I didnt say they see everything... which was Romeos point... but they see more than you and I do on a 45 min HL show.
if you cant conceded that... well.
True they do see more than 45 minutes a day but my point is some of Denise's worst behaviour has been when she has been alone with Michael. The other housemates don't see that but we do.
Perhaps he did, I agree and it was hard to watch. Unfortunately Denise is one of those people that talks too much and rarely listens even on loose women she talks over people. However, I can't say I dislike her I just had no idea how needy she was, her husband deserves a medal because living with those kinds of insecurities must be so difficult.
I just don't understand why she keeps harranging him if he doesn't like her why doesn't she just leave him you can't please everyone in life.
True they do see more than 45 minutes a day but my point is some of Denise's worst behaviour has been when she has been alone with Michael. The other housemates don't see that but we do.
Exactly, and if someone had made such attempts to make me look bad with their ridiculous fantasies, I would see that as dangerous behaviour and out them as bonkers to clear my name as well. Just because people are nutters, you don't allow them to make up bollocks about you, it's not on.
Edit, she's just said on BBOTS she was not drunk when she got her tits out for the lads, classic example of someone trying to justify drunken behaviour:rolleyes:
No hes not, shes a married woman chasing after him, how does her husband feel watching her running after another man. Shes making herself look like a cheap t*amp.
Incidentally, "emotionally disturbed" is nowhere near as bad as "mentally disturbed"....it simply means someone who is erratic and prone to mood swings.
Exactly, and if someone had made such attempts to make me look bad with their ridiculous fantasies, I would see that as dangerous behaviour and out them as bonkers to clear my name as well. Just because people are nutters, you don't allow them to make up bollocks about you, it's not on.
Edit, she's just said on BBOTS she was not drunk when she got her tits out for the lads, classic example of someone trying to justify drunken behaviour:rolleyes:
The live noms made for riveting TV, but Michael went too far and was particularly heartless and spiteful. He's shot himself in the foot, and missed the perfect chance to absolutely spell out to Denise that when he goes into the bedroom, it's because he wants to be by himself! They still have to share a house and now, after the initial hurt, Denise is going to want to pursue him even more to analyse why he said what he did!
She didn't nominate him with grace at all, she laid all the blame at his door which was a blatant lie.
No she didn't. and what you say is either wrong, because you interpreted her exact words to mean something else or a blatant lie. Re watch it and write her words down. She does not blame him.
He did blame her by default, by absolving himself from blame, and I know lots of people will agree with him , but she has taken some blame, both tonight and over the course of the last week.
They clash and they are both to blame, the only thing that's to debate is the proportion of balme and i dont think its worth it.
No hes not, shes a married woman chasing after him, how does her husband feel watching her running after another man. Shes making herself look like a cheap t*amp.
i keep seeing this acusation about her chasing him or fancying him, I dont think so. I think she is just someone who likes to be liked. its annoying but its not a crime
She has all the signs. Particularly the desperation to be liked by everyone and not rejected.
It was just bizarre when she was on the bed on her own saying "why doesn't he get me, why doesn't he like me".
The victim status, the addiction, the history of depression but then again there are elements of NPD and sociopath too. But I think most people are in agreement she needs some help.
Really feeling sorry for Mr Healey this week......he's taken some punishment over the years but how now he's had to watch her self destruct on National TV and probably wreck her career to.
i keep seeing this acusation about her chasing him or fancying him, I dont think so. I think she is just someone who likes to be liked. its annoying but its not a crime
i think your words are harsh and unwarranted.
Well actually on BB tonight the housemates were jokingly saying they should get a room or wtte...................so something somewhere is leading them to think possibily the same as some out here.
Sometimes it best to take the better way and hold your tongue, the tongue can be crueler than the sword and leave lasting scars.
I think Michael is only going to get worse in the house because he is stressed and paranoid now.
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He was viciously unkind to Denise, whether she deserved it or not, we are all accountable for our own behavior and choose how we react.We can be compassionate or act like dvks.
Denise could have been vicious about him but was not.He did not have to go that far and came across a vindictive nasty man.I am not saying Denise is blameless,and she does have issues.But he went too far saying that on live Tv,-no editing- he knew it was live and to the crowd outside, and to us basically.
Well actually on BB tonight the housemates were jokingly saying they should get a room or wtte...................so something somewhere is leading them to think possibily the same as some out here.
the tiwns think it and have told several people. I dont think they are correct.
