Weirdly I've never viewed him as a Dec replacement, even though ES said he is. I don't think Brendan would ever, ever want Declan to do the things he's made Joel do.
I've always seen him as more of a way for Brendan to sculpt him into a mini him, rather than a son.
Oh see, I've always told myself there was an element of him replacing Dec, because, like, it was the only way I could justify it.
I don't think it's quite like he wanted a son figure but more like, he liked Joel looking up to him the way that Dec did. But without him having to worry about emotionally destroying Joel as he did with Declan. Except now he's let himself become a bit attached to Joel too.
The whole facade of "Oi don't need anyone"!Brendan is kinda fading. He does.
Mm that's why I haven't watched much of it. I don't rate Brendan/Walker and the whole Broel thing doesn't ring true to me whatsoever.
Yeah that's my issue too. It's ruined the Walker plot a bit for me because the whole Joel plot has been terrible and doesn't work for me.
If it leads to Walker actually hurting the people who matter to Brendan and we see more mind games then fine but I'm not getting this really. Even if I say to myself "Okay Brendan wanted a mini me errand boy" - I still don't think it works.
Oh see, I've always told myself there was an element of him replacing Dec, because, like, it was the only way I could justify it.
I don't think it's quite like he wanted a son figure but more like, he liked Joel looking up to him the way that Dec did. But without him having to worry about emotionally destroying Joel as he did with Declan. Except now he's let himself become a bit attached to Joel too.
The whole facade of "Oi don't need anyone"!Brendan is kinda fading. He does.
Now we really need to see the element of Ste in Brendan's life. It'll be the last straw. Now I'm really curious as to how they will unveil Ste to Walker...
Yeah that's my issue too. It's ruined the Walker plot a bit for me because the whole Joel plot has been terrible and doesn't work for me.
If it leads to Walker actually hurting the people who matter to Brendan and we see more mind games then fine but I'm not getting this really. Even if I say to myself "Okay Brendan wanted a mini me errand boy" - I still don't think it works.
Yeah, no, same. Any way I try to spin it, I just can't enjoy it and it's been like that ever since Joel returned and Brendan went from loathing him, to now .. what, loving him like he was his own?!
It's just a load of rubbish, really, and I don't really like that it's obviously becoming part of Brendan's life, rather than just a plot to get him from A to B. :sleep:
I know we have issues with Eddy Marshall's direction, but he (or she?) is good at filling the screen with the face of an actor and just letting them act.
Oh see, I've always told myself there was an element of him replacing Dec, because, like, it was the only way I could justify it.
I don't think it's quite like he wanted a son figure but more like, he liked Joel looking up to him the way that Dec did. But without him having to worry about emotionally destroying Joel as he did with Declan. Except now he's let himself become a bit attached to Joel too.
The whole facade of "Oi don't need anyone"!Brendan is kinda fading. He does.
Yes, that makes more sense to me. Because as much as he loves his kids, he's never been the most natural father in his interactions with Declan. He was constantly just paying him to go away, twisting his mind or upsetting him. So I guess Joel was his way of not having to worry about that, and having that power and control.
BIB - I love this. Like Sarah said, I'm so glad they're exploring it in more depth.
Now we really need to see the element of Ste in Brendan's life. It'll be the last straw. Now I'm really curious as to how they will unveil Ste to Walker...
I'm not sure how they can. Because, like, they won't be kissing or anything () any time soon, so unless he eavesdrops? But even then, that would require Brendan and Ste discussing feelings and when do they ever do that?
I'm not sure how they can. Because, like, they won't be kissing or anything () any time soon, so unless he eavesdrops? But even then, that would require Brendan and Ste discussing feelings and when do they ever do that?
Or someone could talk to Brendan about Ste. Like Cheryl. She always kinda got it.
Another thing which I find incredibly unlikely but it's more likely than Brendan and Ste talking.
Oh looking at the HO Facebook page and seeing the comments on their most recent picture is quite a laugh. It seems most people on FB have either a love or hate feeling towards Joel.
My personal favorite: Hope Joel dies. He's an irritating obnoxious tw*t.
I know we have issues with Eddy Marshall's direction, but he (or she?) is good at filling the screen with the face of an actor and just letting them act.
True.
Again there was too much music and then a big zoom onto Brendan's face when he shouted which I didn't like, but no slowmo annoyances tonight .
I'm not sure how they can. Because, like, they won't be kissing or anything () any time soon, so unless he eavesdrops? But even then, that would require Brendan and Ste discussing feelings and when do they ever do that?
I can imagine him just sensing something between them (if he knows he's gay, that is. Which I'm guessing he does.) He seems perceptive and intelligent. I think he'd think their interactions are a bit odd, perhaps. And put two and two together after some probing.
