Oh dear, a typo; and I can't blame my poor literacy on my teacher. Our English teacher in primary school (age 5-11years) never discussed sex with us; if he had, we would not have known what he was talking about anyway.
You had specific teachers for each subject? We had the same teacher for all subjects. We had that teacher for a year then we went up a year with a new teacher. We had 6 teachers at my school. It's usually only secondary where they have dedicated subject teachers.
I learnt about sex at school. Can't tell you what as it was so long ago. I know we did it but very basic stuff. Didn't harm me.
Looks like I may have misunderstood "learning by rote" (I told you it was a long time ago), as in learning by repetition, I actually meant just learning facts and figures from text books, and stuff written up either on the blackboard or on well worn pieces of A3 paper pinned on the woodwork.
Subjects like science & technology couldn't really be taught that way but some subjects like history still seemed to be taught in that way, especially when the teacher would set you copying things down then left the room for a kip.
I was so lucky - the schools I went to had many teachers who didn't believe in learning that way.. we discussed and debated all sorts of issues. We were expected to read the set texts on our own time and use the classroom to explore around the actual 'knowledge' bit. I can remember some fiery debates on things like apartheid, the famous 'Rivers of Blood' speech, the 'Empire' and 'women's lib'.
You had specific teachers for each subject? We had the same teacher for all subjects. We had that teacher for a year then we went up a year with a new teacher. We had 6 teachers at my school. It's usually only secondary where they have dedicated subject teachers.
I learnt about sex at school. Can't tell you what as it was so long ago. I know we did it but very basic stuff. Didn't harm me.
Primary teacher are still expected to teach all the curriculum I believe, but some do specialise in particular subjects. My 'ex', who had degrees in languages and history was always asking me questions about science because it wasn't her main field and there was no help at her school... but they did have a specialist maths teacher (for which I am grateful, as she never discovered my appalling maths skills.)
Primary teacher are still expected to teach all the curriculum I believe, but some do specialise in particular subjects. My 'ex', who had degrees in languages and history was always asking me questions about science because it wasn't her main field and there was no help at her school... but they did have a specialist maths teacher (for which I am grateful, as she never discovered my appalling maths skills.)
My ex had a specialist by next too! His was art. He had to teach year 6 three years in a row but I imagine now he will have changed year groups. His school is much bigger than when I went to school. Although recently I was up in Lincolnshire and saw they had built an extension for 3 new classes. There was only 6 classes when I was there so I wonder what year group had the most pupils that required the building work. I know there was an influx of new housing where I used to live and I doubt it would have all been people with 5 year olds
"It seems to me he is trying to silence that sector by accusing anyone who disagrees with him of being homophobic and that makes me wonder just how committed he can be to allowing the kids to express themselves freely if he counters any views he doesn't like with those kinds of tactics. "
It's not just opinion, it's opinion based on you pulling it out of your backside rather than on any information relayed in the various articles linked to throughout this thread.
Thanks for confirming my suspicions though. Refreshingly honest of you
Disgusting how can a supposedly progressive country like the UK allow this to happen!
I don't know how people can continue to defend Islam when it is responsible for things like this. Shame on everyone involved, including no doubt minority pleasing liberals.
Disgusting how can a supposedly progressive country like the UK allow this to happen!
I don't know how people can continue to defend Islam when it is responsible for things like this. Shame on everyone involved, including no doubt minority pleasing liberals.
Disgusting how can a supposedly progressive country like the UK allow this to happen!
I don't know how people can continue to defend Islam when it is responsible for things like this. Shame on everyone involved, including no doubt minority pleasing liberals.
...why do I get the impression you haven't been reading the thread?
This topic I can see would be full of people just blindly condemning the parents assuming that because it involves being against what they blindly assume all gay people agree with. Of all the gay people I know all of them disagree with marriage and there are many people who disagree with marriage in general.
My parents weren't married, it doesn't make them any more or less in love because they weren't married. All their friends that got married are now divorced and remarried at least once except for one and there are people who are happily divorced and still get on.
The reality of the situation is the school is said to be in a high Muslim area, Islam is the most against homosexuality of all mainstream religions so it is understandable their parents would be against it. Being against gay marriage isn't exclusively a religious view. Many people disagree with marriage in general and some people disagree with gay marriage because they fear it could lead on to marriages with animals, children and close relatives claiming they should be able to get married because they are as in love as straight and gay people.
This topic I can see would be full of people just blindly condemning the parents assuming that because it involves being against what they blindly assume all gay people agree with. Of all the gay people I know all of them disagree with marriage and there are many people who disagree with marriage in general.
Whereas if you read the thread, it's actually been more about people condemning the teacher...
My parents weren't married, it doesn't make them any more or less in love because they weren't married. All their friends that got married are now divorced and remarried at least once except for one and there are people who are happily divorced and still get on.
But your parents had the choice. They chose not to. LGBT people should have that choice too, and it's only right that the law now reflects this.
The reality of the situation is the school is said to be in a high Muslim area, Islam is the most against homosexuality of all mainstream religions so it is understandable their parents would be against it. Being against gay marriage isn't exclusively a religious view. Many people disagree with marriage in general and some people disagree with gay marriage because they fear it could lead on to marriages with animals, children and close relatives claiming they should be able to get married because they are as in love as straight and gay people.
The reality of the situation is people of Christian and Islamic religious backgrounds complained, and actually, this had little to do with marriage, and was simply about inclusiveness.
This topic I can see would be full of people just blindly condemning the parents assuming that because it involves being against what they blindly assume all gay people agree with. Of all the gay people I know all of them disagree with marriage and there are many people who disagree with marriage in general.
