Well if most retailers are not botherd, and if most people dont care, then not much point in changing the law then really
if you read this thread you would see there are a number of good points as to why the law should be changed, such as a benefit to the economy and increased jobs and work for staff who in turn will have increased income
, as it seems most people are happy as it is. I am sure if it was effecting their profits they would be shouting their heads off about it.
businesses don't tend to shout their heads off. but if you follow the news you will see even recent articles from retailers asking for the law to be scrapped
The government dont seem to think its there is alot of benefit to the economy and increase jobs and hours available to staff or they would be doing this, as this is part of their job.
what source do you have to back up that statement?
I doubt very much if rescinding these laws would benefit the economy and increase jobs - shops would just change their rota's accordingly
wrong. this was mentioned previously on the thread. stores aim to run as efficiently as possible, at least big stores do, of the type affected by the law. stores will not have more staff than necessary working at any time. therefore there is no surplus of staff they can move to work different hours. they would need to offer additional hours of work to either new or existing staff to cover the extra hours required to open longer
and more people would feel pressurized to work sundays or there'd be an increase in the use of self service checkouts
this was also discussed before on this thread. whilst people can be asked to work above their contractual hours, they don't need to accept them, plus the working time regulations imposes restrictions on working times. as there are millions of people right now out of work and looking for work, why would an employer try to persuade someone who doesn't want to work when they can engage someone who is ready, willing and able to work instead?
if you read this thread you would see there are a number of good points as to why the law should be changed, such as a benefit to the economy and increased jobs and work for staff who in turn will have increased income
businesses don't tend to shout their heads off. but if you follow the news you will see even recent articles from retailers asking for the law to be scrapped
what source do you have to back up that statement?
Well i am sure the government departments, will have looked into this and DC and G O will have talked and looked into this as a idea as that is thier job but saying there was a statement from a government department say, The Department for Business said there were no current plans for a relaxation of the regulations. the powers that be dont seem to see the benefits that you say there would be,
What is your problem in maintaining the status quo? We have some of the most relaxed trading laws in Europe.
Lovely and quite on the roads sunday around my way heading off to work myself i support the stays quo as it is now.
Commerce should not rule every aspect of our life a day or two when shops above a certain footage close harms nobody,nobody starved as far as i am aware.;-)
that article is from 2 years ago. also it was pointed out earlier in the thread that running a trial during an abnormal time such as the Olympics is not going to give good results
Lovely and quite on the roads sunday around my way heading off to work myself i support the stays quo as it is now.
Commerce should not rule every aspect of our life a day or two when shops above a certain footage close harms nobody,nobody starved as far as i am aware.;-)
it's already been pointed out on this thread the harm to the economy and jobs and peoples personal incomes that this law causes
it's already been pointed out on this thread the harm to the economy and jobs and peoples personal incomes that this law causes
Has the government said its harming the economy and jobs to have this law in place, as it is something that you would expect the government to say and deal with
Thats not been proved however just like my view its only opinions.
People have only so much cash to spend they would only spread the cash out over different shopping hours not necessarily supporting a economic boost.
wrong. this has been explained before on this thread. not everyone is skint
Anyway as i have said my opinion is a couple of days a year where the large supermarkets ect close is nice on the roads and peaceful.
2 days a year? I'm sure there are a couple of days a year when this happens, such as new years day and xmas day. that has nothing to do with the sunday trading law though
Commerce gets enough shopping hours
does it? how so?
as it is commerce cannot and should not rule every aspect of our lives.
Yes it was on the link from the grocer, which you commented on earlier.
