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The Ratings Thread (Part 13)

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    Desert RatDesert Rat Posts: 3,685
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    D.M.N. wrote: »
    And some other figures of some interest that haven't yet been noted here:

    Friday 5th November 2010
    BBC Breakfast vs ITV Daybreak
    06:00 - 0.6m (35.2%) vs 0.3m (21.9%)
    06:15 - 0.8m (37.4%) vs 0.4m (18.8%)
    06:30 - 0.8m (32.6%) vs 0.5m (19.9%)
    06:45 - 1.0m (32.6%) vs 0.6m (20.7%)
    07:00 - 1.2m (30.6%) vs 0.8m (20.2%)
    07:15 - 1.6m (30.9%) vs 1.0m (19.3%)
    07:30 - 1.7m (28.7%) vs 1.1m (18.0%)
    07:45 - 1.8m (27.1%) vs 1.2m (17.8%)
    08:00 - 1.7m (25.2%) vs 1.3m (19.2%)
    08:15 - 1.8m (27.3%) vs 1.2m (19.0%)
    08:30 - 1.6m (28.5%) vs 1.1m (20.5%)

    The proof of what they need to do is right there. GMTV used to follow a similar pattern but had Lorraine tagged on the end which boosted the overall average quite considerably. I think its worth them bringing back the Newshour and Daybreak running 7-8.30am. Based on those figures, it would give them overall ratings of 0.5m (vs 0.8m), 1m for Daybreak (vs 1.6m) and 1m for Lorraine. That would definitely save them some face and when looking at it like that, the difference isn't actually that significant overall.
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    JetsonJetson Posts: 13,318
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    D.M.N. wrote: »
    I'm a Celebrity... Provisional Scheduling
    02/12 - 20:30 to 22:00 --> Coronation Street on at 20:00 (Friday 1st)
    That's a Thursday - where is Emmerdale?
    03/12 - 20:30 to 22:00 --> Coronation Street on at 19:30 (Friday 2nd)
    The schedules confuse me - does this mean Corrie loses some episodes, presumably to make up in the anniversary week?
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    jake lylejake lyle Posts: 6,146
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    Desert Rat wrote: »
    . I think its worth them bringing back the Newshour and Daybreak running 7-8.30am. Based on those figures, it would give them overall ratings of 0.5m (vs 0.8m), 1m for Daybreak (vs 1.6m) and 1m for Lorraine. That would definitely save them some face .

    And hope that the BBC is having a strike every day:D
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    D.M.N.D.M.N. Posts: 34,172
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    James J wrote: »
    That's a Thursday - where is Emmerdale?

    One hour long from 19:00 to 20:00.
    James J wrote: »
    The schedules confuse me - does this mean Corrie loses some episodes, presumably to make up in the anniversary week?

    It loses no episodes - hence why I've indicated next to the Corrie bits where the episodes would normally be (ie. Monday 1st episode or Friday 2nd etc)
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    GeorgeSGeorgeS Posts: 20,039
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    Desert Rat wrote: »
    The proof of what they need to do is right there. GMTV used to follow a similar pattern but had Lorraine tagged on the end which boosted the overall average quite considerably. I think its worth them bringing back the Newshour and Daybreak running 7-8.30am. Based on those figures, it would give them overall ratings of 0.5m (vs 0.8m), 1m for Daybreak (vs 1.6m) and 1m for Lorraine. That would definitely save them some face and when looking at it like that, the difference isn't actually that significant overall.

    Thats just fiddling the figures though! :eek: The real long term aim has to be to improve the demographic mix and total audience across the full 3.5 hours
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    rztrzt Posts: 21,363
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    Just to confirm, Sunday's Strictly Come Dancing had 10.2m (36.6%) including HD. Not 10.57m which was initially thought.

    Breakdown was:

    19.30 10.1m 36.9%
    19.45 10.3m 36.3%

    It was still the most watched results show of the series so far, up 80k from the previous week's results show.
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    Desert RatDesert Rat Posts: 3,685
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    jake lyle wrote: »
    And hope that the BBC is having a strike every day:D

    I didn't see that, I thought it was yesterdays :o. But even so, Fridays didn't rate too differently to most other days.
    GeorgeS wrote: »
    Thats just fiddling the figures though! :eek: The real long term aim has to be to improve the demographic mix and total audience across the full 3.5 hours

