It seems to have taken up to 8 days before the 'national' news caught on regarding the lack of water in Northern Ireland. I doubt it would have taken as long had this shortage had happened in Essex!
The strange thing is, it is not the UK government who is sending over large amounts of water to N.I., but the SCOTTISH government.:eek:
Do you hate the fact they retained the Ashes that much?
First time they've done it on Australian soil in a generation - it's a HUGE story.
I have no doubt it is a huge story, I don't have a problem with the coverage given to it. However, as was pointed out by Toland, there was an equally huge sporting story last summer, that received very little, if any, coverage on the main 'national' news headlines, it certainly never made the opening headlines in any broadcast.
One story involves a Scottish success, one an English success. We know what one was ignored, and what one got full coverage.
In a recent example it was you who made the argument that local should be within a 30/50 mile radius.
Based on your definition that would mean much of England would not have a local station.
I think we both know your ignoring me has precisely nothing to do with my style, and everything to do with you being too stubborn to concede that point.
I have no doubt it is a huge story, I don't have a problem with the coverage given to it. However, as was pointed out by Toland, there was an equally huge sporting story last summer, that received very little, if any, coverage on the main 'national' news headlines, it certainly never made the opening headlines in any broadcast.
One story involves a Scottish success, one an English success. We know what one was ignored, and what one got full coverage.
is the argument here that Scotland winning a test series in rugby against Argentina is as big a sporting story as England retaining the Ashes?
I have no doubt it is a huge story, I don't have a problem with the coverage given to it. However, as was pointed out by Toland, there was an equally huge sporting story last summer, that received very little, if any, coverage on the main 'national' news headlines, it certainly never made the opening headlines in any broadcast.
One story involves a Scottish success, one an English success. We know what one was ignored, and what one got full coverage.
Which one is of interest to the greater amount of people?
Cricket is a bigger sport than Rugby Union.
The Ashes is a competition not just a tour.
The English and Welsh cricket team cannot just be shown on local TV or radio stations like say the Scottish rugby team.
England and Wales have a far greater population than Scotland.
The strange thing is, it is not the UK government who is sending over large amounts of water to N.I., but the SCOTTISH government.:eek:
We Celtic races look after each other.....;)
I) People from Celtic nations are not a separate race,
2) It makes far more sense to get the water from Scotland rather than England due to geographical issues.
3) You look after Welsh and Northern Irish students when they want to come to university in Scotland :rolleyes:
It really doesn't Pedrok, it says more about you who ignores a valid point because you haven't got a a valid response, or your too afraid to say you made a mistake.
Which one is of interest to the greater amount of people?
Cricket is a bigger sport than Rugby Union.
The Ashes is a competition not just a tour.
The English and Welsh cricket team cannot just be shown on local TV or radio stations like say the Scottish rugby team.
England and Wales have a far greater population than Scotland.
Rubbish.
The BBC is the national broadcaster. Population doesn't come into it.
Scotland winning a test series in the southern hemisphere for the first ever time is a huge sporting story.
Strange all the St Georges flags on show, very few Welsh flags! Don't think I ever heard the BBC describe it as a victory for the English and Welsh cricket team.
It really doesn't Pedrok, it says more about you who ignores a valid point because you haven't got a a valid response, or your too afraid to say you made a mistake.
It really does Jack1.
There is nothing in my post to suggest that the English media is racist or that I made any sort of suggestion.
mainly because the Scotland v Argentina test series in rugby is not a famous sporting fixture steeped in history and tradition in the same way that the Ashes is.
mainly because the Scotland v Argentina test series in rugby is not a famous sporting fixture steeped in history and tradition in the same way that the Ashes is.
Iain
And once again you bring in a strawman point. England beating Australia is a big sporting story, Scotland beating Argentina is a big sporting story.
I) People from Celtic nations are not a separate race,
2) It makes far more sense to get the water from Scotland rather than England due to geographical issues.
3) You look after Welsh and Northern Irish students when they want to come to university in Scotland :rolleyes:
Why are you arguing against the moronic faux-nationalism of the Celtic renaissance as idealised by English Victorians with a penchant for romanticising everything? He'll keep doing it because it makes him happy and sets him apart from the English barbarians.
Pedrok: Really? You really think Scotland vs Argentina is a big news story? How is your world, btw? Still having to beat back the snarling dogs of the English imperialists?
But I especially enjoy your anti-English bias that sees anything positive about England as a negative towards Scotland. Of course, whenever there's a story about Scotland you check that there's an equivalent about England, Nireland or Wales. And you post the appropriate comment... What do you mean that doesn't happen?
You clearly hate English people for being English. Why not move to Tennessee and live with the other Scottish nationalists?
I question why a sporting event was the top story on a day when tens of thousands of people in Northern Ireland were without water.
But perhaps that's just me.
Fair point Mark, that's not say I agree with you, shame you posted in the wrong thread. This is not example of pro-English bias, but maybe the BBC did make the wrong decision here.
By all intents and purposes, the English cricket team is just that - English. And if it had been tens of thousands of people in England without water, then do we honestly believe that would have been knocked off the top by a major Northern Ireland sporting achievement?
