This is different to the supermarket case. If anyone started snogging in the supermarket is applaud anyone who told then to get a room. On the buses in the evening it's not rare to see affectionate couples so there shouldn't be any discrimination.
Most people here don't need quite that much protection from the evil trollz. I think it's often better to leave offending posts in place, rather than leaving a sanitised version of people's posting history. WNS must have about 30% of his output deleted.
I agree about leaving posts like that in place, i think its just a thin line between trolling and taking the pi$$, given the recent media coverage i assumed that to troll someone was to make a threat.
It is bizarre to suggest that a bus driver is showing tolerance if he 'drives people to their chosen destination' when all he has done is followed his designated route while hurling abuse at the other passengers.
As I stated to another poster I have no personal prejudices as I am pansexual. I am just of the belief that these victim stories are lies until proven truth, as evidenced by the majority of them being proven false and made up by the "victim".
What do they get out of making it up though? Media attention? Their names in the papers associated with this? I can't imagine there's much if any money in it.
And if they did make it up they're gonna do what about it? Make some bus driver with no proof lose his job over a bad bus journey which we've all had and they've have to be comfortable enough to do that to someone. Also the no proof thing would have to be considered as a reason to discipline the driver so if they did make it up then it wouldn't have enough proof to be investigated.
Bad stuff like this does happen in life whether it's common or not, people who experience it are the reason things change for the better so as most people don't have to experience it. Let's say it's seen as Ok this driver behaves like this, then what's going to stop him treating other people like that again and again then his bus routes become a bad route for anyone on them. By them reporting it, it'll make things like this less allowed to happen.
Most bus drivers round our way couldn't care less what happens on their bus. The times I travel by bus and there's chavs on there mouthing off and acting like complete and utter idiots f'ing and blinding all over the place and the bus driver just couldn't give a toss. One time a woman was on there swearing in front of kiddies and was abusing my disabled wife and he kept turning a blind eye. My wife mentioned it to the bus driver but he didn't seem to want to intervene. It was only when my wife told him that she was being threatened and demanded he stopped the bus to throw this person off or she would be calling the police and making an official complaint that he bothered to do anything about this antisocial drugged up passenger.
This is the only time I've ever witnessed a bus driver throwing someone off a bus. Maybe the drivers around here are all too afraid to to tackle anybody.
Funny how this is a carbon copy of the Supermarket Snoggers from only last week who claimed they were 'thrown out' of Sainsbury's for 'kissing' which they described as;
....she decided to give her girlfriend a spontaneous peck on the cheek.
Now two gay guys get 'thrown off' a bus for what they describe as;
I'm in two minds. A peck on the lips wouldn't upset me at all. But I also feel that there is a staged feeling to these episodes, an elememt of testing boundaries. It isn't wise.
Somebody here called for the driver's dismissal and doesn't care if he has a family to support - other people will care even if gays don't. It won't do the cause any good if that were to happen.
And lf course the couple have waited a long time to go public, long enough for the CCTVevidence to have disappeared and witnesses to be untraceable. I cannot help but wonder why.
On the other hand, if the incident happened exactly as the couple described, it does seem a massive overreaction by the driver. Such a pity we didn't get his side of the story. However, when the couple go the police and he gets charged, we'll hear his side of it then.
U fil then, I'm prepared to suspend judgement on the matter.
It seems a massive overreaction because we are only seeing one side of the story. We are getting the sanitised version in which the couple are pure as the driven snow and made no reaction when the driver spoke to them. We need to view the cctv and hear the drivers version of what happened before assuming the couple were innocent and abused.
We also need to know why it's taken them so long to complain. If the circumstances are exactly as they claimed then surely the first thing they would have done is to complain to the bus company? Or are they just jumping on the bandwagon of the supermarket kissing incident to see if they can make a few quid?
It seems a massive overreaction because we are only seeing one side of the story. We are getting the sanitised version in which the couple are pure as the driven snow and made no reaction when the driver spoke to them. We need to view the cctv and hear the drivers version of what happened before assuming the couple were innocent and abused.
We also need to know why it's taken them so long to complain. If the circumstances are exactly as they claimed then surely the first thing they would have done is to complain to the bus company? Or are they just jumping on the bandwagon of the supermarket kissing incident to see if they can make a few quid?