    Its clear from the breakdown that the problem is the 6-7am hour and ITV are stuck inbetween a rock and a hard place because their core audience for news won't be awake at that time and noone will wake up just to watch a TV show. It would probably be cheaper for them just to run rolling news from 6-7am whether under ITV News or Daybreak branding and focus attention on ironing out the main part of the show.
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    MandyBudMandyBud Posts: 170
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    jde-tv wrote: »
    I think the OP was just saying the exit was better... nothing really to do with ratings. What did that EE episode get btw?
    10.09m on BBC1 plus a further 1.16m on BBC3 so in ratings terms it does come out on top. It is unreasonable to compare the exits as Jack has been a character in Corrie for 30 years and while 16 years is a long time for any actor to be in a soap (Babs) it's only just over half that.
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    GeorgeSGeorgeS Posts: 20,039
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    Desert Rat wrote: »
    Its clear from the breakdown that the problem is the 6-7am hour and ITV are stuck inbetween a rock and a hard place because their core audience for news won't be awake at that time and noone will wake up just to watch a TV show. It would probably be cheaper for them just to run rolling news from 6-7am whether under ITV News or Daybreak branding and focus attention on ironing out the main part of the show.

    They could run the ITV morning news from 6-7am instead of from 5.30 to 6 quiet easily I suppose and put on some filer from 5am instead. I suppose this might fall foul of Ofcom though?
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    Sun!Sun! Posts: 1,058
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    GeorgeS wrote: »
    They could run the ITV morning news from 6-7am instead of from 5.30 to 6 quiet easily I suppose and put on some filer from 5am instead. I suppose this might fall foul of Ofcom though?

    They could also easily run ITV News from 5.30-6.30am just by essentially repeating it again. Daybreak starting at 6.30, then add Lorraine and Daybreaks ratings together on BARB, it may get around 1.1/1.2 million daily saving ITV a lot of face.
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    Sun! wrote: »
    They could also easily run ITV News from 5.30-6.30am just by essentially repeating it again. Daybreak starting at 6.30, then add Lorraine and Daybreaks ratings together on BARB, it may get around 1.1/1.2 million daily saving ITV a lot of face.

    The ITV News at 5.30 is essentially a repeat of the previous night's News at Ten with a bit of NBC Nightly News thrown in and a review of the papers.Reports often refer to ''today'' when they actually mean yesterday.ITV would need to put in more resources (which means more money)to make it look anything like an up-to-date news programme.
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    D.M.N.D.M.N. Posts: 34,172
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    One more Sunday rating:

    11:15 - The FA Cup Live: 0.9m (9.2%)

    I won't describe that rating, but I'm sure Robbie will pop along later with a few words of his own to describe the above!
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    BigOrangeBigOrange Posts: 59,678
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    D.M.N. wrote: »
    One more Sunday rating:

    11:15 - The FA Cup Live: 0.9m (9.2%)

    I won't describe that rating, but I'm sure Robbie will pop along later with a few words of his own to describe the above!
    The game of the weekend was actually on ESPN on Friday night.
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    GeorgeSGeorgeS Posts: 20,039
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    D.M.N. wrote: »
    One more Sunday rating:

    11:15 - The FA Cup Live: 0.9m (9.2%)

    I won't describe that rating, but I'm sure Robbie will pop along later with a few words of his own to describe the above!

    what were you expecting? I think thats a reasonable rating given the start time and the teams involved.
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    rzt wrote: »
    Just to confirm, Sunday's Strictly Come Dancing had 10.2m (36.6%) including HD. Not 10.57m which was initially thought.

    So where did Broadcast get its figures from? Even if it should have said 'including' and not 'additional', they still appear to have received separate figures for HD.
    Rival knock-out entertainment show Strictly Come Dancing roped in 10.2m (36.6%) on BBC1 from 7.30pm to 8pm. An additional 369,500 (1.42%) watched the BBC HD simulcast as Jimi Mistry was voted off.

    http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings/downton-abbey-ends-on-10m/5020347.article
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    BigOrangeBigOrange Posts: 59,678
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    As I explained yesterday, the 369k could well be the number watching the BBC HD channel at that time (not BBC One HD) i.e. Broadcast was mistakenly adding HD when it was already included.

    Alternatively Broadcast have access to SD/HD breakdowns for BBC One and the 369k is actually the number out of the 10.2m that watched Strictly on BBC One HD.
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    mlt11mlt11 Posts: 21,100
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    D.M.N. wrote: »
    The 5.1m rating for Brazil is actually the lowest Brazil rating since 2006. (in 2008, it had 8.8m)

    Didn't the race start earlier than normal this year (as the clocks had gone back)?

    It started at 4pm this year whereas I seem to recall it starting at 5pm or even 6pm in some recent years.

    Rating would also have been affected a bit by Liverpool v Chelsea on Sky (which got 1.8m per your post).

