Not sure where I saw the £29(I maybe switched a $ to a £ and forgot to switch the 9 to 5) but I think the bad reviews I saw were in the £25 One.
Lning to USB £15, Lning to USB 2m £25, lning 30pin cable £35, Lning VGA adapter £40 .
The standard 1m cable has the worst rating a 1 star though none of the other two get anywhere near 2 stars UK. In the US they get closer to 2 stars out of 5.
Sure, but I don't think its a conspiracy.
I remember the cable on our first powerbook - it eventually wore at the connector bit.
But Apple came up with the magnetic connector which practically eliminated stress on the connection. For all the talk about Apple not being innovative, because they haven't released some great new product, I think that was a pretty good example of them being innovative to solve a particular problem.
And one they probably wouldn't have come up with if they genuinely wanted to supply people with crappy products that failed.
If true that Apple suddenly stopped working/gave pop up messages for 3rd party cables, then those who were forced to spend £15 or £25 might have been exacting revenge via bad reviews.
So them reviews might have been for the Apple Windfall Tax of IOS 7.
If true that Apple suddenly stopped working/gave pop up messages for 3rd party cables, then those who were forced to spend £15 or £25 might have been exacting revenge via bad reviews.
So them reviews might have been for the Apple Windfall Tax of IOS 7.
Yes, that is a conspiracy theory. Just not a very good one.
I have two lighting cables which I think cost about £2 each. Neither give a pop up message.
If true that Apple suddenly stopped working/gave pop up messages for 3rd party cables, then those who were forced to spend £15 or £25 might have been exacting revenge via bad reviews.
So them reviews might have been for the Apple Windfall Tax of IOS 7.
From the top of the article:
"In a move possibly triggered by stories of deadly electrical shocks coming from Apple iPhone and Apple iPad units, the Cupertino based tech giant is blocking the use of unauthorized third party Lightning cables with iOS 7."
So what is the conspiracy? That Apple have been flooding the market with unsafe cheap knock offs of their own cables, that they knew would likely cause accidents, and so give them their casus belli to block unauthorised cables?
Seems it is the iPHone 5 has a bigger tendency to stop charging to need a new IC.
"The original Apple chargers and USB leads regulate the voltage and current to a level that protects your valuable iPhone and prevents it from damage."
What I suspect is happening, is that to reduce iPhone 5 failure Apple has lowered thresholds for when cables and maybe even chargers get rejected.
It might also be that that rogue official Apple USB charger is the one that did much of the killing of the cables. So maybe the chipped cable self destructs on minor voltage fluctuation..
Of course that will be denied as merely the 'unlucky ones', I've never been so 'unlucky' since buying a 5s
edit: seems the charging port on the 5s is knackered as no cables now work, have an appointment Tuesday so I hope this fantastic Apple service is shown.
I remember the cable on our first powerbook - it eventually wore at the connector bit.
But Apple came up with the magnetic connector which practically eliminated stress on the connection. For all the talk about Apple not being innovative, because they haven't released some great new product, I think that was a pretty good example of them being innovative to solve a particular problem.
And one they probably wouldn't have come up with if they genuinely wanted to supply people with crappy products that failed.
I agree with you re the MagSafe connector, however Apple also patented it allowing them to control supply and charge licensing fees for using it. The fundamental problem we have on this forum is that people see these proprietary technologies as purely a conspiracy to bleed customers dry. First and foremost it is an innovative approach to technology - followed by an inevitable commercial policy that maximises their return, which of course any company would strive to do.
Also, of course, the concept that a company would deliberately produce unreliable products to be able to sell more of them is completely laughable.
I never managed to properly logically join any dots on this, and as curiosity kills the cat.
...I clicked into the iPhone community to see LATEST posts and what do I see.
1) My Iphone 5 wont charge, 2)Problems batteria iphone 4s dopo ios 7, 3)iPhone 5 shows battery charge sign, I've recharged but phone does not work, 4)My iphone 5 suddenly died., 8) iPhone 5 not charging while plugged in, 9) Iphone 5 charger keeps on breaking.
What Apple seem to be doing is locking contentious threads and moved them to a new where where ones a normal iTunes logon does not work. (try clicking the branched thread!) (managing bad news by hiding the evidence?)
Interestingly they even seem to have paid Apple 'community specialists', like Lightning, doing posts on these threads. I've never seen that before !