But like anything with polls, figures will be obtained to support whichever particular side of the coin you are on.
well there were two polls showing most people were in favour of the law being scrapped as opposed to one showing otherwise. I guess if the polls don't show what you want you would make a negative statement against polls
You could say the same for any place were people work.
yes you could. and has been pointed out numerous times now, every other workplace apart from retail over 3,000 square foot is not affected by the law. so if you did say that it wouldn't make any sense
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The fact you have so flippantly misrepresent the argument shows that you can not address the points actually made.
if you read this thread you would see there are a number of good points as to why the law should be changed, such as a benefit to the economy and increased jobs and work for staff who in turn will have increased income
businesses don't tend to shout their heads off. but if you follow the news you will see even recent articles from retailers asking for the law to be scrapped
what source do you have to back up that statement?
wrong. this was mentioned previously on the thread. stores aim to run as efficiently as possible, at least big stores do, of the type affected by the law. stores will not have more staff than necessary working at any time. therefore there is no surplus of staff they can move to work different hours. they would need to offer additional hours of work to either new or existing staff to cover the extra hours required to open longer
this was also discussed before on this thread. whilst people can be asked to work above their contractual hours, they don't need to accept them, plus the working time regulations imposes restrictions on working times. as there are millions of people right now out of work and looking for work, why would an employer try to persuade someone who doesn't want to work when they can engage someone who is ready, willing and able to work instead?
no it's not
so only about a fifth to a third of shoppers are against the law being relaxed and the majority support the law being scrapped
Quite.
Well i am sure the government departments, will have looked into this and DC and G O will have talked and looked into this as a idea as that is thier job but saying there was a statement from a government department say, The Department for Business said there were no current plans for a relaxation of the regulations. the powers that be dont seem to see the benefits that you say there would be,
See you miss out the other bits that don't support your agenda, to give an equal context to the discussion:-
The Association of convenience stores also carried out a poll and claimed 77% of shoppers favoured the existing rule.
Also Him! which carried out the poll said "In a World of 24-hour shopping, perhaps it's a good thing to keep some traditions alive".
Now you may not agree with them, but at least it gives equal opinion.
It looks like the Union and the Labour Party are against any changes
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/mar/18/union-sunday-trading-olympics
First major poll. published by The Grocer the retail industry newspaper.
Do we know what questions were asked? When, where, who by?
Lovely and quite on the roads sunday around my way heading off to work myself i support the stays quo as it is now.
Commerce should not rule every aspect of our life a day or two when shops above a certain footage close harms nobody,nobody starved as far as i am aware.;-)
do you have a link to this?
that's only an opinion however
that article is from 2 years ago. also it was pointed out earlier in the thread that running a trial during an abnormal time such as the Olympics is not going to give good results
it's already been pointed out on this thread the harm to the economy and jobs and peoples personal incomes that this law causes
Thats not been proved however just like my view its only opinions.
People have only so much cash to spend they would only spread the cash out over different shopping hours not necessarily supporting a economic boost.
Anyway as i have said my opinion is a couple of days a year where the large supermarkets ect close is nice on the roads and peaceful.
Commerce gets enough shopping hours as it is commerce cannot and should not rule every aspect of our lives.
Has the government said its harming the economy and jobs to have this law in place, as it is something that you would expect the government to say and deal with
Whose personal income is harmed by shops closing after 6 hours?
Must be shareholders in Tesco's ;-)
Yes it was on the link from the grocer, which you commented on earlier.
But like anything with polls, figures will be obtained to support whichever particular side of the coin you are on.
wrong. this has been explained before on this thread. not everyone is skint
2 days a year? I'm sure there are a couple of days a year when this happens, such as new years day and xmas day. that has nothing to do with the sunday trading law though
does it? how so?
it doesn't though
I don't know. possibly. who knows what could be said by a large number of people
is it? remember this was explained earlier before on this thread
the staff who don't get paid when stores are closed. this was explained previously on this thread
well there were two polls showing most people were in favour of the law being scrapped as opposed to one showing otherwise. I guess if the polls don't show what you want you would make a negative statement against polls
yes you could. and has been pointed out numerous times now, every other workplace apart from retail over 3,000 square foot is not affected by the law. so if you did say that it wouldn't make any sense