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    Weigh-ManWeigh-Man Posts: 2,132
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    The whippets and Flat caps thing always bugs me, I have lived in Yorkshire my whole life and have never seen anyone with a Whippet, flat cap or ferrets.:confused:
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    HogzillaHogzilla Posts: 24,116
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    Weigh-Man wrote: »
    The whippets and Flat caps thing always bugs me, I have lived in Yorkshire my whole life and have never seen anyone with a Whippet, flat cap or ferrets.:confused:

    I wear a flat at sometimes but then I'll put owt on me ead.
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    You_moYou_mo Posts: 11,334
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    At least you don't get people 'impersonating' you by running around in a ginger wig shouting 'och aye the nuuuuuu'. :D
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    HogzillaHogzilla Posts: 24,116
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    You_mo wrote: »
    At least you don't get people 'impersonating' you by running around in a ginger wig shouting 'och aye the nuuuuuu'. :D

    Ah but you did Rab C Nesbitt yourselves.;)
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    lemoncurdlemoncurd Posts: 57,778
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    You_mo wrote: »
    At least you don't get people 'impersonating' you by running around in a ginger wig shouting 'och aye the nuuuuuu'. :D

    I think as a rule of thumb, people should refrain from doing UK regional accents if they don't come from that area. For the people who do, it invariably sounds awful.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 25,366
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    I'm going down to the shop = I'm going down t' shop?

    Can t' replace to and the?
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    cosmocosmo Posts: 26,840
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    Go down t'road and drink ten pints
    I get really plastered
    Go back home and beat up t'wife
    I'm a northern b@stard
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    I love EllieI love Ellie Posts: 8,009
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    Hogzilla wrote: »
    Spot the Southerner.:D

    Wrong, actually! :D
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    HogzillaHogzilla Posts: 24,116
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    Gilbertoo wrote: »
    I'm going down to the shop = I'm going down t' shop?

    Can t' replace to and the?

    There is no definite article in Yorkshire dialect, or rarely.

    So in Yorkshire, that's "I'm going down ' shops". "The" is dropped entirely, not ellided.
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    HogzillaHogzilla Posts: 24,116
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    Wrong, actually! :D

    Ah, fowk that sez that to 'be funny' are usually Southerners. :p
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 25,366
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    Hogzilla wrote: »
    There is no definite article in Yorkshire dialect, or rarely.

    So in Yorkshire, that's "I'm going down ' shops". "The" is dropped entirely, not ellided.

    But dropping 'the' entirely means that Yorkshire people are shortening "I'm going down to shops." which makes them sound a bit fick...:confused::p
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11,934
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    JethroUK wrote: »
    Grates with me when people impersonating yarkshire slang just throw in few (( 't )))s instead of word "the"

    Spent my childhood talking Yorkshire slang, they/we dont say the word "the" *at all* - it just doesn't exist in Yorkshire slang

    When they/we say ( t' ), it replaces "to" (not 'the')

    e.g.

    "Will you wash the car?" = "Will you wash car?" (see! no 'the' and no t')

    "I'm going to the shop" = "I'm going t' shop" (t' replaces 'to' not 'the' - we just dont say 'the' at all)


    Grrrrrrrrrrrrr

    Yeah, but you have a perceptible glottal stop between "wash" and "car" to indicate the missing article. The problem is that there is no real way of writing a glottal stop, so people resort to the misleading t'.
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    HogzillaHogzilla Posts: 24,116
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    Gilbertoo wrote: »
    But dropping 'the' entirely means that Yorkshire people are shortening "I'm going down to shops." which makes them sound a bit fick...:confused::p

    Nah,. "I'm going down ' shops". I wouldn't bother with the 'to', either, dunno about my fellow tykes. It's a big county and we have some different dialects across it.:)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 5,733
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    As "Billy Liar" once said... "I'm reet thraped..." :p

    Don't worry, Lancastrians and Cheshire-ites were irritated by Stuart Hall (and Eddie Waring) Not merely by their "It's a Knock Out" commentaries. ;)
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    HogzillaHogzilla Posts: 24,116
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    nitpick wrote: »
    As "Billy Liar" once said... "I'm reet thraped..." :p

    It's neether mickling nor muckling.
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    BZRBZR Posts: 2,197
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    giz a glass of watt-a am reet parched
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    You_moYou_mo Posts: 11,334
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    We should all stop mithering! (Is that from the right area?)
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    lemoncurdlemoncurd Posts: 57,778
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    You_mo wrote: »
    We should all stop mithering! (Is that from the right area?)