Since I've had an iPhone 5 I've gone through 6 lightening cables. I wouldn't mind if it got ragged about. It sits plugged in to the plug next to my bed. When I get into bed I put the phone on charge. Yet six of them have failed.
Is that 1 original apple cable and 5 ebay 99p efforts ? ;-)
I never managed to properly logically join any dots on this, and as curiosity kills the cat.
...I clicked into the iPhone community to see LATEST posts and what do I see.
1) My Iphone 5 wont charge, 2)Problems batteria iphone 4s dopo ios 7, 3)iPhone 5 shows battery charge sign, I've recharged but phone does not work, 4)My iphone 5 suddenly died., 8) iPhone 5 not charging while plugged in, 9) Iphone 5 charger keeps on breaking.
What Apple seem to be doing is locking contentious threads and moved them to a new where where ones a normal iTunes logon does not work. (try clicking the branched thread!) (managing bad news by hiding the evidence?)
Interestingly they even seem to have paid Apple 'community specialists', like Lightning, doing posts on these threads. I've never seen that before !
So what have we established here?
Is it that people with problems are far more likely to seek advice on a support forum than people who don't have problems?
And why not ? (i.e. plugging in my charger without taking my eyes off the road). Would you also say I shouldn't buy a car with gears as I would likewise have to take one hand off the steering wheel ?
REALLY!!!!
I hope you are trolling.
First of all, changing gears dosen't affect your concentration, plugging a cable into a phone does, and I seriously doubt that you don't take your eyes off the road, and in that split second is when accidents occur. Even if you do keep them attached to the road, and keep one hand on the wheel, you're concentration is not fully on the road.
Do us ALL a favour and stop doing it now, before you KILL someone because of your selfish actions!
For the price they charge for the offical ones, they should definately improve the quality of them.
However, I think the design of the lighting port is far better than the USB. It seems others feel them same, otherwise, why would they have designed a new one.
Agreed (:o) the lightning connector is better.
I do think they needed to design a new one anyway as the old one was crap. Bloody huge as well!!
So what have we established here?
Is it that people with problems are far more likely to seek advice on a support forum than people who don't have problems?
As it was mainly a problem with the the non charging iPhone 5, I'd say that the iPnone 5 is in a disaster zone unto itself.
So what have we established here?
Is it that people with problems are far more likely to seek advice on a support forum than people who don't have problems?
"t's got nothing to do with the cable being hard wearing. Turn phone on and plug in nothing happens. Turn phone off and plug in it charges no bother. Smart arses aren't so smart. The chip in the charger must stop responding or whatever they have done to make this charger "special" which prevented Asian copycats for a few months."
I think theres's three chips one in a charger, one in the cable and one in the phone that don't play well together. I'd certainly say Rich Old lady Apple swallowed a fly on this one, it rickles and tickles the customers, especially those with the 5.
"...The iPhone 5 may well be the best qulaity product Apple have every built but the cable most certainly is the very worst quality product I have every purchased from Apple, appalling!..."
Will the iPhone 6 switch to standard USB with standard voltage regulators too?
Does the standards world really have any catching up to do? It appears not.
People are going through 5 cables, 3 chargers etc etc. ANd that is when the iPhone 5 will actually charge.
It is quite funny on that forum. Seems if you have a lot of 'points' then you have a tendency to tell the customer it is all their fault.
"The cables the other person posted, the nice flat durable ones that come in different colors and are 65 cents have that "accessory not supported" message come up less frequently. The best thing is, it still charges even despite the message. Since I started using these 65 cent chargers, I've seen the "accessory not supported" message pop up 2 times in 4 months. Apple's own lightning cable purchased directly from Apple, this would be a daily occurence. 8-10x a day that message would pop up due to it cutting off charging.
I ask you again people, which is the better charger to use? The one costing 65 cents that consistently and reliably charges the Iphone 5 with no problems, or Apple's $25-$40 charger that continually cuts off charging, breaks, and is completely unreliable."
(from that same link)
BTW I'm still left puzzled whether non Apple chargers are to blame for the ICs inside the iPhone 5 breaking, so whatever you use to charge a 5, it does looks a gamble in this non standards Apple world.
I remember the cable on our first powerbook - it eventually wore at the connector bit.
But Apple came up with the magnetic connector which practically eliminated stress on the connection. For all the talk about Apple not being innovative, because they haven't released some great new product, I think that was a pretty good example of them being innovative to solve a particular problem.