The sensationalism in these stories rarely helps the cause of genuine incidents.
Even if this incident occurred, as people have already stated, the article contradicts the headline. They were not thrown off, they were getting off under their own steam at their designated stop.
The sensationalism in these stories rarely helps the cause of genuine incidents.
Even if this incident occurred, as people have already stated, the article contradicts the headline. They were not thrown off, they were getting off under their own steam at their designated stop.
The sensationalism is also always used to embellish the parts they want to promote such as being "thrown out" whilst that which they don't, such as the reality of the physical contact, get's downplayed and made out as just an innocent "peck on cheek."
It seems a massive overreaction because we are only seeing one side of the story. We are getting the sanitised version in which the couple are pure as the driven snow and made no reaction when the driver spoke to them. We need to view the cctv and hear the drivers version of what happened before assuming the couple were innocent and abused.
We also need to know why it's taken them so long to complain. If the circumstances are exactly as they claimed then surely the first thing they would have done is to complain to the bus company? Or are they just jumping on the bandwagon of the supermarket kissing incident to see if they can make a few quid?
It's not a massive over reaction when they probably thought as it happened that they deserved it, that this was appropriate behaviour.
There is no law against two people of the same gender kissing on a bus so any reaction they got was out of order but no doubt as they actually were on his bus and did feel obliged to abide by his rules.
In which case he was using his role as a bus driver to dictate how two people could behave on his bus but making up his own rules to which they might have thought were real or at least thought had no choice to follow. And it is extremely likely he reacted out of disgust exactly like that because it's how people do when they feel they have the power over gay people, that type of language and abuse.
You only have to go on youtube comments and see people daily telling gay people how worthless and disgusting they are, their anger fuels them, it's something they express daily and think often.
Bus drivers pick up people on a daily basis and people get into altercations with them day in day out so bus drivers are bound to get complaints regularly and if it was so easy to complain and get action taken, it would happen all the time. So why has this one had action taken on it if it's an over reaction? And frankly if this is true then they should make a few quid, they were the ones paying his wages by paying to use his bus and how he treated them was unfair.
I think it's nice people don't want to beleive this event happened but sadly it is something that does happen to gay people who aren't breaking any laws and aren't dong anything more than sharing a moment with their partner.
I think at the very least he should be named and have his picture put in the newspapers online. That alone should cause him and his family enough embaressment among their neighbours and let them know what kind of family they live next to.
Punishment by all means, but just enough to shake their real life just like he affected their real life.
that`s a horrible, spiteful and unnecessary thing to do. "shaming" someone`s entire family for one of their member`s actions is disgusting and massively destructive.
As I stated to another poster I have no personal prejudices as I am pansexual. I am just of the belief that these victim stories are lies until proven truth, as evidenced by the majority of them being proven false and made up by the "victim".
Your wavelength needs updating. Are you still watching in black & white?
I aren't blind so no.
This country is to PC and its destroying our country. Us as British citizens should be entitled to say what we like unfortunately there's those who get offended quite easily over the tiniest comments I pity them.
This country is to PC and its destroying our country. Us as British citizens should be entitled to say what we like unfortunately there's those who get offended quite easily over the tiniest comments I pity them.
Oh, okay then. You sound like the regular Daily Mail reading knuckle dragging caveman who really should realize what year it is.
I think at the very least he should be named and have his picture put in the newspapers online. That alone should cause him and his family enough embaressment among their neighbours and let them know what kind of family they live next to.
Punishment by all means, but just enough to shake their real life just like he affected their real life.
You can't even spell embarrassment, how embarrassing is that?
This country is to PC and its destroying our country. Us as British citizens should be entitled to say what we like unfortunately there's those who get offended quite easily over the tiniest comments I pity them.
The irony of you saying this is is that, if I were to post a tirade in your direction regarding your quite frankly ludicrous attitude you'd be hitting the report button like there's no tomorrow.
I support the bus drivers authority to remove anyone from the bus in the interests of public safety. That is the end of it. PDA are provocative from any gender/sexuality. You take a risk engaging in them. Be willing to pay the price if doing so.
