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Government policies push 200,000 children into poverty

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    nanscombenanscombe Posts: 16,588
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    If making sure kids have got food in their bellies is so important just what are the food providers, ie those that ultimately pocket the money, doing to help?

    Are they setting up nationwide campaigns to ensure that all school children at least have breakfast?

    Are they pledging to supply bulk quantities of food to schools at wholesale prices, or even more radical ... at a loss?


    And we are told that the pay levels of some supermarket employees are so low they have to rely on yet more money from the Government, in the form of tax credits, to top up their wages.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 14,922
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    nanscombe wrote: »
    If making sure kids have got food in their bellies is so important just what are the food providers, ie those that ultimately pocket the money, doing to help?

    Are they setting up nationwide campaigns to ensure that all school children at least have breakfast?

    Are they pledging to supply bulk quantities of food to schools at wholesale prices, or even more radical ... at a loss?


    And we are told that the pay levels of some supermarket employees are so low they have to rely on yet more money from the Government, in the form of tax credits, to top up their wages.

    Well it seems a well known pizza company bunged Gove a large cheque and surprisingly, he has allowed academy schools to opt out of the healthy eating guidelines for schools and they now sell junk food on their premises...
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    nanscombenanscombe Posts: 16,588
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    I bet if a school canteen dared to lay on a large batch of porridge, instead of expensive individual portions of sugar laden designer cereal, for pupils the papers would be full of comparisons to Oliver Twist.

    Even though it was proper porridge and not gruel.
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    LkjhLkjh Posts: 333
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    How about a shorter life expectancy, more health problems, inferior health care, greater risk of being a victim of crime, inferior education, fewer prospects and aspirations.
    Is that enough to be going on with, or wouldn't you personally mind being shafted from birth?

    And these things are caused by the same reasons as the poverty.

    Parents who neglect their children.
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    queseraseraqueserasera Posts: 2,999
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    WindWalker wrote: »
    Well it seems a well known pizza company bunged Gove a large cheque and surprisingly, he has allowed academy schools to opt out of the healthy eating guidelines for schools and they now sell junk food on their premises...

    They did no such thing.

    A Pizza company did give a donation to his constituency association though.

    It is important to get these little details right !!!!!!!

    As for not making academy schools follow healty eating guidelines well that is just crazy IMO - donation or no donation
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    Judge MentalJudge Mental Posts: 18,593
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    They did no such thing.

    A Pizza company did give a donation to his constituency association though.

    It is important to get these little details right !!!!!!!

    As for not making academy schools follow healty eating guidelines well that is just crazy IMO - donation or no donation

    even crazier when you consider that the guidelines have been left in place for non Academies. This suggests that some children's health is more important than others.
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    nanscombenanscombe Posts: 16,588
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    Do they (whoever they are) have control over the non-academies but not the academies?

    That might also explain the difference.


    Jamie Oliver warns Michael Gove on academy school meals
    He said he was "totally mystified" that academies were allowed to determine what food should be on offer, while state schools follow strict rules.
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    Academies are semi-independent schools so do not have to abide by regulations introduced in 2008 which set out strict nutritional guidelines for school food.
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    Mr Gove wrote to Jamie Oliver about the chef's concerns on school meals at academies last August.

    He wrote: "We have no reason to believe that academies will not provide healthy, balanced meals that meet the current nutritional standards.

    "As part of the broader freedoms available to academies, I trust the professionals to act in the best interests of their pupils."


    Aha! The State only enforcing rules on schools which they run.
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    gemma-the-huskygemma-the-husky Posts: 18,116
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    the whole premise of this is silly

    200,000 MORE children in poverty?

    you would be hard pressed to find 200,000 in TOTAL in poverty.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,064
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    swaydog wrote: »
    Wouldn't that be because of the DWP processing times, rather than gov policy.
    So your son got free food and eventually got all his money backdated.
    So he was actually better off for using the food bank.
    DWP payments took time under Labour too, but they told the DWP not to inform the claimants about the existance of the food banks.You had to apply for a crisis loan, which was then deducted from your benefits.

    It is quite unbelievable how some people can separate results from policy. Government policy 'to make everything subject to countless checks and admin systems' is the underlying cause of the results we (my son) experienced. yoe it is the 'fulfilment times' that ultimately caused the problem but my son has been on benefitfor some months and receiving regular payments. But the Christmas payment was delayed by 7 days because of a Government created and controlled organisation failing to do the job they are paid for. It is true that he 'eventually' received his money. but by them other things had to be paid for (this is how it is living on low income) so we (although we didn't expect it) never got our money back. What would happen to a family in a similar situation who didn't have a family to rely on?
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    gummy mummygummy mummy Posts: 26,600
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    the whole premise of this is silly

    200,000 MORE children in poverty?

    you would be hard pressed to find 200,000 in TOTAL in poverty.

    Not according to these two reports




    .one says there were 2.3 million children living in poverty in the UK in 2010/11

    http://www.jrf.org.uk/work/workarea/child-poverty

    the other says there were an estimated 3.5 million children living in poverty in 2012 and that figure is expected to soar in the coming years.


    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:Rpvcekl1yfIJ:www.savethechildren.org.uk/sites/default/files/documents/child_poverty_2012.pdf+&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESh8bzJD6yJ22-GL_vHRAbc4KOYDI2GauT3vdDcUlEqnij-f5s2EvhRJclynxMB6mIO0rpgfXzfdBH8I-ua8CNmykxD7gxYT_nGIOGuNdGeJ2rdZqhzltChxYrsVlMuMyq8HWWaB&sig=AHIEtbSKKMhQQG7pP_w_6WUbq6RjbAappw


    So child poverty seems to be rising. :(
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