I think the twins lack emotional intelligence.
the tiwns think it and have told several people. I dont think they are correct.
I think the twins lack emotional intelligence.
I beg to differ. I think the twins are really savvy. They sussed nat's act,nic's nasty underbelly,kirk& Franky's reasons for nomming them & Georgia, and the fact that the guys were blanking them due to frustration at not bedding them.
They lived at the playboy mansion in a sexually charged atmosphere with many other girls and they are WELL aware of undertones in human behaviour. They were right,Denise fancies(childish but true) Michael and is doing the girlie equivalent of pulling his pigtails for attention. She is looking more desperate by the minute and her 11 yr old child will need therapy by the end of this,never mind her .
Michael was harsh,but totally accurate . She IS disturbed and needs help,and if no-one else is prepared to tell her then he did her a favour with his bluntness. He is/was disturbed himself and has had therapy and knows the real value of plain speaking more than most.
I think that Gareth genuinely likes Michael, the man rather the star as he said - and thinks he would be better to go home.
Although he's friendly with Denise as well, he doesn't seem to have the same degree of connection with her - and her antics wouldn't sit well with a guy as chilled and moderate as Gareth.
Denise and her cronies are Gareth's nom-free ticket to the final.
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I just don't understand why she keeps harranging him if he doesn't like her why doesn't she just leave him you can't please everyone in life.
She didn't nominate him with grace at all, she laid all the blame at his door which was a blatant lie.
Exactly, and if someone had made such attempts to make me look bad with their ridiculous fantasies, I would see that as dangerous behaviour and out them as bonkers to clear my name as well. Just because people are nutters, you don't allow them to make up bollocks about you, it's not on.
Edit, she's just said on BBOTS she was not drunk when she got her tits out for the lads, classic example of someone trying to justify drunken behaviour:rolleyes:
No hes not, shes a married woman chasing after him, how does her husband feel watching her running after another man. Shes making herself look like a cheap t*amp.
Agreed
No she didn't. and what you say is either wrong, because you interpreted her exact words to mean something else or a blatant lie. Re watch it and write her words down. She does not blame him.
He did blame her by default, by absolving himself from blame, and I know lots of people will agree with him , but she has taken some blame, both tonight and over the course of the last week.
They clash and they are both to blame, the only thing that's to debate is the proportion of balme and i dont think its worth it.
i keep seeing this acusation about her chasing him or fancying him, I dont think so. I think she is just someone who likes to be liked. its annoying but its not a crime
i think your words are harsh and unwarranted.
This.
She has all the signs. Particularly the desperation to be liked by everyone and not rejected.
It was just bizarre when she was on the bed on her own saying "why doesn't he get me, why doesn't he like me".
Think she's just playing to the cameras again and going for the sympathy vote so she doesn't get evicted personally
There are certainly a lot of them about...
But not so many own up to being one!
The victim status, the addiction, the history of depression but then again there are elements of NPD and sociopath too. But I think most people are in agreement she needs some help.
Really feeling sorry for Mr Healey this week......he's taken some punishment over the years but how now he's had to watch her self destruct on National TV and probably wreck her career to.
Well actually on BB tonight the housemates were jokingly saying they should get a room or wtte...................so something somewhere is leading them to think possibily the same as some out here.
I think Michael is only going to get worse in the house because he is stressed and paranoid now.
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He was viciously unkind to Denise, whether she deserved it or not, we are all accountable for our own behavior and choose how we react.We can be compassionate or act like dvks.
Denise could have been vicious about him but was not.He did not have to go that far and came across a vindictive nasty man.I am not saying Denise is blameless,and she does have issues.But he went too far saying that on live Tv,-no editing- he knew it was live and to the crowd outside, and to us basically.
the tiwns think it and have told several people. I dont think they are correct.
I think the twins lack emotional intelligence.
He could have just kept his reason simple and said that they don't get along.
They lived at the playboy mansion in a sexually charged atmosphere with many other girls and they are WELL aware of undertones in human behaviour. They were right,Denise fancies(childish but true) Michael and is doing the girlie equivalent of pulling his pigtails for attention. She is looking more desperate by the minute and her 11 yr old child will need therapy by the end of this,never mind her .
Michael was harsh,but totally accurate . She IS disturbed and needs help,and if no-one else is prepared to tell her then he did her a favour with his bluntness. He is/was disturbed himself and has had therapy and knows the real value of plain speaking more than most.
Denise and her cronies are Gareth's nom-free ticket to the final.