Not a great source admittedly but Sky did a survey a few years back which found Cricket to be more popular than Rugby union. It also is the national summer sport of the UK, I accept in Wales and Scotland Rugby Union is more popular but across the UK as a whole Cricket is more popular.
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The strange thing is, it is not the UK government who is sending over large amounts of water to N.I., but the SCOTTISH government.:eek:
We Celtic races look after each other.....;)
I have no doubt it is a huge story, I don't have a problem with the coverage given to it. However, as was pointed out by Toland, there was an equally huge sporting story last summer, that received very little, if any, coverage on the main 'national' news headlines, it certainly never made the opening headlines in any broadcast.
One story involves a Scottish success, one an English success. We know what one was ignored, and what one got full coverage.
FFS.
In a recent example it was you who made the argument that local should be within a 30/50 mile radius.
Based on your definition that would mean much of England would not have a local station.
I think we both know your ignoring me has precisely nothing to do with my style, and everything to do with you being too stubborn to concede that point.
Iain
is the argument here that Scotland winning a test series in rugby against Argentina is as big a sporting story as England retaining the Ashes?
Really?
Iain
Yes! Why not?
Not at all. I just hate cricket.
Which one is of interest to the greater amount of people?
Cricket is a bigger sport than Rugby Union.
The Ashes is a competition not just a tour.
The English and Welsh cricket team cannot just be shown on local TV or radio stations like say the Scottish rugby team.
England and Wales have a far greater population than Scotland.
Of course it isn't as has been proven in my last post, that won't stop some posters making irrational arguments about it to accuse the BBC of bias.
....and that is all that matters.
I) People from Celtic nations are not a separate race,
2) It makes far more sense to get the water from Scotland rather than England due to geographical issues.
3) You look after Welsh and Northern Irish students when they want to come to university in Scotland :rolleyes:
No it isn't. Have you not read my post where I listed several reasons for differing levels of coverage?
It really doesn't Pedrok, it says more about you who ignores a valid point because you haven't got a a valid response, or your too afraid to say you made a mistake.
Rubbish.
The BBC is the national broadcaster. Population doesn't come into it.
Scotland winning a test series in the southern hemisphere for the first ever time is a huge sporting story.
Strange all the St Georges flags on show, very few Welsh flags! Don't think I ever heard the BBC describe it as a victory for the English and Welsh cricket team.
In what way is cricket a bigger sport than rugby.
A test series is a compitition.
It really does Jack1.
There is nothing in my post to suggest that the English media is racist or that I made any sort of suggestion.
Yes, and they are all rubbish.
i'm not claiming to be right about everything, so you can give that childish crap a rest for a start.
its not my fault that you made an argument that demonstrated many parts of England don't have a local radio station, going by your definition.
which is fine, but to them have the bare faced nerve to say that i'm the one being difficult is ridiculous.
and why you bother to reply to posts, when you have no intention of saying anything remotely constructive, i have no idea.
why is that?
Iain
mainly because the Scotland v Argentina test series in rugby is not a famous sporting fixture steeped in history and tradition in the same way that the Ashes is.
Iain
actually, despite your selective quoting, no - its not all that matters.
but is a contributing factor.
is there any reason you keep misquoting people like this? because its very transparent.
Iain
And once again you bring in a strawman point. England beating Australia is a big sporting story, Scotland beating Argentina is a big sporting story.
But perhaps that's just me.
If that was the case, then why did you use "foreign" when referring to the coach and then go on to say they would make "a good scape goat"?
If this is just an unintended message on your part then say so and I will drop the whole thing.
Why are you arguing against the moronic faux-nationalism of the Celtic renaissance as idealised by English Victorians with a penchant for romanticising everything? He'll keep doing it because it makes him happy and sets him apart from the English barbarians.
Pedrok: Really? You really think Scotland vs Argentina is a big news story? How is your world, btw? Still having to beat back the snarling dogs of the English imperialists?
But I especially enjoy your anti-English bias that sees anything positive about England as a negative towards Scotland. Of course, whenever there's a story about Scotland you check that there's an equivalent about England, Nireland or Wales. And you post the appropriate comment... What do you mean that doesn't happen?
You clearly hate English people for being English. Why not move to Tennessee and live with the other Scottish nationalists?
Fair point Mark, that's not say I agree with you, shame you posted in the wrong thread. This is not example of pro-English bias, but maybe the BBC did make the wrong decision here.
By all intents and purposes, the English cricket team is just that - English. And if it had been tens of thousands of people in England without water, then do we honestly believe that would have been knocked off the top by a major Northern Ireland sporting achievement?
It has to, otherwise how would the BBC prioritise stories for a half an hour news show?
If we didn't look at population then the BAFL would be on the same level as the SPL or the EPL. :rolleyes:
Yes for the people of Scotland it was, but it certainly isn't as big as the Ashes story for the UK as a whole.
This has nothing to do with the BBC.
That is because many people refer to it as just the English team but of course Wales are included.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Top_ten_spectator_sports_in_britain
Not a great source admittedly but Sky did a survey a few years back which found Cricket to be more popular than Rugby union. It also is the national summer sport of the UK, I accept in Wales and Scotland Rugby Union is more popular but across the UK as a whole Cricket is more popular.