And if it turns out Mr Dewani did plot his wife's murder???
Thanks, but I'll wait till his version of events is thoroughly tested in a SA court of law, leading either to the judge exonerating Dewani from all charges or convicting him for murder. :)
No no, do try to pay attention, the adults are speaking OK ?
Probably because Asian females are considered as mere chattels by their husbands, brothers and Fathers, a possession to be killed, strangled, raped, burned, eviscerated and buried alive as they see fit.
What total utter claptrap. Thankfully, I've never met anyone with such a horrifically inaccurate view.
And if it turns out Mr Dewani did plot his wife's murder???
Thanks, but I'll wait till his version of events is thoroughly tested in a SA court of law, leading either to the judge exonerating Dewani from all charges or convicting him for murder. :)
If he did plot her murder then hopefully this will be proven and he will go away for a long time. If he did not, he should be exonerated and free to go to live the rest of his life.
Whatever happened, it does not take away our right to discuss it
If he did plot her murder then hopefully this will be proven and he will go away for a long time. If he did not, he should be exonerated and free to go to live the rest of his life.
Whatever happened, it does not take away our right to discuss it
Yes, I agree with your closing point. The reported criminal activity and, legal developments of this case do seem to be both fascinating and appalling. I'm sure the outcome of Mr Dewani's court case will become another topic of discussion on Digital Spy.
It now appears that the Dewani's 'honeymoon' vacation in South Africa could not have been their honeymoon. This is because it's now being alleged that the couple's 'marriage ceremony', which took place in Mumbai (India), was never officially registered.
Furthermore, Mr Dewani's conduct, both before and after the 'wedding', is coming under increasing scrutiny from particular relatives and friends of Anni Dewani situated in India, Sweden and beyond.
In an obvious reference to Mr Dewani, national police commissioner Bheki Cele reportedly said:
''One monkey came from London to kill his wife here. He thought we South Africans were stupid. Don't kill people here.''
I think Cele uses the word 'monkey' to describe Dewani because he believes that Dewani:
(a) orchestrated the murder of his bride Anni and;
(b) deliberately tried to 'make a monkey out of South Africa's police and judicial system' by covering up the murder with an elaborate fake carjacking and, returning to Britain shortly thereafter. Once back in Britain Mr Dewani would be outside the legal jurisdiction of South Africa.
So, essentially it looks as though Mr Cebe employed the term monkey to highlight what he regards as Mr Dewani's stupidity, imo.
No no, do try to pay attention, the adults are speaking OK ?
Probably because Asian females are considered as mere chattels by their husbands, brothers and Fathers, a possession to be killed, strangled, raped, burned, eviscerated and buried alive as they see fit.
the only suitable response to this post that i can think of is.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
According to the latests reports, SA investigators want to ask Mr Dewani if he is gay. The implication here, is that if it transpires that Mr Dewani is, in fact, gay the SA authorities may consider this (concealed sexuality issue) to be a motive for the murder.
According to a report by IOL News SA, the Dewani 'monkey' slur may rock the case.
Quote:
''...national police commissioner General Bheki Cele, who is black, is understood to have used ''monkey'' to denote bad behaviour rather than a deliberate racial slur. But there were claims his words will fuel tensions between black South Africans and the country's large Asian community, which plays a key role in the nation's economy.''
''A friend of Dewani said the outburst showed there was ''little hope'' the 30-year-old.......would get a fair trial in South Africa.''
He said ''what chance has Shrien got of justice when the chief of police is calling him a monkey?''
According to the latests reports, SA investigators want to ask Mr Dewani if he is gay. The implication here, is that if it transpires that Mr Dewani is, in fact, gay the SA authorities may consider this (concealed sexuality issue) to be a motive for the murder.
have you got a link to some other investigative journalism on this issue than the sun?
Hi Dirona, I've just done a quick google search and did find 2 other news outlet (News24, South Africa and Indian Express.com) reporting on this issue. However, they both make it very clear that the Sun is the source of their information.
The Sun may have secured an exclusive interview re: this issue. Sorry.
Hi Dirona, I've just done a quick google search and did discover another news outlet (News24, South Africa) reporting on this issue. However, News24, South Africa, makes it very clear that the Sun is the source of their information. Sorry.
According to a report by IOL News SA, the Dewani 'monkey' slur may rock the case.
Quote:
''...national police commissioner General Bheki Cele, who is black, is understood to have used ''monkey'' to denote bad behaviour rather than a deliberate racial slur. But there were claims his words will fuel tensions between black South Africans and the country's large Asian community, which plays a key role in the nation's economy.''
''A friend of Dewani said the outburst showed there was ''little hope'' the 30-year-old.......would get a fair trial in South Africa.''
He said ''what chance has Shrien got of justice when the chief of police is calling him a monkey?''
I would have thought Shrien, if innocent, would prefer to have the opportunity to demonstrate this in the eyes of the world, rather than try to use this black police officer's use of slang as leverage to avoid appearing in court and clearing his name.
I find it odd that people are so willing to take holidays in countries where they believe the justice system is corrupt. I wouldn't feel safe doing so, myself.
