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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 34
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    Something additional you might consider is one of those Pong ipad electric security cases. Over the summer the grandparents who love to spoil the kids in the family purchased a few electric devices. The kids love them, and do well with the devices.

    I was thinking for the holidays of buying a few Pong cases to go along with the devices. I learned about them here, toward the end of the article:

    "My Healthy Holiday Gift Guide"

    http://www.annlouise.com/blog/2012/12/14/my-healthy-holiday-gift-guide/
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 304
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    Asda Direct were advertising Samsung Galaxy Tabs for £99 yesterday, that seems like a good buy.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,178
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    Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 from Asda for £99. :D

    End of thread.
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    John259John259 Posts: 28,576
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    Zmiler7 wrote: »
    Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 from Asda for £99. :D

    End of thread.
    Good news: 7" screen.
    Bad news: out of stock

    Thread resumes :)
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    Miss XYZMiss XYZ Posts: 14,023
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    OP, Tesco are doing Clubcard Boost at the moment so if you have any vouchers you can double them up and use them to buy the hudl. I just saw it on the website for £119, so £60 in clubcard vouchers will pay for it.
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    TWSTWS Posts: 9,307
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    No advice op but interested in the thread as am looking to get a tablet for my son for Christmas, he has purloined nannies Ipad for what seems like forever and is time to give it back, he will be 6 in January, he can used it better than me and takes really good care of his things.

    My step dad think the hudl maybe our best bet but still looking around, son wants a 3ds (and nannies ipad) but think this is the better option
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    Xela MXela M Posts: 4,710
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    Ber wrote: »
    I'm sure I will.

    Just like my parents noticed the effect technology had on me when I was a teenager, and their parents before them.

    I won't ask how old you are, but I'm 28 and there was no Internet when I was a child. Therefore my upbringing was very different to the screen-attached children I see nowadays.
    bazaar1 wrote: »
    I'd go iPod smaller and cheaper than iPads but great parental controls, large selection of apps and she can watch films etc on it easily.

    And it's not too big to take places to keep her quite.

    I spent my teen years reading consistently, not text books but trash like point horrors etc and I didn't do a levels at all. So can the written word be blamed? No.

    Similarly I know boys that are football obsessed, age 7/8 they play until it's dark then go home and play fantasy football, or read footie comics.

    It's boys (kids in general, but boys especially) - they get obsessions, be it games,tv, sports, - every parent of a teenager will say that they often talk to a brick wall because the kid is concentrating on something else.

    I'd rather my boy was at home playing minecraft or similar hand anderingt he streets causing trouble. I know where he is, I know what he's doing, when he gets to teen years I'll know he's not drinking, smoking , etc (presuming he's tablet obsessed as presumed by some posters)

    bazaar1, I must disagree with you on this occasion. A football-obsession cannot be compared to a PC/tablet/ipad-obsession. Team sports teach infinitely more positive skills than computers! Social interaction for one and I would prefer my kid to be playing sports outside than be stuck behind a screen at home.
    You don't know much about causality do you?

    I do. My brother is quite intelligent and was predicted much higher grades than he obtained because he didn't study (some crazy online game was more important).
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    John259John259 Posts: 28,576
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    Xela M wrote: »
    I'm 28 and there was no Internet when I was a child. Therefore my upbringing was very different to the screen-attached children I see nowadays.
    There were plenty of home computers and video games consoles available though.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,145
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    Xela M wrote: »
    I won't ask how old you are, but I'm 28 and there was no Internet when I was a child. Therefore my upbringing was very different to the screen-attached children I see nowadays.



    bazaar1, I must disagree with you on this occasion. A football-obsession cannot be compared to a PC/tablet/ipad-obsession. Team sports teach infinitely more positive skills than computers! Social interaction for one and I would prefer my kid to be playing sports outside than be stuck behind a screen at home.



    I do. My brother is quite intelligent and was predicted much higher grades than he obtained because he didn't study (some crazy online game was more important).

    We can agree to disagree, I'm not saying football is bad but its just as obsessive as anything else, and unfortunately there is a yob culture around football in the UK that I'd not want my son involved in (More fans than anything). An obsession is an obsession, regardless of what its focus is.