My parents weren't married, it doesn't make them any more or less in love because they weren't married. All their friends that got married are now divorced and remarried at least once except for one and there are people who are happily divorced and still get on.
The reality of the situation is the school is said to be in a high Muslim area, Islam is the most against homosexuality of all mainstream religions so it is understandable their parents would be against it. Being against gay marriage isn't exclusively a religious view. Many people disagree with marriage in general and some people disagree with gay marriage because they fear it could lead on to marriages with animals, children and close relatives claiming they should be able to get married because they are as in love as straight and gay people.
First of all, the parents who complained were in the minority. Secondly, marriage wasn't really the issue here, was it?
Don't apologise to me sweetheart. I'm sorry if you feel that any of us were having a go at you, but really we were just countering your point.
The fact that you bundled it with an insult probably did put a few backs up though, which is why both of us responded to you in the way we did.
Aw bless you - I obviously did jump the gun and that was wrong but I appreciate the kind words. I also do really dislike Islam and I'm not going to be sorry for that, but when I get any basic facts about something wrong I have no problem with apologising and learning from the experience.
I've had my issues with that religion too, but then some of my family are adherents of that religion, and I have friends who follow it too.
It's not really any different from Christianity, where different people follow the faith in different ways, you can't tar them all with the same brush.
One of my closet friends follows the Islamic faith, and has no issue with my sexuality, for example.
You make very good points here.
I do try not to judge all people by the actions of a few but it can be difficult not to get swept up in the media's biased reporting at times. Sometimes I can't help think "for goodness sake" when I see yet another story about the intolerance of Islam. You are right though - Christianity is not too dissimilar in some ways.
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You had specific teachers for each subject? We had the same teacher for all subjects. We had that teacher for a year then we went up a year with a new teacher. We had 6 teachers at my school. It's usually only secondary where they have dedicated subject teachers.
I learnt about sex at school. Can't tell you what as it was so long ago. I know we did it but very basic stuff. Didn't harm me.
I was so lucky - the schools I went to had many teachers who didn't believe in learning that way.. we discussed and debated all sorts of issues. We were expected to read the set texts on our own time and use the classroom to explore around the actual 'knowledge' bit. I can remember some fiery debates on things like apartheid, the famous 'Rivers of Blood' speech, the 'Empire' and 'women's lib'.
Primary teacher are still expected to teach all the curriculum I believe, but some do specialise in particular subjects. My 'ex', who had degrees in languages and history was always asking me questions about science because it wasn't her main field and there was no help at her school... but they did have a specialist maths teacher (for which I am grateful, as she never discovered my appalling maths skills.)
My ex had a specialist by next too! His was art. He had to teach year 6 three years in a row but I imagine now he will have changed year groups. His school is much bigger than when I went to school. Although recently I was up in Lincolnshire and saw they had built an extension for 3 new classes. There was only 6 classes when I was there so I wonder what year group had the most pupils that required the building work. I know there was an influx of new housing where I used to live and I doubt it would have all been people with 5 year olds
It's not just opinion, it's opinion based on you pulling it out of your backside rather than on any information relayed in the various articles linked to throughout this thread.
Thanks for confirming my suspicions though. Refreshingly honest of you
I don't know how people can continue to defend Islam when it is responsible for things like this. Shame on everyone involved, including no doubt minority pleasing liberals.
It was Christians too
...why do I get the impression you haven't been reading the thread?
I've been biting my tongue so I didn't break my NY's resolution!
Or just a load of bigoted homophobic parents of all backgrounds.
It's over 800 posts long. Who has time to read all that?
My parents weren't married, it doesn't make them any more or less in love because they weren't married. All their friends that got married are now divorced and remarried at least once except for one and there are people who are happily divorced and still get on.
The reality of the situation is the school is said to be in a high Muslim area, Islam is the most against homosexuality of all mainstream religions so it is understandable their parents would be against it. Being against gay marriage isn't exclusively a religious view. Many people disagree with marriage in general and some people disagree with gay marriage because they fear it could lead on to marriages with animals, children and close relatives claiming they should be able to get married because they are as in love as straight and gay people.
Don't worry, I started this thread and I haven't read all the post.
Must be pruning because it wouldn't let me access the thread a few seconds ago.
Whereas if you read the thread, it's actually been more about people condemning the teacher...
But your parents had the choice. They chose not to. LGBT people should have that choice too, and it's only right that the law now reflects this.
The reality of the situation is people of Christian and Islamic religious backgrounds complained, and actually, this had little to do with marriage, and was simply about inclusiveness.
First of all, the parents who complained were in the minority. Secondly, marriage wasn't really the issue here, was it?
Thanks for the reassurance.
If it helps, all you have to do is read the link in the OP, and you'll realise that your initial assertion was actually quite wrong:).
I'll read it, and again I apologise.
Don't apologise to me sweetheart. I'm sorry if you feel that any of us were having a go at you, but really we were just countering your point.
The fact that you bundled it with an insult probably did put a few backs up though, which is why both of us responded to you in the way we did.
Aw bless you - I obviously did jump the gun and that was wrong but I appreciate the kind words. I also do really dislike Islam and I'm not going to be sorry for that, but when I get any basic facts about something wrong I have no problem with apologising and learning from the experience.
You make very good points here.
I do try not to judge all people by the actions of a few but it can be difficult not to get swept up in the media's biased reporting at times. Sometimes I can't help think "for goodness sake" when I see yet another story about the intolerance of Islam. You are right though - Christianity is not too dissimilar in some ways.