The difference between proprietary and open is this. It's bit like you have a prize Bulldog bitch. One owner (Apple) makes sure that it select its mate very carefully to produce the best puppies possible. With an Open System you let the dog run around the neighbourhood in the rather optimistic hope that a suitable mate will be found and good puppies will be the result. The wishful thinking is impressive, the common sense is not. :rolleyes:
Using that analagy I'd say its more like proprietary being the bulldogs owner (apple) only allowing it to mate with a specific bulldog bloodline, wheras open source would allow it to mate with any pedigree bulldog to possibly produce even better puppies as there'd be more choice;)
Using that analagy I'd say its more like proprietary being the bulldogs owner (apple) only allowing it to mate with a specific bulldog bloodline, wheras open source would allow it to mate with any pedigree bulldog to possibly produce even better puppies as there'd be more choice;)
Yes, you could get something that was a nice as Apple chooses, but in my experience that is very, very rare.
After wandering into PC World the other week they had a lineup of a good dozen netbooks.
Not one of them was 11.6" with my conclusion being PC World insist in buying old and cheap and selling high.
You're dead right PC World are just box shifters. Knowledge of the products they are flogging is notoriously weak too. I was once told by one of them that any equipment with a blue LED on it was bluetooth enabled. I kid you not !
Using that analagy I'd say its more like proprietary being the bulldogs owner (apple) only allowing it to mate with a specific bulldog bloodline, wheras open source would allow it to mate with any pedigree bulldog to possibly produce even better puppies as there'd be more choice;)
Unless it mates with a stray and you end up with something worth very little
You're dead right PC World are just box shifters. Knowledge of the products they are flogging is notoriously weak too. I was once told by one of them that any equipment with a blue LED on it was bluetooth enabled. I kid you not !
You mean its not :eek:
But my electric toothbrush has a blue light and I was going to use my ipad to control it :mad:
You're dead right PC World are just box shifters. Knowledge of the products they are flogging is notoriously weak too. I was once told by one of them that any equipment with a blue LED on it was bluetooth enabled. I kid you not !
I seriously hope are joking. Of course you have to be. No shop assistants could be that misguided, shirley.
Gotta love how tablets have been around for years without really taking off outside professional circles and then only in certain industries, then Apple releases one, and suddenly it's the new, Apple created, revolutionary in thing.
It's because Apple understands consumers and what they want, as well as what they need. Apple is also expert at knowing what to put into a product and what to leave out.
Interesting to note that the Financial Times has just named Apple CEO Steve Jobs as Person of the Year and MarketWatch has named him CEO of the Decade.
The main market area for these devices are; Kids, people who travel long distances, and people who have money to waste...oh and news readers/TV hosts apparently...in that order.
The main market area for these devices are; Kids, people who travel long distances, and people who have money to waste...oh and news readers/TV hosts apparently...in that order.
If you look at it that is a rather arrogant statement. The current iPad isn't a device that I would buy, but for a large number of people it replaces the need for gaming devices, laptops and netbooks, media players and ebook readers.
Sounds like a pretty useful device for many. :rolleyes:
If you look at it that is a rather arrogant statement. The current iPad isn't a device that I would buy, but for a large number of people it replaces the need for gaming devices, laptops and netbooks, media players and ebook readers.
Sounds like a pretty useful device for many. :rolleyes:
Gaming devices? Really? The only things it could replace are the DS or PSP, which aren't that popular any more. Even still, Flash based games are still massively popular online, but the iPad can't play them. It can't compete against a PS2, let alone an Xbox 360, PS3 or Wii.
Gaming devices? Really? The only things it could replace are the DS or PSP, which aren't that popular any more. Even still, Flash based games are still massively popular online, but the iPad can't play them. It can't compete against a PS2, let alone an Xbox 360, PS3 or Wii.
No, some people prefer portable gaming so it would replace the consoles too and I don't recall saying anything about that moribund technology known as Flash. :rolleyes:
Gaming devices? Really? The only things it could replace are the DS or PSP, which aren't that popular any more. Even still, Flash based games are still massively popular online, but the iPad can't play them. It can't compete against a PS2, let alone an Xbox 360, PS3 or Wii.
Whilst I agree with the flash comment which does hinder it as a web based gaming device, the IPad is proving very popular with board game development and conversion to using the pad as the board and game engine, with talk of also being able to use IPhones as devices for holding your own hand of cards (or similar). Not a huge amount out yet, but a lot are in the pipeline.
No, some people prefer portable gaming so it would replace the consoles too and I don't recall saying anything about that moribund technology known as Flash. :rolleyes:
No, you didn't, I did...I mentioned it because no matter which way you slice it, not having Flash is a fundamental flaw in the device. A point which has been argued since it's launch, which people like you can't seem to understand why it is a flaw. Flash obviously has it's downsides, however a lot of the Internet is powered by Flash.
Portable gaming isn't as popular as you think. I commute a lot, and there aren't many people who use anything larger than a phone.
Tablets - not a new idea, not a new concept, Apple didn't think of it.
Touchscreen phones - not a new idea, not a new concept, Apple didn't think of it.
Hard-drive based MP3 players - not a new idea, not a new concept, Apple didn't think of it.
GUI operating systems - both MS and Apple stole this from Xerox.
Who is imitating Apple?