    Later start time has two advantages - more towards prime-time + avoids a football clash (partially if 5pm start, completely if 6pm start).
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    BigOrangeBigOrange Posts: 59,678
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    MasterChef Australia is continuing to grow its audience in the UK.

    Officials w/e 31st October
    NEW MASTERCHEF AUSTRALIA (WED 1900) 233,000
    NEW MASTERCHEF AUSTRALIA (MON 1859) 192,000
    NEW MASTERCHEF AUSTRALIA (TUE 1859) 170,000
    NEW MASTERCHEF AUSTRALIA (THU 1859) 137,000

    Not bad for small pay TV station Watch, although it seems to fluctuate quite a bit from day to day.

    On a Freeview channel it could be bringing in around 300,000+ per episode IMO.
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    Georged123Georged123 Posts: 5,764
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    D.M.N. wrote: »
    The 5.1m rating for Brazil is actually the lowest Brazil rating since 2006. (in 2008, it had 8.8m)
    Lots of reasons why though. Not the last race on the calendar, chances of a British world champion faded and earlier start time.
    jde-tv wrote: »
    I think the OP was just saying the exit was better... nothing really to do with ratings. What did that EE episode get btw?
    I dont mean to split hairs but this is a ratings thread. ;)
    MandyBud wrote: »
    10.09m on BBC1 plus a further 1.16m on BBC3 so in ratings terms it does come out on top. It is unreasonable to compare the exits as Jack has been a character in Corrie for 30 years and while 16 years is a long time for any actor to be in a soap (Babs) it's only just over half that.
    And the fact most people knew Jack was to die was going to put bums on seats. It was obvious that Peggy wasnt going to die after the Thursday episode and so some lost interest.
    D.M.N. wrote: »
    One more Sunday rating:

    11:15 - The FA Cup Live: 0.9m (9.2%)

    I won't describe that rating, but I'm sure Robbie will pop along later with a few words of his own to describe the above!
    Thats just awful.
    GeorgeS wrote: »
    what were you expecting? I think thats a reasonable rating given the start time and the teams involved.
    Not much more as live ITV football is always low but under 1m for an FA Cup game is poor. The FA contract is just a joke considering how little return ITV gets.

    Any idea what ratings the BBC got for the Cardiff - Swansea game. And how much the BBC paid for that contract?
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    PizzatheactionPizzatheaction Posts: 20,157
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    D.M.N. wrote: »
    As rumoured yesterday, the following is confirmed:

    Thursday 25th November 2010
    19:00 - Emmerdale
    20:00 - I'm a Celebrity...
    21:00 - Coronation Street
    21:30 - I'm a Celebrity...
    22:00 - ITV News a Ten

    This is to avoid Coronation Street clashing with EastEnders.
    I suggested spliting Celeb on the same Thursday last year (or running it from 9pm until 10.30).

    Good to see ITV taking my advice. ;)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,980
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    D.M.N. wrote: »
    As rumoured yesterday, the following is confirmed:

    Thursday 25th November 2010
    19:00 - Emmerdale
    20:00 - I'm a Celebrity...
    21:00 - Coronation Street
    21:30 - I'm a Celebrity...
    22:00 - ITV News a Ten

    This is to avoid Coronation Street clashing with EastEnders.

    News at Ten is dropped from the Friday schedule to make way for a 90 minute edition of I'm a Celebrity.

    I'm a Celebrity... Provisional Scheduling
    27/11 - 21:30 to 22:30
    28/11 - 21:00 to 22:30
    29/11 - 20:30 to 22:00 --> Coronation Street 2nd episode bumped
    30/11 - 20:30 to 22:00 --> New You've Been Framed! on at 20:00
    01/12 - 20:30 to 22:00 --> Coronation Street double-bill on from 19:30 to 20:30 (Monday 2nd and Thursday)
    02/12 - 20:30 to 22:00 --> Coronation Street on at 20:00 (Friday 1st)
    03/12 - 20:30 to 22:00 --> Coronation Street on at 19:30 (Friday 2nd)

    All Star Family Fortunes takes The Cube's slot from 28th November at 19:15.

    Quite mad at ITV if the above scheduling turns out to be true. The last thing that Coronation Street needs in my view is to be thrown around the schedule.

    Provisional schedules for 4th December will be out by the end of the week which will make for interesting reading.

    I actually think it's pretty good scheduling there by ITV. Sandwiching Corrie between IAC shows they don't want Corrie dented by EE, just a couple of weeks before the big celebrations and it should boost both shows, apart from the obvious dent EE will put into IAC. A shame they are only doing this for one week though.

    As a compromise for the EE clash, IAC is getting the best slot of the week starting at 8.30pm on Monday, taking Corrie's traditional best rating slot, but Corrie on a Wednesday at 7.30pm shouldn't perform too bad and the 8pm episode should perform better than a Thursday/Friday episode would rate.

