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Benefits Street: C4 6th Jan 9pm

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    Dare_AllanDare_Allan Posts: 2,328
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    proper unemployment, what are you on about, have never seen any potato picking vacancies

    And this is YOUR problem.

    I've worked casual labour jobs since I was 14. It works like this. You find out where to get hired on a day rate, you go there, you get hired on a day rate, you go home with cash YOU earned and you didn't steal off taxpayers.
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    TardisSteveTardisSteve Posts: 8,077
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    Dare_Allan wrote: »
    How the hell are they not criminals? They get given MY money they didn't earn it and I didn't choose to give them it. That is theft.

    If they want to stop being criminals they need to stop stealing my money and go out and work.

    so you think death threats are acceptable
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    TardisSteveTardisSteve Posts: 8,077
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    Dare_Allan wrote: »
    And this is YOUR problem.

    I've worked casual labour jobs since I was 14. It works like this. You find out where to get hired on a day rate, you go there, you get hired on a day rate, you go home with cash YOU earned and you didn't steal off taxpayers.

    im not steeling off anyone
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    tghe-retfordtghe-retford Posts: 26,449
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    it is disgusting, those people making the threats shout be found and prosecuted
    I think I just had someone defend them on Twitter who sees no problem with benefit claimants, nay the Participants of the show being sent said threats. That is scary and the producers of the show need to be made accountable as much as those making threats of death and violence.
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    koantemplationkoantemplation Posts: 101,293
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    im not steeling off anyone

    No but the people working cash in hand are.
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    TalbertTalbert Posts: 1,242
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    They are criminals

    Taking drugs
    Growing drugs
    Buying drugs

    Fiddling the benefits system
    Stealing G Star Jackets
    Impersonating a Big Issue Sales man (maybe not criminal but honestly, what a lowlife)
    Buying stolen goods
    Handling stolen goods

    Neglecting children
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    Dare_AllanDare_Allan Posts: 2,328
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    Talbert wrote: »
    If the government created industry and created millions of new jobs in this country, and if these jobs only paid £6.31 an hour would the people in this programme take them?

    It is NOT UP TO THE GOVERNMENT to get you off your lazy arse. You could go into business for yourself, start your own company, employ some people.

    Oh wait your too lazy. Sorry, Time your benefits stopped.
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    TalbertTalbert Posts: 1,242
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    Dare_Allan wrote: »
    And this is YOUR problem.

    I've worked casual labour jobs since I was 14. It works like this. You find out where to get hired on a day rate, you go there, you get hired on a day rate, you go home with cash YOU earned and you didn't steal off taxpayers.


    There needs to be more and more work like this available, I think it would suit a lot of the unemployed.
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    TardisSteveTardisSteve Posts: 8,077
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    Talbert wrote: »
    They are criminals


    Neglecting children

    what neglected children, no actual proof they were being neglected
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    Dare_AllanDare_Allan Posts: 2,328
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    Both probably, to a greater cost to the taxpayer. Short-sighted populist electioneering by Osborne where even Iain Duncan Smith is criticising him!

    Norway the socialist paradise takes more children into care every year than the United Kingdom does. Despite having 5m people compared to 65m in the UK. They take MORE children into care.
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    oathyoathy Posts: 32,647
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    Dare_Allan wrote: »
    And this is YOUR problem.

    I've worked casual labour jobs since I was 14. It works like this. You find out where to get hired on a day rate, you go there, you get hired on a day rate, you go home with cash YOU earned and you didn't steal off taxpayers.

    I really think you need the politics forum because so far you have said nothing about any issued raised by the production values of this TV programme. Its all been the bigger issue of the welfare system and what you deem to be the abuse and failure by everyone using it.

    the acceptance that everything shown was correct is just so depressing, Lets hope C4 do a show about all the big firms out there who don't bother paying Billions in Tax here because they are so creative Tax avoidance just wont supply the fodder this show did.
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    TardisSteveTardisSteve Posts: 8,077
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    Dare_Allan wrote: »
    It is NOT UP TO THE GOVERNMENT to get you off your lazy arse. You could go into business for yourself, start your own company, employ some people.

    Oh wait your too lazy. Sorry, Time your benefits stopped.

    yes because it is that easy, isnt it , you only need, money, an idea and somewhere to operate from, money being the biggest problem
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    TalbertTalbert Posts: 1,242
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    Dare_Allan wrote: »
    It is NOT UP TO THE GOVERNMENT to get you off your lazy arse. You could go into business for yourself, start your own company, employ some people.

    Oh wait your too lazy. Sorry, Time your benefits stopped.


    Woooooooooo hold up


    I have two jobs


    And I agree with everything you say...

