If you happen to be the actors who play Sean Tully, Michelle Connor or Fiz Stape you are hated regardless of what happens. Yet it's hard to take it seriously as this is a forum who think the likes of one expression Android Carla is the most talented actress in soap.
Yeah I don't really get all the Kym Marsh hate. She doesn't seem that bad. I'm sure there's people nastier than her out there!
Yeah I don't really get all the Kym Marsh hate. She doesn't seem that bad. I'm sure there's people nastier than her out there!
Well I can't comment on her personality and I don't follow the lives of actors/celebs outside of the soaps but I don't think she's a bad actress at all.
Since the atrocity of last nights closing credits I have vented my frustrations on various corrie threads and hallelujah I have just found this one to rant further....
I just think people should focus more on the story rather than the actors. It's a terribly sad story but it will be gripping, hopefully.
loving your optimism here....you're right we should focus on the story but it kind of overshadows how moving this scene should be if it is poorly acted/written.
Absolutely love the title! I don't actually mind Jenny McAlpine's acting although her voice is annoying. When Kirsty was abusing Tyrone Fizz was quite good. Since then Tyrone and Fizz both bore me and I'm not that bothered about the Hope storyline. Obviously if it was real life and a little girl was ill it would be different but as for the storyline I just can't really get into it.
Exactly, I as a parent, should feel empathy for their grief but I dont. I cant quite work out if it is the way it is poorly written or the abysmal acting or both. AND HER VOICE. The way conveys it in this babyish drawl "eh sweeeeeetart. Canihaveahug. Now the docterrrrr said. That. You've got a. Luuuump. In your tummmey....." it was embarrassing! !!
It's very hard to feel anything much for soap children. I wonder if the writers think that because most viewers are parents, they want to see "family" storylines? It doesn't work like that. Other people's children aren't all that interesting, and soap children are either blank and looking into the distance (or confused, like Jack), or annoyingly precocious and false, like the young Simon. They don't come across as "real people" and can spoil a scene with good adult actors.
Just because we ask "where are the children?" in the SOR thread, it doesn't mean we're keen to see them!
I think soap children should be occasionally seen and seldom heard. Not have so many plot lines around them.
And aside from that, Fizz is abysmal. I only ever enjoyed her as a "straight woman" to John Stape.
well I read all the replies and I have to say I strongly disagree with people saying she was no good. She was experiencing (acting) inner grief and pain and apart from throwing herself on the floor and wailing there ain't much she could do. I think she said it all in her facial expression. She's bewildered and confused and has nowhere to turn for help. I thought she conveyed that really well last night.
well I read all the replies and I have to say I strongly disagree with people saying she was no good. She was experiencing (acting) inner grief and pain and apart from throwing herself on the floor and wailing there ain't much she could do. I think she said it all in her facial expression. She's bewildered and confused and has nowhere to turn for help. I thought she conveyed that really well last night.
Yeah, I didn't have any problem with Fiz last night either. My issue was with Tyrone running off like that. I just wanted to scream "Man up!". I know it must be really tough having that kind of conversation with your child but you have to put on a brave face and have your wobble away from the kids!
Omg so glad other people agree with me on her acting ability! She's not good at this emotional stuff. Her daughter could die and she's waking around sometimes smiling and acting like she's ok. They should show more scenes of her breaking down or crying silently as she's putting her to sleep. So far it has been absolute rubbish and I haven't connected with her emotions at all! And I'm a mum myself but she hasn't made me cry yet! Shabnam in Eastenders however made me cry, she was brilliant at acting her still birth!
Corrie cannot tackle real-life illnesses and making a four year old girl 'try to act' as if she is sick, just doesn't work.
The girl who plays Fizz's daughter clearly doesn't know what the heck is going on. I know she is only four but was she seriously the best child actor Corrie could have hired???
And Fizz - sorry, just using character names here - the acting sank to a new low level last night
I think this storyline might be a way of quietly recasting Hope. I think the reason people can't connect with it is that Hope just doesn't talk. She has no personality. She doesn't do anything so I can understand many find it hard to care.
I think this storyline might be a way of quietly recasting Hope. I think the reason people can't connect with it is that Hope just doesn't talk. She has no personality. She doesn't do anything so I can understand many find it hard to care.
I think the point is we are meant to care about Fiz not Hope which won't work as Fiz is one of the most annoying characters in the show.
From my perspective, there's something missing with the way this story line's playing out so far.
I should feel some emotion, but I don't. I should have had a tear in my eye, but I didn't. I'm just not that bothered.
Question is why?
Acting? Writing? Don't know. But there's something definitely missing.
Having now caught up, I think it's definitely the appalling writing. All the dialogue in the Hope scenes is 'right' per se, but it's just so mechanical. There's no personality or emotion to the writing; Alan Halsall and Jennie McAlpine really have nothing to work with, the writing is so staid and rigid. It's also obvious that Hope is no actress. It's just utter cringe.
I fast forward through all the bits of the programme pertaining to this storyline as I simply can't abide watching the dreadful performances of 'Fiz' in particular ...