    Also it seems NaT will only be dropped on the Friday, which is good and doesn't cause too much of a problem. The only issue for Emmerdale is the EE clash, but it's EE that always comes off worse during the clashes anyway.

    I'm glad The Cube is being replaced with ASFF-the episodes currently being aired are being wasted and I hope they will be repeated in primetime sometime.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,280
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    Link: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/11/09/sunday-finals-desperate-housewives-adjusted-up-brothers-sisters-cleveland-show-adjusted-down-plus-final-cbs-nbc-numbers/71366

    ABC:
    America’s Funniest Home Videos
    - 7.713 million viewers
    - 4.4/7 HH
    - 1.6/4 A18-49

    Extreme Makeover Home Edition
    - 9.330 million viewers
    - 5.5/8 HH
    - 2.5/6 A18-49

    Desperate Housewives (61 minutes)
    - 12.716 million viewers
    - 7.8/12 HH
    - 4.1/10 A18-49

    Brothers & Sisters (59 minutes)
    - 8.702 million viewers
    - 5.9/10 HH
    - 2.5/7 A18-49

    CBS:
    CBS NFL Sunday (4:32pm, 200 minutes, 99% coverage CBS normally 98%)
    - 27.789 million viewers
    - 16.3/29 HH
    - 9.6/30 A18-49

    60 Minutes (8:07pm)
    - 15.146 million viewers
    - 9.3/14 HH
    - 3.3/8 A18-49

    The Amazing Race (9:07pm)
    - 11.013 million viewers
    - 6.5/10 HH
    - 3.3/8 A18-49

    Undercover Boss (10:07pm)
    - 11.039 million viewers
    - 6.8/12 HH
    - 2.9/8 A18-49

    NBC:
    Football Night in America Part 2 (7:30pm, 25 minutes)
    - 3.175 million viewers
    - 2.1/3 HH
    - 1.0/3 A18-49

    Football Night in America Part 3 (7:55pm, 27 minutes)
    - 9.766 million viewers
    - 5.8/9 HH
    - 3.4/9 A18-49

    Pre-Kick (8:22pm, 9 minutes)
    - 16.043 million viewers
    - 9.4/15 HH
    - 5.8/15 A18-49

    Sunday Night Football (8:31pm, 166 minutes)
    - 19.368 million viewers
    - 11.6/19 HH
    - 7.4/18 A18-49

    FOX:
    The Simpsons (7:59pm, 31 minutes)
    - 8.034 million viewers
    - 4.4/7 HH
    - 3.7/9 A18-49

    The Cleveland Show
    - 6.684 million viewers
    - 3.7/6 HH
    - 3.0/7 A18-49

    Family Guy (31 minutes)
    - 8.002 million viewers
    - 4.6/7 HH
    - 3.8/9 A18-49

    American Dad (29 minutes)
    - 6.297 million viewers
    - 3.8/6 HH
    - 2.9/7 A18-49
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,280
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    Link: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/11/09/conan-premiere-averages-4-2-million-viewers-2-5-adults-18-49-rating/71374

    Conan O'Brien's new talk show, Conan, debuted with 4.2m with a 2.5 ratings in 18-49 demo. Strong debut, especially in the demo, considering the show airs in basic cable and at 11pm.
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    C14EC14E Posts: 32,165
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    paltonz wrote: »
    Link: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/11/09/conan-premiere-averages-4-2-million-viewers-2-5-adults-18-49-rating/71374

    Conan O'Brien's new talk show, Conan, debuted with 4.2m with a 2.5 ratings in 18-49 demo. Strong debut, especially in the demo, considering the show airs in basic cable and at 11pm.

    Total Viewers:
    Conan - 4.2m
    Jay Leno - 3.5m
    David Letterman - 3.4m
    Lopez Tonight - 1.4m
    Jon Stewart - 1.3m

    Adults 18-49:
    Conan - 3,285,000
    David Letterman - 1,336,000
    Jay Leno - 952,000
    Lopez Tonight - 883,000
    Daily Show - 687,000

    Median Age:
    Conan - 30
    Lopez Tonight - 32
    Daily Show - 38
    David Letterman - 53
    Jay Leno - 59

    Conan & Jon Stewart start at 11pm. Jon Stewart is just 30 minutes. Conan runs for the full hour. Lopez scored his highest ever ratings despite moving to midnight. Both Letterman & Leno start at 11.35pm.
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    excel99excel99 Posts: 744
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    Anyone know what The Daily Politics and GMT normally get on BBC2? Thanks
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