And one they probably wouldn't have come up with if they genuinely wanted to supply people with crappy products that failed.
While I agree I don't think there's any conspiracy theory over cables. Apple didn't invent the magnetic connector. Been used for years in Japanese rice cookers and deep fat fryers to avoid spills.
Whilst apple took it in a new direction they didn't invent it. But did make a connection between rice cookers and computers http://www.director.co.uk/ONLINE/2010/09_10_innovation_secrets_of_steve_jobs.html
I have two lightning cables, one for my iPad and one for my iPhone. My iPhone cable is starting to get the dreaded 'double chin' underneath the connector that happens when it's about to fall apart! I've had it 6 months.
If you think lightning cables are bad, you should have a look at the Macbook chargers. Absolutely appalling and break 10x faster.
.. My iPhone cable is starting to get the dreaded 'double chin' underneath the connector that happens when it's about to fall apart! I've had it 6 months. ...
Have you a dead slow 500mah USB charger you could use instead? Low ampage treats the battery far far better and likely helps the cable last longer too.
I don't use my 1 amp charger, theres a slow 450mah one I have from my MiFi I use for near everything.
I have two lightning cables, one for my iPad and one for my iPhone. My iPhone cable is starting to get the dreaded 'double chin' underneath the connector that happens when it's about to fall apart! I've had it 6 months.
If you think lightning cables are bad, you should have a look at the Macbook chargers. Absolutely appalling and break 10x faster.
That made me smile, a very good description. Mine has had that for more than a year now and still seems to be going strong. Although I'm fairly careful with my cables.
Have you a dead slow 500mah USB charger you could use instead? Low ampage treats the battery far far better and likely helps the cable last longer too.
I don't use my 1 amp charger, theres a slow 450mah one I have from my MiFi I use for near everything.
Charging your iPad with a 500mah charger will take forever. An iPad draws 2 amps.
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Sure, but I don't think its a conspiracy.
I remember the cable on our first powerbook - it eventually wore at the connector bit.
But Apple came up with the magnetic connector which practically eliminated stress on the connection. For all the talk about Apple not being innovative, because they haven't released some great new product, I think that was a pretty good example of them being innovative to solve a particular problem.
And one they probably wouldn't have come up with if they genuinely wanted to supply people with crappy products that failed.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Apple-blocks-unauthorized-Lightning-cables-with-iOS-7_id47612
If true that Apple suddenly stopped working/gave pop up messages for 3rd party cables, then those who were forced to spend £15 or £25 might have been exacting revenge via bad reviews.
So them reviews might have been for the Apple Windfall Tax of IOS 7.
Yes, that is a conspiracy theory. Just not a very good one.
I have two lighting cables which I think cost about £2 each. Neither give a pop up message.
From the top of the article:
"In a move possibly triggered by stories of deadly electrical shocks coming from Apple iPhone and Apple iPad units, the Cupertino based tech giant is blocking the use of unauthorized third party Lightning cables with iOS 7."
So what is the conspiracy? That Apple have been flooding the market with unsafe cheap knock offs of their own cables, that they knew would likely cause accidents, and so give them their casus belli to block unauthorised cables?
Something like that?
https://www.mendmyi.com/blog/2014/06/has-your-iphone-5-died-and-wont-charge-or-come-back-on-we-can-fix-that/
"We’ve had an influx of iPhone 5 in recently that had us in a bit of confusion."
Seems it is the iPHone 5 has a bigger tendency to stop charging to need a new IC.
"The original Apple chargers and USB leads regulate the voltage and current to a level that protects your valuable iPhone and prevents it from damage."
What I suspect is happening, is that to reduce iPhone 5 failure Apple has lowered thresholds for when cables and maybe even chargers get rejected.
It might also be that that rogue official Apple USB charger is the one that did much of the killing of the cables. So maybe the chipped cable self destructs on minor voltage fluctuation..
Of course that will be denied as merely the 'unlucky ones', I've never been so 'unlucky' since buying a 5s
edit: seems the charging port on the 5s is knackered as no cables now work, have an appointment Tuesday so I hope this fantastic Apple service is shown.