    **** it, I think most of these people should be sent to labour camps and made to work for free until they pay back every single penny they have stolen from the tax payer.
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    Dare_AllanDare_Allan Posts: 2,328
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    i suffer from a mental illness and anxiety, i also help my father care for my mother who has bipolar (have been helping for a number of years) now last year i tried to get work, i got refereed to a job agency who help people with disabilities get back into work, i went for job screenings, had a job interview in which i tried my best but i totally fell to pieces in (didn't get it unfortunately, i was gutted believe me) after a while they stopped bothering to help me, i am still trying find a small job, thing is i want to work, (i don't give a rodents rectum if you bleieve me or not) i envy people who work, i don't want to be on benefits for the rest of my life i have recently started to do a bit of voluntary work to help get something on my CV

    I started typing a very long answer, especially concerning the amount of time I spend caring from my father and mother who are separated. But it seems worthless.

    You don't want to work, nothing will satisfy you. Other than the money you take from me.
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    TardisSteveTardisSteve Posts: 8,077
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    oathy wrote: »
    I really think you need the politics forum because so far you have said nothing about any issued raised by the production values of this TV programme. Its all been the bigger issue of the welfare system and what you deem to be the abuse and failure by everyone using it.

    yeah the politics forum is full of right wing out of touch with reality fools, he will fit in well there
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    koantemplationkoantemplation Posts: 101,293
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    Talbert wrote: »
    Woooooooooo hold up


    I have two jobs


    And I agree with everything you say...

    **** it, I think most of these people should be sent to labour camps and made to work for free until they pay back every single penny they have stolen from the tax payer.

    Yes I agree, company owners who haven't paid tax they owe should be sent to labour camps too.

    Also people who work cash in hand and avoid paying tax.
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    Dare_AllanDare_Allan Posts: 2,328
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    im not steeling off anyone

    You stated earlier you take my money. I don't agree to you having my money - that is theft.
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    Dare_AllanDare_Allan Posts: 2,328
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    Talbert wrote: »
    There needs to be more and more work like this available, I think it would suit a lot of the unemployed.

    There is lots and lots of this work available. But if you spend your day on a deckchair outside your house in James whatever Street, you wont find it.

    If you get paid more money than it costs to travel to the work, you wont find it.

    If you have so much money coming in for free cos of all the kids you spurt out, you wont find it.

    Its a really simple reality, drastically reduce benefits, more people work.
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    Dare_AllanDare_Allan Posts: 2,328
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    what neglected children, no actual proof they were being neglected

    In a genuinely socialist country like Norway or Sweden it wouldnt matter. The children would probably be taken into care till one of the parents was working.

    That's how Scandinavia works.
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    TalbertTalbert Posts: 1,242
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    Yes I agree, company owners who haven't paid tax they owe should be sent to labour camps too.

    Also people who work cash in hand and avoid paying tax.


    Yes so Jimmy Carr will present BENEFIT TAX DODGING LABOUR CAMP on Channel 4 next summer

    Black and White Dee will be taking part as will the CEO' s of both Starbucks and Amazon.

    Plus 50p man as I doubt he's doing a tax return on those 50 pences.
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    TardisSteveTardisSteve Posts: 8,077
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    Dare_Allan wrote: »
    You stated earlier you take my money. I don't agree to you having my money - that is theft.

    i receive ESA, as i have said i am trying my best to get off it,i have never even met you (i hope i never have the misfortune to) i have never come up to you and mugged you, theft. benefits is not theft you fool
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    Dare_AllanDare_Allan Posts: 2,328
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    oathy wrote: »
    I really think you need the politics forum because so far you have said nothing about any issued raised by the production values of this TV programme. Its all been the bigger issue of the welfare system and what you deem to be the abuse and failure by everyone using it.

    the acceptance that everything shown was correct is just so depressing, Lets hope C4 do a show about all the big firms out there who don't bother paying Billions in Tax here because they are so creative Tax avoidance just wont supply the fodder this show did.

    Nonsense there has been non stop criticism of the PRODUCTION values of this programmed because it did not portray benefit thieves in a positive light.

    So it is very appropriate that we argue that benefit theft is not acceptable to those who think for some nonsense reason this was staged and not the reality of benefits theft.
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    TardisSteveTardisSteve Posts: 8,077
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    Dare_Allan wrote: »
    Its a really simple reality, drastically reduce benefits, more people work.

    if you say so :kitty:
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    Dare_AllanDare_Allan Posts: 2,328
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    Yes I agree, company owners who haven't paid tax they owe should be sent to labour camps too.

    Also people who work cash in hand and avoid paying tax.

    Company owners create employment. They shouldn't pay ANY tax.
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    TardisSteveTardisSteve Posts: 8,077
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    Dare_Allan wrote: »
    Nonsense there has been non stop criticism of the PRODUCTION values of this programmed because it did not portray benefit thieves in a positive light.

    So it is very appropriate that we argue that benefit theft is not acceptable to those who think for some nonsense reason this was staged and not the reality of benefits theft.

    all this trash channel want to cause is outrage, never will show the genuine claimants, the carers etc because they will not cause the same level of upset amoung the people who watch it, im sure you will always find someone to judge though, people like you always do
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