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Opinion Polls Discussion Thread (Part 3)

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    jjnejjne Posts: 6,580
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    Eve of election @Survation super poll for @DailyMirror Lab 33, Con 33, LD 9, UKIP 16, SNP 5 #GE2015
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    Jason C wrote: »
    Ah.

    There's something rather fitting about YouGov's polling during the whole of this campaign that their grand finale super-poll should produce a tie.

    Incidentally, it was mentioned earlier that the odds of Cameron remaining PM were shortening - and I've noticed that Betfair have brought him in to 1.9 with Miliband drifting out to 2.12.

    Should anything be read into that?

    Dan Hodges

    Dan Hodges is a former Labour Party and GMB trade union official, and has managed numerous independent political campaigns. He writes about Labour with tribal loyalty and without reservation.
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    Amanda_RaymondAmanda_Raymond Posts: 2,302
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    Just a reminder that Kellner predicted a Tory majority of 30 in 2010
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 872
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    Am I reading this right, every poll out today has the LibDems on single digits.
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    Chirpy_ChickenChirpy_Chicken Posts: 1,740
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    FINAL @dailymirror poll. Headline is ballot paper. Sample size 4088:
    CON 31.4% LAB 31.4% UKIP 15.7% LD 9.6% GRE 4.8 SNP 4.7% PC 0.4 AP 1.9%
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    Paul_CullotyPaul_Culloty Posts: 564
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    Am I reading this right, every poll out today has the LibDems on single digits.

    No, last YouGov poll has them on ten.
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    jjnejjne Posts: 6,580
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    jjne wrote: »
    Eve of election @Survation super poll for @DailyMirror Lab 33, Con 33, LD 9, UKIP 16, SNP 5 #GE2015
    FINAL @dailymirror poll. Headline is ballot paper. Sample size 4088:
    CON 31.4% LAB 31.4% UKIP 15.7% LD 9.6% GRE 4.8 SNP 4.7% PC 0.4 AP 1.9%

    Hmmm. Some dodgy rounding going on with the earlier tweet!
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    TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    Is it only YouGov who are doing a "forecast" that is radically different from their "normal" polls?

    The YouGov Forecast is:

    Con: 284 seats
    Lab: 263 seats

    Their NowCast is a tie on 276.

    I don't understand what the point of two polling models is, unless YouGov are trying to cover all their bases this time... (they are)
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    Amanda_RaymondAmanda_Raymond Posts: 2,302
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    Tassium wrote: »
    Is it only YouGov who are doing a "forecast" that is radically different from their "normal" polls?

    The YouGov Forecast is:

    Con: 284 seats
    Lab: 263 seats

    Their NowCast is a tie on 276.

    I don't understand what the point of two polling models is, unless YouGov are trying to cover all their bases this time... (they are)

    It's all very odd, Kellner thinks there will be just a small swing in the marginals but unless he has evidence of that, he's just guessing
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    jjnejjne Posts: 6,580
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    Tassium wrote: »
    Is it only YouGov who are doing a "forecast" that is radically different from their "normal" polls?

    The YouGov Forecast is:

    Con: 284 seats
    Lab: 263 seats

    Their NowCast is a tie on 276.

    I don't understand what the point of two polling models is, unless YouGov are trying to cover all their bases this time... (they are)

    Nowcast is unscientific.

    UKIP supporters were tagging onto this a week ago when it was showing big wins for their party. It went down to just one today, and all of a sudden they've gone rather quiet on the subject :D
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    apaulapaul Posts: 9,846
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    Dan Hodges is tweeting that the tories will win a small majority.But he's not too optimistic about it

    Obviously not related to Dan Tories will win by at last 7% Hodges.
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    iain_stevenson1iain_stevenson1 Posts: 1,349
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    Something else to factor in... apparently there is a rather high number of undecided voters.. even tonight. And there is also some talk of "Shy Tories" .. ie.. people who will vote CON but don't want to admit it during polling.