    Is "meithering" a northern word? :confused: I thought it was ubiquitous. Come to think of it, I can only think of people back home (Bolton) who use it regularly.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,570
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    depends where in yorkshire you go tbh, i grew up 4 or 5 miles from Barnsley and everyone there talks like "rayt cocker, am just off darnt road to chippie, will bi back for aif past."
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    excelentsexcelents Posts: 1,384
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    johnny_t wrote: »
    I know what you're saying.

    The main problem, I see, is that people try to pronounce 't'' as a word on its own, whereas it really just tags onto the word before.

    e.g 'I'm going down t'shops' is pronounced 'I'm going downt shops', not 'I'm going down tuh shops'.

    Well being from Barnsley I usually get away with "I'm gunna shop" lol
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    BZRBZR Posts: 2,197
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    the party is on eight while ten
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    HogzillaHogzilla Posts: 24,116
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    Whet's tha laikin at?
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    ChasingSundaysChasingSundays Posts: 550
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    I never really thought about how i spoke until i read this thread but i have now realised i dont really use ''the '' when i speak either.
    I just tend to say im off down shop or whatever.
    Why say words and waste your breath if you dont need to.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 376
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    Hogzilla wrote: »
    There is no definite article in Yorkshire dialect, or rarely.

    So in Yorkshire, that's "I'm going down ' shops". "The" is dropped entirely, not ellided.

    But there's a glottal stop for "the", isn't there?
    I'm a Yorkshirewoman. Before I became an honorary Brummie (MUCH better accent, I don't care if everyone else disagrees :D), I never made no sound at all for "the" - there was always the glottal.
    flobadob wrote: »
    Yeah, but you have a perceptible glottal stop between "wash" and "car" to indicate the missing article. The problem is that there is no real way of writing a glottal stop, so people resort to the misleading t'.

    TRUE! Maybe some people can't hear the glottal, I dunno. I've never heard any Yorkshire person fail to make SOME sound where a "the" should be.
    Scott_P wrote: »
    depends where in yorkshire you go tbh, i grew up 4 or 5 miles from Barnsley and everyone there talks like "rayt cocker, am just off darnt road to chippie, will bi back for aif past."

    Also true! I grew up in Barnsley. It'd be "...to <glottal stop> chippie..." though. :p
    excelents wrote: »
    Well being from Barnsley I usually get away with "I'm gunna shop" lol

    I heard people in Barnsley say "I'm gunna <glottal stop> shop". I spent like 16 years growing up there. :)
    Hogzilla wrote: »
    Whet's tha laikin at?

    Haven't heard laking in years!
    I never really thought about how i spoke until i read this thread but i have now realised i dont really use ''the '' when i speak either.
    I just tend to say im off down shop or whatever.
    Why say words and waste your breath if you dont need to.

    There's no noise from the back of your throat before the word "shop", if you think about it?
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    HogzillaHogzilla Posts: 24,116
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    But there's a glottal stop for "the", isn't there?
    I'm a Yorkshirewoman. Before I became an honorary Brummie (MUCH better accent, I don't care if everyone else disagrees :D), I never made no sound at all for "the" - there was always the glottal.



    TRUE! Maybe some people can't hear the glottal, I dunno. I've never heard any Yorkshire person fail to make SOME sound where a "the" should be.



    Also true! I grew up in Barnsley. It'd be "...to <glottal stop> chippie..." though. :p



    I heard people in Barnsley say "I'm gunna <glottal stop> shop". I spent like 16 years growing up there. :)



    Haven't heard laking in years!



    There's no noise from the back of your throat before the word "shop", if you think about it?

    Yes, there is a glottal stop but other people had already made that point so, in typical laconic Yorkshire fashion, I din't bother.:D

    Ah I hear laikin, but only from fowk my age or older. The kids don't say it round here. I feel sad that our dialect will die out with this generation, I think.
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