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This fake winner needs to be stripped of her win

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Using a fake dog and not telling the public, she was a cheat and needs to be stripped of the title and everyone who voted have the money refunded.
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    xTonixxTonix Posts: 56,274
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    No, no and no, the dog wasn't fake, I saw it move, breathe and everything.
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    calamitycalamity Posts: 12,894
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    myscimitar wrote: »
    Using a fake dog and not telling the public, she was a cheat and needs to be stripped of the title and everyone who voted have the money refunded.
    the ones who voted for this appalling act dont deserve their money back... cruel old fashioned circus act..
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    xTonixxTonix Posts: 56,274
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    It isn't 'cruel' the dogs are very well looked after and enjoy what they do, any womble can see that.
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    Dalekbuster523Dalekbuster523 Posts: 4,596
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    No no no no no no no.

    No.

    Anyone who paid to vote should realise it was their own fault anyway because you can have five free votes on the app; you don't need to pay. And why should she be stripped of her win over a non-issue?

    It's like going to see a Oscar-winning movie and demanding it's stripped of its Oscar because there was a stunt double in it.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,306
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    No no no no no no no.

    No.

    Anyone who paid to vote should realise it was their own fault anyway because you can have five free votes on the app; you don't need to pay. And why should she be stripped of her win over a non-issue?

    It's like going to see a Oscar-winning movie and demanding it's stripped of its Oscar because there was a stunt double in it.

    Great so I can now enter miming to a great singer and win, even without telling anyone.. Now where is the entry form!
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    unclekevounclekevo Posts: 20,749
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    Oh hi again, you're the one who made the thread about Matisse being cruelly forced to walk a tightrope aren't you? This is why we need the roll eyes smiley back
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    Dalekbuster523Dalekbuster523 Posts: 4,596
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    myscimitar wrote: »
    Great so I can now enter miming to a great singer and win, even without telling anyone.. Now where is the entry form!

    That's completely different. And anyway, it could work if played as a comedy similar to the end scene in Singin' In The Rain.
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    shelleyj89shelleyj89 Posts: 16,292
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    You realise it was a real, living, breathing dog that walked the tightrope, don't you, OP?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,306
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    shelleyj89 wrote: »
    You realise it was a real, living, breathing dog that walked the tightrope, don't you, OP?

    yes but not the one everyone voted for...
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    Dalekbuster523Dalekbuster523 Posts: 4,596
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    myscimitar wrote: »
    yes but not the one everyone voted for...

    Yes it was. People voted for Chase as well as Matisse in the semi final. If some people thought Chase wouldn't be part of the final performance, then they're unbelievably thick and should probably audition for TOWIE.
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    spikewomanspikewoman Posts: 12,288
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    Although the act is called "Jules and Matisse" we already knew that the performance in the final was an ensemble because the story wouldn't have worked without Skippy.
    Therefore even though lots of people (myself included) hadn't twigged at the time that it was Chase who was walking the wire we'd already accepted that performers other than "Jules" and "Matisse" were part of the act. We already knew Chase exists because of the semis so it shouldn't be a massive shock at his reintroduction.
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    babyshezbabyshez Posts: 993
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    Oh get over it. Jules won, deal with it.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,306
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    Yes it was. People voted for Chase as well as Matisse in the semi final. If some people thought Chase wouldn't be part of the final performance, then they're unbelievably thick and should probably audition for TOWIE.

    Why should they believe Chase was in the final, the dog was not in the first round. Only Matisse, so why would the public not believe it was only this dog again, if both were in all the rounds then yes your comment is right,,but that was not the case.
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    Dalekbuster523Dalekbuster523 Posts: 4,596
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    myscimitar wrote: »
    Why should they believe Chase was in the final, the dog was not in the first round. Only Matisse, so why would the public not believe it was only this dog again, if both were in all the rounds then yes your comment is right,,but that was not the case.

    Because Chase was in the semi final and helped them get through to the final in the first place?

    TOWIE is waiting for you, myscimitar...
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,306
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    Because Chase was in the semi final and helped them get through to the final in the first place?

    TOWIE is waiting for you, myscimitar...

    Ok, be honest when you watched it, did you get it was Chase going across the ropes at the time!
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    tawnytawny Posts: 1,807
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    calamity wrote: »
    the ones who voted for this appalling act dont deserve their money back... cruel old fashioned circus act..

    Oh you are still - still the same old rant - give it a rest you are boring
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    kandinskikandinski Posts: 738
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    There was something of the night about Jules,didnt buy her smily smily act.
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    Dalekbuster523Dalekbuster523 Posts: 4,596
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    myscimitar wrote: »
    Ok, be honest when you watched it, did you get it was Chase going across the ropes at the time!

    No but I wasn't too surprised when she said it was Chase a day later.
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    Lee_BromleyLee_Bromley Posts: 172
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    It was incredibly deceitful to secretly use a second dog, and completely wrong to make a dog walk across a rope. How can Cowell call himself an animal lover but think that this circus act is acceptable?

    It's almost like the country's talent barrel has been scraped completely dry, so anything goes...
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    Grumpy_AlanGrumpy_Alan Posts: 1,672
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    kandinski wrote: »
    There was something of the night about Jules,didnt buy her smily smily act.


    As the human half of a dog act she was much less likeable than Ashleigh was when she won BGT.

    And, of course, Asheligh did it for the love of her dog without any thoughts initially of making money out of it all.

    Jules, on the other hand is old enough, and experienced enough in the animal training world, (where she earns her living anyway), to be fully motivated by the potential for extra income.
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    tellywatcher73tellywatcher73 Posts: 4,181
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    As the human half of a dog act she was much less likeable than Ashleigh was when she won BGT.

    And, of course, Asheligh did it for the love of her dog without any thoughts initially of making money out of it all.

    Jules, on the other hand is old enough, and experienced enough in the animal training world, (where she earns her living anyway), to be fully motivated by the potential for extra income.

    Yep, she entered the biggest televised talent show in the country with absolutely no thoughts of fame and fortune. She might have been young but I doubt if she was stupid.
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    oathyoathy Posts: 32,639
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    kandinski wrote: »
    There was something of the night about Jules,didnt buy her smily smily act.

    Love all the dogs, cant stand her and not just this incident just something about her
    I really dislike immensely
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    Dalekbuster523Dalekbuster523 Posts: 4,596
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    It was incredibly deceitful to secretly use a second dog, and completely wrong to make a dog walk across a rope. How can Cowell call himself an animal lover but think that this circus act is acceptable?

    Because it is acceptable and not in any way cruel.
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    spikewomanspikewoman Posts: 12,288
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    As the human half of a dog act she was much less likeable than Ashleigh was when she won BGT.

    And, of course, Asheligh did it for the love of her dog without any thoughts initially of making money out of it all.

    Jules, on the other hand is old enough, and experienced enough in the animal training world, (where she earns her living anyway), to be fully motivated by the potential for extra income.

    As it happens Ashleigh and her family are experienced dog trainers too, Pudsey isn't just a one off pet he's part of a business and was bred and has offspring for the purpose of performing. That said what you said about Ashleigh charismatically vs Jules is fair comment.
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    MattXfactorMattXfactor Posts: 3,223
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    I'm still not fully sure about this. In my view it was slightly ambiguous how she chose not to tell us after the act that Chase was also involved. However she did use Chase in the Semi's right? And it is her dog? So what is she actually guilty of here?
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