    Just look at the states and this culture of pushing sports stars through school, then getting them scholarships regardless of grades, its more important they score that winning touchdown/homerun/etc than get a b on maths.
    John259 wrote: »
    There were plenty of home computers and video games consoles available though.

    yes quite, I'm 31 and I had sega mega drives, antari's etc - and tv was just as much of a distraction as computers are these days.
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    bobcarbobcar Posts: 19,424
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    Xela M wrote: »
    I won't ask how old you are, but I'm 28 and there was no Internet when I was a child. Therefore my upbringing was very different to the screen-attached children I see nowadays.

    There's nothing wrong in principle in children having tablets indeed it is very important that they do learn the new technology and become very proficient in it.

    It only becomes a problem when they have too much of it and it is used as a baby sitter much like the TV can. Limit the kids to say an hour a day depending on age and it is a positive thing.
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    TWSTWS Posts: 9,307
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    Xela M wrote: »
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    bazaar1, I must disagree with you on this occasion. A football-obsession cannot be compared to a PC/tablet/ipad-obsession. Team sports teach infinitely more positive skills than computers! Social interaction for one and I would prefer my kid to be playing sports outside than be stuck behind a screen at home.



    I do. My brother is quite intelligent and was predicted much higher grades than he obtained because he didn't study (some crazy online game was more important).

    I was predicted better grades than I got I didn't study as I went out smoking, drinking and chasing boys...either the kids will study or they wont.

    My kids go swimming, play football,l go to the park and do kenpo karate that does not stop them from having games consoles and wanting to play them all evening but its my job to as a parent to moderate such things at a young age
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    shmiskshmisk Posts: 7,963
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    bobcar wrote: »
    There's nothing wrong in principle in children having tablets indeed it is very important that they do learn the new technology and become very proficient in it.

    It only becomes a problem when they have too much of it and it is used as a baby sitter much like the TV can. Limit the kids to say an hour a day depending on age and it is a positive thing.

    I often see this "babysitter" thing said

    In my experience my son needs help and supervision with computers tablets etc- it is possible for kids to use these things WITH their parents

    The babysitter claim really annoys me!
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    BerBer Posts: 24,562
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    Xela M wrote: »
    I won't ask how old you are, but I'm 28 and there was no Internet when I was a child. Therefore my upbringing was very different to the screen-attached children I see nowadays.

    I'm 36 and had a Vic 20 in the early 80's, then a Nintendo, Sega Megadrive and Gameboy. I even remember the pong console you hooked up to the TV in the very early 80's.

    I also had a Major Morgan and Speak'n'Spell when I was 5/6 as well.

    The difference between my parents and yours seems to be that our use of these technologies were limited and monitored. Things like homework, chores, walking the dog, etc. had to be done before I was allowed to use them. I would never have been allowed to be holed up in my room on the Nintendo for hours on end like your brother was, nor would the vast majority of parents on this thread and in general allow it either.
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    Little NellLittle Nell Posts: 1,115
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    I'm in my sixties so can safely claim that the internet wasn't around when I was a child. And I think that children should use tablets etc - that was then and this is now.

    You can't possibly KNOW that your brother underachieved because of technology. If it hadn't been that it might well have been something else. To take it to its logical conclusion, you'd have to say that if he'd been brought up when I was, with no internet to distract him, he'd have got his predicted grades.
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    Xela MXela M Posts: 4,710
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    Ber wrote: »
    I'm 36 and had a Vic 20 in the early 80's, then a Nintendo, Sega Megadrive and Gameboy. I even remember the pong console you hooked up to the TV in the very early 80's.

    I also had a Major Morgan and Speak'n'Spell when I was 5/6 as well.

    The difference between my parents and yours seems to be that our use of these technologies were limited and monitored. Things like homework, chores, walking the dog, etc. had to be done before I was allowed to use them. I would never have been allowed to be holed up in my room on the Nintendo for hours on end like your brother was, nor would the vast majority of parents on this thread and in general allow it either.

