I received a warning a few months ago for missing an appointment due roadworks holding up the traffic. The adviser said I should've left earlier. I wanted to say that I don't control when the buses arrive and I wasn't psychic enough to know that there were roadworks!
Its infuriating I know but just imagine how many 1000s of times they have heard that when the majority of occasions its BS. It must be hard to tell so the easiest option is to have the same response for everyone. If you think about it, its the only fair way to approach it!
If only the world would stop while you looked for a job, eh!
If you haven't got enough time to spend a few minutes looking for a job every day, how are you going to cope when you eventually find a job and are out at work for up to 8 hours every day?
I think the op was looking every day, However he was only updating his UJM record weekly. I personally do not put down on my UJM record any jobs I have looked for only actual applications. When I go through UJM though it puts all sorts of random rubbish in my jobsearch record that bears little resembelence to the amount of searches I have done through their system.
If you haven't got enough time to spend a few minutes looking for a job every day, how are you going to cope when you eventually find a job and are out at work for up to 8 hours every day?
I would never suggest anyone unemployed shouldn't look each day at all, I do think its a bit unfair though when someone implies with a remark that suggests being unemployed means that you sit around doing very little I fill my day with lots of things to do otherwise I would go mad. No doubt many others are the same! Personally I spend at least an hour each day looking, any less and you aren't really looking!
I received a warning a few months ago for missing an appointment due roadworks holding up the traffic. The adviser said I should've left earlier. I wanted to say that I don't control when the buses arrive and I wasn't psychic enough to know that there were roadworks!
those of us who work have to take this kind of thing into consideration every single day as will you when you finally get a job!
Alot of people at the job centre can be full of power crazy staff behind desks but the best way to approach them is to be polite and agree with everything they say even though you may not.
If they moan about the number of jobs you have applied for then apply for even more, if your desperate for a job you will be atleast averaging out 7applications per week which will equate to one a day. From what my friends tell me there is something like a 3jobs per week criteria so if you apply for more than that they should leave you, there used to people who dont apply for any so when they meet people who are trying they are alot nicer.
I've recently been made redundant and I'm not at all confident of getting another job because I have a 'historic' criminal conviction.
In these times where there are 50 or more applicants for each vacancy, the first thing an employer will do is eliminate anyone honest enough to admit their past.
Do job centres take such issues into account I wonder?
It means you have the majority of your time to yourself. What do you think people in work do? We have to fit all the other things around our job - and it sucks.
Yes I know, I had a career for 26 years before being made redundant 7 months ago.
It means you have the majority of your time to yourself. What do you think people in work do? We have to fit all the other things around our job - and it sucks.
Yep and we have to set off in plenty of time to get to work on time too
Imagine if people went to the jobcentre , their GP, or shops and it wasn't open because staff were stuck in traffic, roadworks or held up due to snow. Just thought I would add that one in for readiness for next week:)
I've recently been made redundant and I'm not at all confident of getting another job because I have a 'historic' criminal conviction.
In these times where there are 50 or more applicants for each vacancy, the first thing an employer will do is eliminate anyone honest enough to admit their past.
Do job centres take such issues into account I wonder?
Jobcentres won't stop your money if you don't get a job, they will stop it if you don't apply for work and or do enough to look for work and give yourself the opportunity to find work. In that respect they don't have to take the issue you mention into account. However if you disclose it to the jobcentre you may get early access to some of their training courses or work programme
B******S they are. I've had to sign on twice in my life and thank god I'm sorted now. I really do feel sorry for anyone having to sign on. I was treated like a piece of filth. They are supposed to help you find a job, but they do sweet nothing. All they used to do to me was check my work book to make sure I had entered the required entries each week, and then they'd make me stand over at the computers for 5 minutes and would make me print out 5 jobs...they never even checked what jobs I was printing out ad half the time I would just print out any old crap to keep them happy as I only had 5 minutes and then they'd get rid of me for the next person. I always vowed that when I eventually got myself off job seekers, I would return to the job centre one day and utter words to my advisor that are so explicit she would be screeching at her desk. Once I got myself sorted, I forgot about it and got out of that mindset. It's a horrible place though with god awful people who work there.
imagine how many 1000s of times they have heard that when the majority of occasions its BS. It must be hard to tell so the easiest option is to have the same response for everyone
They're different because say an N15 from trafalgar square to Romford only goes that one straight route. No other day buses run that time, so if I lived by Dagenham asda, the nearest stop would be the robin hood or Martins corner which is really far away and the 145,287 or 173 which are the regular routes near asda don't start running until about five in the morning, so it's not the same at all.
Depends on where A to B is. Dagenham is very big and the night bus just runs through 10 stops (the number 5) daytime route and it is kind of on the edge of Dagenham. If someone lived a five elms it'll be great.
During the day a 145 bus can take you straight to Martins corner from asda but it is a long old walk back in the night especially when you have to walk past a massive park. I wouldn't even walk it to my house which is nearer and end up leaving dead early from London and catch a train home, which is annoying. I wish all day routes were night routes too but tfl won't pay for that.
If you disclose this to the job centre you should get specialised support (maybe after a period of time) eg help to be directed towards employers who will take on people with (historic) criminal records. Don't give up just because of that. You've had one job so there's no reason why you can't get another. If you've got a good track record of work then not all employers will discriminate. (Some have to by law eg don't apply to a school or anywhere to work with vulnerable adults.)
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Its infuriating I know but just imagine how many 1000s of times they have heard that when the majority of occasions its BS. It must be hard to tell so the easiest option is to have the same response for everyone. If you think about it, its the only fair way to approach it!
If you haven't got enough time to spend a few minutes looking for a job every day, how are you going to cope when you eventually find a job and are out at work for up to 8 hours every day?
I would never suggest anyone unemployed shouldn't look each day at all, I do think its a bit unfair though when someone implies with a remark that suggests being unemployed means that you sit around doing very little I fill my day with lots of things to do otherwise I would go mad. No doubt many others are the same! Personally I spend at least an hour each day looking, any less and you aren't really looking!
No you won't, coz I'm going to come round there and beat you with my walking stick! I'm 46:mad:
those of us who work have to take this kind of thing into consideration every single day as will you when you finally get a job!
If they moan about the number of jobs you have applied for then apply for even more, if your desperate for a job you will be atleast averaging out 7applications per week which will equate to one a day. From what my friends tell me there is something like a 3jobs per week criteria so if you apply for more than that they should leave you, there used to people who dont apply for any so when they meet people who are trying they are alot nicer.
In these times where there are 50 or more applicants for each vacancy, the first thing an employer will do is eliminate anyone honest enough to admit their past.
Do job centres take such issues into account I wonder?
Yes I know, I had a career for 26 years before being made redundant 7 months ago.
Yep and we have to set off in plenty of time to get to work on time too
Imagine if people went to the jobcentre , their GP, or shops and it wasn't open because staff were stuck in traffic, roadworks or held up due to snow. Just thought I would add that one in for readiness for next week:)
Jobcentres won't stop your money if you don't get a job, they will stop it if you don't apply for work and or do enough to look for work and give yourself the opportunity to find work. In that respect they don't have to take the issue you mention into account. However if you disclose it to the jobcentre you may get early access to some of their training courses or work programme
Public transport in London is 24/7
Fair point.
Night buses are different.
During the day a 145 bus can take you straight to Martins corner from asda but it is a long old walk back in the night especially when you have to walk past a massive park. I wouldn't even walk it to my house which is nearer and end up leaving dead early from London and catch a train home, which is annoying. I wish all day routes were night routes too but tfl won't pay for that.