Anthony Cotton ? ... well it's all been said before - and yet he's still there :-(
Having now caught up, I think it's definitely the appalling writing. All the dialogue in the Hope scenes is 'right' per se, but it's just so mechanical. There's no personality or emotion to the writing; Alan Halsall and Jennie McAlpine really have nothing to work with, the writing is so staid and rigid. It's also obvious that Hope is no actress. It's just utter cringe.
You could be right.:)
I'd need to re-watch it to be more analytical. Problem is, I can't really be bothered!
But I will be trying to take more notice of the writing/acting this week. Maybe I'll be able to put my finger on it.
I don't have much to say about the quality of the acting. There's nothing particularly wrong with it but for me the whole storyline is a dreadful idea. We just don't need to see it.
Fiz is played by a one dimensional actress. All she can do is screw up her brow and nose, which makes her look snarly. In the scenes when she has a go at Ty and Aidan, she could have played them with high emotion but with some hint of desperation and sadness. But no, it's just full on foghorn and nastiness.
Fiz is played by a one dimensional actress. All she can do is screw up her brow and nose, which makes her look snarly. In the scenes when she has a go at Ty and Aidan, she could have played them with high emotion but with some hint of desperation and sadness. But no, it's just full on foghorn and nastiness.
She has a comedic face. And the teeth don't help. She should have got new ones years ago.
In the meantime, she should be doing comedy. She was perfect for Little Britain. That required little acting skills. The only requirement is the character looks stupid. And she wouldn't need any make up.
She has a comedic face. And the teeth don't help. She should have got new ones years ago.
In the meantime, she should be doing comedy. She was perfect for Little Britain. That required little acting skills. The only requirement is the character looks stupid. And she wouldn't need any make up.
I just think you're getting a bit personal and nasty about the actress now, to be honest.
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Yeah I don't really get all the Kym Marsh hate. She doesn't seem that bad. I'm sure there's people nastier than her out there!
Correct. I am an expert on such matters.
Well I can't comment on her personality and I don't follow the lives of actors/celebs outside of the soaps but I don't think she's a bad actress at all.
I loved Mo too! He is sadly missed.
We could definitely done with wisdom on Fiz from Mo!
With all the awful things she has done and with her nasty, snarly side, why is she such goodie character? She's be brilliant as as Corrie bitch.
loving your optimism here....you're right we should focus on the story but it kind of overshadows how moving this scene should be if it is poorly acted/written.
Exactly, I as a parent, should feel empathy for their grief but I dont. I cant quite work out if it is the way it is poorly written or the abysmal acting or both. AND HER VOICE. The way conveys it in this babyish drawl "eh sweeeeeetart. Canihaveahug. Now the docterrrrr said. That. You've got a. Luuuump. In your tummmey....." it was embarrassing! !!
Just because we ask "where are the children?" in the SOR thread, it doesn't mean we're keen to see them!
I think soap children should be occasionally seen and seldom heard. Not have so many plot lines around them.
And aside from that, Fizz is abysmal. I only ever enjoyed her as a "straight woman" to John Stape.
Yeah, I didn't have any problem with Fiz last night either. My issue was with Tyrone running off like that. I just wanted to scream "Man up!". I know it must be really tough having that kind of conversation with your child but you have to put on a brave face and have your wobble away from the kids!
I should feel some emotion, but I don't. I should have had a tear in my eye, but I didn't. I'm just not that bothered.
Question is why?
Acting? Writing? Don't know. But there's something definitely missing.
Was about to post the same! All that baby voice - either that or shrieking! - and the 'looking into the distance', pi$$ poor.
Corrie cannot tackle real-life illnesses and making a four year old girl 'try to act' as if she is sick, just doesn't work.
The girl who plays Fizz's daughter clearly doesn't know what the heck is going on. I know she is only four but was she seriously the best child actor Corrie could have hired???
And Fizz - sorry, just using character names here - the acting sank to a new low level last night
Dire beyond belief.
I think the point is we are meant to care about Fiz not Hope which won't work as Fiz is one of the most annoying characters in the show.
Having now caught up, I think it's definitely the appalling writing. All the dialogue in the Hope scenes is 'right' per se, but it's just so mechanical. There's no personality or emotion to the writing; Alan Halsall and Jennie McAlpine really have nothing to work with, the writing is so staid and rigid. It's also obvious that Hope is no actress. It's just utter cringe.
Anthony Cotton ? ... well it's all been said before - and yet he's still there :-(
You could be right.:)
I'd need to re-watch it to be more analytical. Problem is, I can't really be bothered!
But I will be trying to take more notice of the writing/acting this week. Maybe I'll be able to put my finger on it.
Breaking the news to Roy and getting the diagnosis from the doc.
She has a comedic face. And the teeth don't help. She should have got new ones years ago.
In the meantime, she should be doing comedy. She was perfect for Little Britain. That required little acting skills. The only requirement is the character looks stupid. And she wouldn't need any make up.
I just think you're getting a bit personal and nasty about the actress now, to be honest.