there's always hope for the character popping back up in doctor who.
I wasn't aware of this. Thank you for informing me.
A lot of people think so but a lot also think series 1 and/or 2 were just as good or better, being in a completely different format and having more and better characters. But that's all been discussed in other threads for years.
I agree
In my mind, it ended at series 3.
Just like the Star Wars movies. There were three movies and then three horrible fan-made atrocities which don't count.
He talks about BBC not wanting to bring back TW or Capt Jack
Note: it contains spoilers for S1 and S2 of Arrow
http://www.alternativenation.net/arrow-john-barrowman-faking-malcolms-death-season-3-doctor-who-return/
BARROWMAN!!!! (S F)
Not everyone would agree. I fact some like myself would strongly disagree and say that the prequels are as good if not better. But this is a doctor who forum so that argument's not for here.
Would definitely agree that for me, torchwood ends with children of earth. Also series 1 and 2 are great also. People who annoyingly say 'it only had one good series' in reference to C of E don't seem to realise that if the rest of us hadn't enjoyed series 1 and 2 so much it would never have got a third series in the first place. The fact that it did just proves the popularity of the first 2 series.
I've just been watching this on DVD:
http://www.bbcshop.com/content/ebiz/bbc/invt/bbcdvd2243/bbcdcd2243lrg.gif
I really liked Burn Gorman's portrayal of Mister Guppy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KN9rRuAS88
They should go to Amazon or Netflix for a co-production! How exciting would that be? RTD and Julie Gardner should be given plenty of credit for going for it in the US with Miracle Day, even if it didn't turn out as good as it could have (personally I think there are 3 or 4 brilliant episodes in there).
A 6 hour story would be very welcome indeed!
Pretty sure it will never return, but I would be up for it if it was UK produced only and had gwen and Jack back in wales in a temporary hub searching for new potential team members. I know they can't completely pretend miracle day never happened but they could brush it off with a sentence or two about how/why they came back to wales and dumped that rex guy long the way, so acknowledging it but barely, just enough to keep the continuity.
Similar thing with Torchwood, where the main character is supposed to be "eternal" and yet he's being played by an actor who, with the best will in the world, isn't the same guy he was 20 years ago.
Can't actually recall where we last saw Cap'n Jack but I wouldn't be averse to a story set in the far future (thus explaining why he's looking a bit older) involving him and, perhaps, hinting at whether or not he really does end up as the Face of Boe.
Doctor: "Jack Harkness! Nice to see you again. You're starting to show your age!"
Cap'n Jack: "Have you looked in a mirror recently?"
It wa deliberately left ambiguous
Personally I think it makes sense - Jack is immortal but can and has aged, once you get into 4 and 5 didgets it's going to effect the body changing its form. Also explains how he knew about Yana.
Though seeing the Doctor again after millions of years, I think Jack might be a bit more direct about it, ie actually warning him instead of being so cryptic.
I still like the short fanfic somebody wrote that Jack made the Face of Boe comment to wind the doctor up and pay him back for all he put him through. The look on his face when Jack said it was priceless:)
In my mind it ran only for series 3. Five good episodes out of 41 produced. The rest are tacky, gimmicky and dull — though there's not a single creative talent involved that I haven't found to be good elsewhere.
Barrowman was best with Eccleston.
Per Cumaean Sybil, he should have been the size of a spec of dust, trapped within a basket.