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I agree about leaving posts like that in place, i think its just a thin line between trolling and taking the pi$$, given the recent media coverage i assumed that to troll someone was to make a threat.
Allegedly.
What do they get out of making it up though? Media attention? Their names in the papers associated with this? I can't imagine there's much if any money in it.
And if they did make it up they're gonna do what about it? Make some bus driver with no proof lose his job over a bad bus journey which we've all had and they've have to be comfortable enough to do that to someone. Also the no proof thing would have to be considered as a reason to discipline the driver so if they did make it up then it wouldn't have enough proof to be investigated.
Bad stuff like this does happen in life whether it's common or not, people who experience it are the reason things change for the better so as most people don't have to experience it. Let's say it's seen as Ok this driver behaves like this, then what's going to stop him treating other people like that again and again then his bus routes become a bad route for anyone on them. By them reporting it, it'll make things like this less allowed to happen.
This is the only time I've ever witnessed a bus driver throwing someone off a bus. Maybe the drivers around here are all too afraid to to tackle anybody.
Yeah, I meant trolling in the traditional sense -- i.e. someone who posts opinions they don't necessarily agree with just to wind people up.
For what it's worth I don't think posts like his should be deleted, though. All views should be allowed (provided they're not abusive obviously).
Now two gay guys get 'thrown off' a bus for what they describe as;
Hhhmmmmm.
Public displays of attention will attract trouble. If you do it then you're looking for it, so don't be surprised if you get it
It seems a massive overreaction because we are only seeing one side of the story. We are getting the sanitised version in which the couple are pure as the driven snow and made no reaction when the driver spoke to them. We need to view the cctv and hear the drivers version of what happened before assuming the couple were innocent and abused.
We also need to know why it's taken them so long to complain. If the circumstances are exactly as they claimed then surely the first thing they would have done is to complain to the bus company? Or are they just jumping on the bandwagon of the supermarket kissing incident to see if they can make a few quid?
Even if this incident occurred, as people have already stated, the article contradicts the headline. They were not thrown off, they were getting off under their own steam at their designated stop.
It's not a massive over reaction when they probably thought as it happened that they deserved it, that this was appropriate behaviour.
There is no law against two people of the same gender kissing on a bus so any reaction they got was out of order but no doubt as they actually were on his bus and did feel obliged to abide by his rules.
In which case he was using his role as a bus driver to dictate how two people could behave on his bus but making up his own rules to which they might have thought were real or at least thought had no choice to follow. And it is extremely likely he reacted out of disgust exactly like that because it's how people do when they feel they have the power over gay people, that type of language and abuse.
You only have to go on youtube comments and see people daily telling gay people how worthless and disgusting they are, their anger fuels them, it's something they express daily and think often.
Bus drivers pick up people on a daily basis and people get into altercations with them day in day out so bus drivers are bound to get complaints regularly and if it was so easy to complain and get action taken, it would happen all the time. So why has this one had action taken on it if it's an over reaction? And frankly if this is true then they should make a few quid, they were the ones paying his wages by paying to use his bus and how he treated them was unfair.
I think it's nice people don't want to beleive this event happened but sadly it is something that does happen to gay people who aren't breaking any laws and aren't dong anything more than sharing a moment with their partner.
I don't wanna see horny teenagers sticking their tongues down each others throats on the bus, yet this is the world we live in. Deal with it.
Your wavelength needs updating. Are you still watching in black & white?
that`s a horrible, spiteful and unnecessary thing to do. "shaming" someone`s entire family for one of their member`s actions is disgusting and massively destructive.
I would have thought at 23 years old these two had left the school playground days behind them. Obviously not.
Uh-huh.
I aren't blind so no.
This country is to PC and its destroying our country. Us as British citizens should be entitled to say what we like unfortunately there's those who get offended quite easily over the tiniest comments I pity them.
Oh, okay then. You sound like the regular Daily Mail reading knuckle dragging caveman who really should realize what year it is.
You can't even spell embarrassment, how embarrassing is that?
The irony of you saying this is is that, if I were to post a tirade in your direction regarding your quite frankly ludicrous attitude you'd be hitting the report button like there's no tomorrow.
Hypocrite.