It is painfully obvious to all (except those with Apple-shaped rose tinted glasses) that the Gadget Show must receive backhanders from Apple. If Apple released a turd, it'd probably win gadget of the decade.
Hmmm... while Apple may not have invented the above, they certainly popularised them. iHaters are just as bad as iTards in my view. The people imitating Apple are all those vendors who either had something that wasn't as good, or those who are rushing out "me to" products.
To be fair, the gadget show is pretty unbiased IMO. They have often reviewed products where Apple products lost out to competitors. That iPad is gadget of the year I think is right.
But as I have a Mac myself I clearly am a fanboi and therefore you won't need to listen to a word I say...
No, you didn't, I did...I mentioned it because no matter which way you slice it, not having Flash is a fundamental flaw in the device. A point which has been argued since it's launch, which people like you can't seem to understand why it is a flaw. Flash obviously has it's downsides, however a lot of the Internet is powered by Flash.
Flash's presence is diminishing quickly. I would see not having Flash as a plus.
Hmmm... while Apple may not have invented the above, they certainly popularised them. iHaters are just as bad as iTards in my view. The people imitating Apple are all those vendors who either had something that wasn't as good, or those who are rushing out "me to" products.
Look for a rash of Tablet devices at CES and we can almost guarantee that consumers will never see them in the shops.
Correcting hat you said Apple gives the the consumer what Apple wants.
Marketing makes the consumer want it.
Users would not say no to Tegra 2, HDMI, an SD slot, standard bluetooth capabilities, a removable battery, 512MB memory(same as as the iPhone), tethering and USB host ability.
Correcting hat you said Apple gives the the consumer what Apple wants.
Marketing makes the consumer want it.
Users would not say no to Tegra 2, HDMI, an SD slot, standard bluetooth capabilities, a removable battery, 512MB memory(same as as the iPhone), tethering and USB host ability.
Tegra 2? No one Cares
Bluetooth? No one Cares
SD slot? No one Cares
removable battery? Would result in poorer performance.
HDMI? OK
Tethering? OK, but the American carriers would hate it.
Better Memory? OK
USB Host? OK
The ones at the bottom of the list may show up in iPad 2.
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Yes, it needs to turn around very quickly or Microsoft has another Kin on its hands.
I was in to PC World last night to drop off a used LaserJet cartridge.
They really don't have scoobys at how to sell anything and certainly not anything of quality.
Using that analagy I'd say its more like proprietary being the bulldogs owner (apple) only allowing it to mate with a specific bulldog bloodline, wheras open source would allow it to mate with any pedigree bulldog to possibly produce even better puppies as there'd be more choice;)
Yes, you could get something that was a nice as Apple chooses, but in my experience that is very, very rare.
You're dead right PC World are just box shifters. Knowledge of the products they are flogging is notoriously weak too. I was once told by one of them that any equipment with a blue LED on it was bluetooth enabled. I kid you not !
Unless it mates with a stray and you end up with something worth very little
You mean its not :eek:
But my electric toothbrush has a blue light and I was going to use my ipad to control it :mad:
I seriously hope are joking. Of course you have to be. No shop assistants could be that misguided, shirley.
Let's see it can be used for writing, doing presentations, emails, web browsing, applications, consuming media, e-reader.
Not really a toy in any way. Time to think out of the box. :rolleyes:
It is not the best at any of those things. It is an expensive way of doing all of those things. But it is very easy and convenient to use.
You also assume (and to be fair I think the other poster means it to be...) that calling something a toy is derogatory.
Few of us actually need a powerful computer.
Interesting to note that the Financial Times has just named Apple CEO Steve Jobs as Person of the Year and MarketWatch has named him CEO of the Decade.
Apple take 40% of global handset profits.
All can be said to be success stories.
If you look at it that is a rather arrogant statement. The current iPad isn't a device that I would buy, but for a large number of people it replaces the need for gaming devices, laptops and netbooks, media players and ebook readers.
Sounds like a pretty useful device for many. :rolleyes:
No, some people prefer portable gaming so it would replace the consoles too and I don't recall saying anything about that moribund technology known as Flash. :rolleyes:
Portable gaming isn't as popular as you think. I commute a lot, and there aren't many people who use anything larger than a phone.
Hmmm... while Apple may not have invented the above, they certainly popularised them. iHaters are just as bad as iTards in my view. The people imitating Apple are all those vendors who either had something that wasn't as good, or those who are rushing out "me to" products.
To be fair, the gadget show is pretty unbiased IMO. They have often reviewed products where Apple products lost out to competitors. That iPad is gadget of the year I think is right.
But as I have a Mac myself I clearly am a fanboi and therefore you won't need to listen to a word I say...
I wouldn't say that it would be the ideal commuting platform, but portable gaming is popular.
Look for a rash of Tablet devices at CES and we can almost guarantee that consumers will never see them in the shops.
Marketing makes the consumer want it.
Users would not say no to Tegra 2, HDMI, an SD slot, standard bluetooth capabilities, a removable battery, 512MB memory(same as as the iPhone), tethering and USB host ability.
- Tegra 2? No one Cares
- Bluetooth? No one Cares
- SD slot? No one Cares
- removable battery? Would result in poorer performance.
- HDMI? OK
- Tethering? OK, but the American carriers would hate it.
- Better Memory? OK
- USB Host? OK
The ones at the bottom of the list may show up in iPad 2.What a weird definition of 'no one' though.