    Could all be grasping at straws however.

    am I the one who thinks the whole concept of 'shy' tory voters is a load of rubbish?
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    Jason CJason C Posts: 31,336
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    It's all very odd, Kellner thinks there will be just a small swing in the marginals but unless he has evidence of that, he's just guessing

    I suppose he would argue that his extensive experience of watching polls translate to election results gives him expertise to make these calls.
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    TelevisionUserTelevisionUser Posts: 41,417
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    It's all very odd, Kellner thinks there will be just a small swing in the marginals but unless he has evidence of that, he's just guessing

    However, the feedback from Lord Aschcroft's own polls and the reports from London say otherwise:

    Battersea - Conservatives leading - no change: http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/05/battersea/

    North Cornwall - Lib Dems leading - no change: http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/05/north-cornwall-3/

    Norwich North - Labour now ahead: http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/05/norwich-north-2/

    Peterborough - Labour now ahead: http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/05/peterborough/

    Wirral West - Labour now ahead: http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/05/wirral-west/

    Red London is turning redder. The Conservatives should be terrified
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 12,139
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    FuddFudd Posts: 167,002
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    May2015/New Statesman:
    CON 273
    LAB 268
    LIB DEM 28
    SNP 56
    UKIP 2
    GREEN 1
    OTHERS 4
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    Jason CJason C Posts: 31,336
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    marke09 wrote: »

    Interesting that the broadcasters are not required to remove archive party and issue reports from their websites - as the BBC definitely did last time.

    (They could have just decided to do it themselves, to be fair.)
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    Under SoulUnder Soul Posts: 2,989
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    FINAL @dailymirror poll. Headline is ballot paper. Sample size 4088:
    CON 31.4% LAB 31.4% UKIP 15.7% LD 9.6% GRE 4.8 SNP 4.7% PC 0.4 AP 1.9%

    Huge score for UKIP a day before. Sadly they'll get next to no seats...
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 12,139
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    So the experts have had their say about seat predictions but do you think you could do a better job? Then try the for fun seat projection competition - many of you already have - entries close 9pm Thursday

    http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2069432
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    MARTYM8MARTYM8 Posts: 44,710
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    Dan Hodges

    Dan Hodges is a former Labour Party and GMB trade union official, and has managed numerous independent political campaigns. He writes about Labour with tribal loyalty and without reservation.

    And his mum is Oscar winning actress and Hampstead Labour MP Glenda Jackson. Without those connections he probably couldn't even get a job with a local rag.

    Apparently Labour but has spent 4 years trashing Ed Miliband. Sorry I have no time for him.
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    TelevisionUserTelevisionUser Posts: 41,417
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    Fudd wrote: »
    May2015/New Statesman:
    CON 273
    LAB 268
    LIB DEM 28
    SNP 56
    UKIP 2
    GREEN 1
    OTHERS 4

    ^^^ That is probably the most accurate prediction we've seen in this thread so far because it matches the tied vote share and I would expect the two largest parties to be pretty close to each other in terms of numbers of MPs.
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 12,139
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    Preferred Prime Minister: David Cameron 52%, Ed Miliband 31% @ComResPolls for @DailyMailUK

    EXCL: Final YouGov/Sun poll for #GE2015 - most important issues for voters: Economy 48%, Health 42%, Immigration 36% http://www.sunnation.co.uk/every-vote-cou
    nts-as-major-sun-poll-shows-labour-and-tories-tied/ …

    Poll by @survation has glimmer of hope for Labour: undecideds have been breaking 31%Lab, 23%Con #GE2015
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 12,139
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    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 8m8 minutes ago

    Latest Scottish Westminster poll (Survation):
    SNP - 49% (-2)
    LAB - 25% (-1)
    CON - 16% (+2)
    LDEM - 6% (+1)
    [non-ballot paper method]

    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 7m7 minutes ago

    Latest Scottish Westminster poll (Survation):
    SNP - 46%
    LAB - 26%
    CON - 15%
    LDEM - 7%
    [ballot paper method]
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    Amanda_RaymondAmanda_Raymond Posts: 2,302
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    So looks like undecideds are coming out in favour of Labour, expect get your vote out to big big tomorrow, and expect Labour ground team to be out in full force in the marginals
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    InMyArmsInMyArms Posts: 50,792
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    As always, don't expect anything exciting on TV tomorrow until the polls close!

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEWZnA8XIAAe9Yg.jpg
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