I agree with you re the MagSafe connector, however Apple also patented it allowing them to control supply and charge licensing fees for using it. The fundamental problem we have on this forum is that people see these proprietary technologies as purely a conspiracy to bleed customers dry. First and foremost it is an innovative approach to technology - followed by an inevitable commercial policy that maximises their return, which of course any company would strive to do.
Also, of course, the concept that a company would deliberately produce unreliable products to be able to sell more of them is completely laughable.
...I clicked into the iPhone community to see LATEST posts and what do I see.
1) My Iphone 5 wont charge, 2)Problems batteria iphone 4s dopo ios 7, 3)iPhone 5 shows battery charge sign, I've recharged but phone does not work, 4)My iphone 5 suddenly died., 8) iPhone 5 not charging while plugged in, 9) Iphone 5 charger keeps on breaking.
6 out of the first 8 had charging problems ! (e.g. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6493183)
And
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5383883?start=15&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4363206?start=15&tstart=0
What Apple seem to be doing is locking contentious threads and moved them to a new where where ones a normal iTunes logon does not work. (try clicking the branched thread!) (managing bad news by hiding the evidence?)
Interestingly they even seem to have paid Apple 'community specialists', like Lightning, doing posts on these threads. I've never seen that before !
Is that 1 original apple cable and 5 ebay 99p efforts ? ;-)
So what have we established here?
Is it that people with problems are far more likely to seek advice on a support forum than people who don't have problems?
REALLY!!!!
I hope you are trolling.
First of all, changing gears dosen't affect your concentration, plugging a cable into a phone does, and I seriously doubt that you don't take your eyes off the road, and in that split second is when accidents occur. Even if you do keep them attached to the road, and keep one hand on the wheel, you're concentration is not fully on the road.
Do us ALL a favour and stop doing it now, before you KILL someone because of your selfish actions!
Agreed (:o) the lightning connector is better.
I do think they needed to design a new one anyway as the old one was crap. Bloody huge as well!!
As it was mainly a problem with the the non charging iPhone 5, I'd say that the iPnone 5 is in a disaster zone unto itself.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=74303577
"t's got nothing to do with the cable being hard wearing. Turn phone on and plug in nothing happens. Turn phone off and plug in it charges no bother. Smart arses aren't so smart. The chip in the charger must stop responding or whatever they have done to make this charger "special" which prevented Asian copycats for a few months."
I think theres's three chips one in a charger, one in the cable and one in the phone that don't play well together. I'd certainly say Rich Old lady Apple swallowed a fly on this one, it rickles and tickles the customers, especially those with the 5.
Will the iPhone 6 switch to standard USB with standard voltage regulators too?
Does the standards world really have any catching up to do? It appears not.
People are going through 5 cables, 3 chargers etc etc. ANd that is when the iPhone 5 will actually charge.
It is quite funny on that forum. Seems if you have a lot of 'points' then you have a tendency to tell the customer it is all their fault.
I ask you again people, which is the better charger to use? The one costing 65 cents that consistently and reliably charges the Iphone 5 with no problems, or Apple's $25-$40 charger that continually cuts off charging, breaks, and is completely unreliable."
(from that same link)
BTW I'm still left puzzled whether non Apple chargers are to blame for the ICs inside the iPhone 5 breaking, so whatever you use to charge a 5, it does looks a gamble in this non standards Apple world.
While I agree I don't think there's any conspiracy theory over cables. Apple didn't invent the magnetic connector. Been used for years in Japanese rice cookers and deep fat fryers to avoid spills.
Whilst apple took it in a new direction they didn't invent it. But did make a connection between rice cookers and computers
http://www.director.co.uk/ONLINE/2010/09_10_innovation_secrets_of_steve_jobs.html
Thankfully it's a cheapo from Amazon and not a stupidly expensive apple one.
Nobody seems to be able to make a decent lightening cable one that actually lasts.
If you think lightning cables are bad, you should have a look at the Macbook chargers. Absolutely appalling and break 10x faster.
No. It's 5 apple cables and one amazon.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5016869
A correction for the missing link. (charger) I'm sure some of you spotted my circular copy and paste error.
I don't use my 1 amp charger, theres a slow 450mah one I have from my MiFi I use for near everything.
That made me smile, a very good description. Mine has had that for more than a year now and still seems to be going strong. Although I'm fairly careful with my cables.
Charging your iPad with a 500mah charger will take forever. An iPad draws 2 amps.
And likely it doubles the lifespan by reducing the dendrite build up by generating no internal waste heat.