    I don't think it's nice for you to criticise my parents, especially given the fact that you know nothing about them. Your assessment of their parenting could not be further from the truth.

    Anyway, people are entitled to bring their children up anyway they want to. We don't have to agree just because I don't think a toddler should be given an ipad/tablet etc. If everyone on this thread thinks it's a great idea to hook their children to computer games early - good for them. I just disagree.
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    BerBer Posts: 24,562
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    Xela M wrote: »
    I don't think it's nice for you to criticise my parents, especially given the fact that you know nothing about them. Your assessment of their parenting could not be further from the truth.

    Anyway, people are entitled to bring their children up anyway they want to. We don't have to agree just because I don't think a toddler should be given an ipad/tablet etc. If everyone on this thread thinks it's a great idea to hook their children to computer games early - good for them. I just disagree.

    You brought your parents and brother into it by using them as an example of the 'evils' of letting kids use technology, and it is a fact that it is up to the parents to control and monitor how and when their children use it and ensure it doesn't impact on things like their schoolwork.
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    Xela M wrote: »
    I don't think it's nice for you to criticise my parents, especially given the fact that you know nothing about them. Your assessment of their parenting could not be further from the truth.

    Anyway, people are entitled to bring their children up anyway they want to. We don't have to agree just because I don't think a toddler should be given an ipad/tablet etc. If everyone on this thread thinks it's a great idea to hook their children to computer games early - good for them. I just disagree.

    It's a fair point though. The problem arises when parental control is not exerted. Used in the right environment, tablets are a great aid to children's education. However if they are allowed to use them for hours on end, at the cost of everything else due to lack of parental parameters (as it seems your brother was) this is when the problem occurs.
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    Xela MXela M Posts: 4,710
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    Good luck trying to impose parental controls on an 18-year-old!
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    BerBer Posts: 24,562
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    Xela M wrote: »
    Good luck trying to impose parental controls on an 18-year-old!

    Some didn't have any computer games until he turned18 then :rolleyes:
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    Little NellLittle Nell Posts: 1,115
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    Xela M wrote: »
    Good luck trying to impose parental controls on an 18-year-old!

    And your point is?
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    my niece and nephew share an ipad and to be honest, the older one has learned to swear from using the ipad, simply by watching you tube videos of thomas the tank and peppa pig, they look like normal cartoons but people have dubbed over the sound with disgusting language, no warning at all that they are not suitable for children.

    Im not saying they are bad for children but i was shocked how well they can work it and go in and out of all sorts and the youngest cant even hold a pencil correctly yet.

    They need to be supervised closely.
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    Tackomacko wrote: »
    my niece and nephew share an ipad and to be honest, the older one has learned to swear from using the ipad, simply by watching you tube videos of thomas the tank and peppa pig, they look like normal cartoons but people have dubbed over the sound with disgusting language, no warning at all that they are not suitable for children.

    Im not saying they are bad for children but i was shocked how well they can work it and go in and out of all sorts and the youngest cant even hold a pencil correctly yet.

    They need to be supervised closely.
    The simple remedy to that would be to turn off the internet access on the tablet and install a password that means the adult can connect and check any content before letting the kid use it.
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    Ber wrote: »
    The simple remedy to that would be to turn off the internet access on the tablet and install a password that means the adult can connect and check any content before letting the kid use it.

    which is why i said they need to be supervised .....
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    BerBer Posts: 24,562
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    Tackomacko wrote: »
    youtube doesnt work without the internet.

    I know... So no chance of a kid being able to watch unsuitable content .
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    LushnessLushness Posts: 38,177
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    We got my eldest two innotabs... Absoutley Rubbish, replaced them with iPod touch and they are both as happy as larry with them :-)

    They have Griffiths survivor cases on them
    Too! They are a must!

    My son looked at this for about 5 minutes and put it down, never to be picked up again. :o

    I gave him my old iPad and he looks after it very well. I'll upgrade it for him at some point probably not at Christmas but in the new year.

    OP I echo the opinion of the Hudl, it looks very good, great reviews!
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