Think its quite obvious that if Mr Dewani is extradited to South Africa then he will be found guilty of conspiracy to murder, no matter what (if any) involvement he had.
Think its quite obvious that if Mr Dewani is extradited to South Africa then he will be found guilty of conspiracy to murder, no matter what (if any) involvement he had.
Exactly my opinion. The last thing he would want to do is go back to South Africa with their corrupt federel system.
Is there any sensible suggestion as to why he would be meeting the taxi driver who admitted to conspiring to kill his wife... before and after the murder?
surely is this is all on CCTV with packages of money exchanged, this is pretty much sealed for his fate.
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And if it turns out Mr Dewani did plot his wife's murder???
Thanks, but I'll wait till his version of events is thoroughly tested in a SA court of law, leading either to the judge exonerating Dewani from all charges or convicting him for murder.
What total utter claptrap. Thankfully, I've never met anyone with such a horrifically inaccurate view.
If he did plot her murder then hopefully this will be proven and he will go away for a long time. If he did not, he should be exonerated and free to go to live the rest of his life.
Whatever happened, it does not take away our right to discuss it
Was she crying on the way there too?
......... come to that - did you?
Yes, I agree with your closing point. The reported criminal activity and, legal developments of this case do seem to be both fascinating and appalling. I'm sure the outcome of Mr Dewani's court case will become another topic of discussion on Digital Spy.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1337121/Honeymoon-murder-Shrien-Dewani-monkey-say-South-African-police.html
Furthermore, Mr Dewani's conduct, both before and after the 'wedding', is coming under increasing scrutiny from particular relatives and friends of Anni Dewani situated in India, Sweden and beyond.
Full report here www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1335537/Bride-Anni-Dewani-murdered-South-African-honeymoon-officially-married.html
Yes, I've just seen the statement in question.
In an obvious reference to Mr Dewani, national police commissioner Bheki Cele reportedly said:
''One monkey came from London to kill his wife here. He thought we South Africans were stupid. Don't kill people here.''
I think Cele uses the word 'monkey' to describe Dewani because he believes that Dewani:
(a) orchestrated the murder of his bride Anni and;
(b) deliberately tried to 'make a monkey out of South Africa's police and judicial system' by covering up the murder with an elaborate fake carjacking and, returning to Britain shortly thereafter. Once back in Britain Mr Dewani would be outside the legal jurisdiction of South Africa.
So, essentially it looks as though Mr Cebe employed the term monkey to highlight what he regards as Mr Dewani's stupidity, imo.
Source: www.capetimes.co.za/?fSectionId=3531&fArticleId=1.999413&fFeed=region_42
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
According to the latests reports, SA investigators want to ask Mr Dewani if he is gay. The implication here, is that if it transpires that Mr Dewani is, in fact, gay the SA authorities may consider this (concealed sexuality issue) to be a motive for the murder.
Read on if you dare: www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3269888/Cops-probing-murder-of-honeymoon-wife-to-ask-husband-Shrien-if-he-is-gay.html
According to a report by IOL News SA, the Dewani 'monkey' slur may rock the case.
Quote:
''...national police commissioner General Bheki Cele, who is black, is understood to have used ''monkey'' to denote bad behaviour rather than a deliberate racial slur. But there were claims his words will fuel tensions between black South Africans and the country's large Asian community, which plays a key role in the nation's economy.''
''A friend of Dewani said the outburst showed there was ''little hope'' the 30-year-old.......would get a fair trial in South Africa.''
He said ''what chance has Shrien got of justice when the chief of police is calling him a monkey?''
www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/dewani-monkey-slur-rocks-case-1.999750
have you got a link to some other investigative journalism on this issue than the sun?
Plenty out there
i was talking about the particular issue ying yang brought up in the post i quoted not every ruddy issue on the case!:p
Hi Dirona, I've just done a quick google search and did find 2 other news outlet (News24, South Africa and Indian Express.com) reporting on this issue. However, they both make it very clear that the Sun is the source of their information.
The Sun may have secured an exclusive interview re: this issue. Sorry.
If you're interested here's a link to the News24, SA report. www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Shrien-Dewani-now-faces-gay-rumours-20101210
Link to Indian Express www.indianexpress.com/news/--I-m-not-secretly-gay----Anni-Dewani--s-husband/722977
thanks ying yang, but again it's the sun!
I would have thought Shrien, if innocent, would prefer to have the opportunity to demonstrate this in the eyes of the world, rather than try to use this black police officer's use of slang as leverage to avoid appearing in court and clearing his name.
I find it odd that people are so willing to take holidays in countries where they believe the justice system is corrupt. I wouldn't feel safe doing so, myself.
BEFORE and AFTER the murder.
Case closed, your honour ...?
Not a chance he will get bail now.
Exactly my opinion. The last thing he would want to do is go back to South Africa with their corrupt federel system.
Yep. The "after the murder" footage (if true) would be pretty compelling evidence that he was complicit in her murder.
surely is this is all on CCTV with packages of money exchanged, this is pretty much sealed for his fate.