I know we have issues with Eddy Marshall's direction, but he (or she?) is good at filling the screen with the face of an actor and just letting them act.
It's his effects that ruin it for me. He goes between great simplicity and film school faff.
How many has he directed this week? Because I liked the directing until yesterday.
Yes, that makes more sense to me. Because as much as he loves his kids, he's never been the most natural father in his interactions with Declan. He was constantly just paying him to go away, twisting his mind or upsetting him. So I guess Joel was his way of not having to worry about that, and having that power and control.
Except the problem is, he does now give a damn and history is repeating in a way.
I'm not sure how they can. Because, like, they won't be kissing or anything () any time soon, so unless he eavesdrops? But even then, that would require Brendan and Ste discussing feelings and when do they ever do that?
Unless of course Brendan goes to talk to Cheryl, because we all know he clearly cares about Cheryl more than any almost anyone, so possibly when he's talking to her, she brings Ste up, and Walker happens to be eave-dropping like the creep he is.
I'm glad that they told us that they filmed a scene together recently, I hope that isn't it mind, I'm a bit worried that the only way they can avoid having to make Brendan react to Stug is just to have them not be onscreen at the same time until they are ready to deal with it.
Oh looking at the HO Facebook page and seeing the comments on their most recent picture is quite a laugh. It seems most people on FB have either a love or hate feeling towards Joel.
My personal favorite: Hope Joel dies. He's an irritating obnoxious ****.
Well, he is an irritating, obnoxious ****, but he's my irritating, obnoxious ****.
Oh looking at the HO Facebook page and seeing the comments on their most recent picture is quite a laugh. It seems most people on FB have either a love or hate feeling towards Joel.
My personal favorite: Hope Joel dies. He's an irritating obnoxious ****.
I do wish they had done the Brendan/Joel build-up better.
Less time faffing about with cocktails and Joel running the club, more time exploring why Brendan wanted him around. ES told me I was right when I said he was a Dec replacement, but like, would it have killed Cheryl to say, when Joel moved in, "Bren, you can't just replace Declan, you know. You have to work things out with him" and Brendan ignoring her?
They woz right about us.
Yea, I think if they showed them more "bonding" rather than Joel saying he owns half a club and Brendan playing with him it would have been more..believable.
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Oh see, I've always told myself there was an element of him replacing Dec, because, like, it was the only way I could justify it.
I don't think it's quite like he wanted a son figure but more like, he liked Joel looking up to him the way that Dec did. But without him having to worry about emotionally destroying Joel as he did with Declan. Except now he's let himself become a bit attached to Joel too.
The whole facade of "Oi don't need anyone"!Brendan is kinda fading. He does.
Point.
Oh he'll either be an embarrassing dad stereotype or just an outright tw*t. It's HO, he's bald and over thirty, there's only two options for him.
That's Walker, love. Sometimes, he sprinkles the drugs over the puppies, gives it flavoring, innit.
It was an accident waiting to happen, arson isn't an accident as far as I'm aware.
Stupid, vicious, thoughtless piece of shit she is.
I have no idea who this Carole Malone is but what a F*cking bitch...:(
Yeah that's my issue too. It's ruined the Walker plot a bit for me because the whole Joel plot has been terrible and doesn't work for me.
If it leads to Walker actually hurting the people who matter to Brendan and we see more mind games then fine but I'm not getting this really. Even if I say to myself "Okay Brendan wanted a mini me errand boy" - I still don't think it works.
Now we really need to see the element of Ste in Brendan's life. It'll be the last straw. Now I'm really curious as to how they will unveil Ste to Walker...
:eek:
I'm actually speechless.
What a vile, vile thing to say.
Yeah, no, same. Any way I try to spin it, I just can't enjoy it and it's been like that ever since Joel returned and Brendan went from loathing him, to now .. what, loving him like he was his own?!
It's just a load of rubbish, really, and I don't really like that it's obviously becoming part of Brendan's life, rather than just a plot to get him from A to B. :sleep:
Yes, that makes more sense to me. Because as much as he loves his kids, he's never been the most natural father in his interactions with Declan. He was constantly just paying him to go away, twisting his mind or upsetting him.
BIB - I love this. Like Sarah said, I'm so glad they're exploring it in more depth.
She even told him to talk to Rhys. I almost fainted with the continuity
No, only human flesh for Walker. He has a refined palate. :cool:
Disgusting woman.
Not remotely surprised.
I'm not sure how they can. Because, like, they won't be kissing or anything (
Or someone could talk to Brendan about Ste. Like Cheryl. She always kinda got it.
Another thing which I find incredibly unlikely but it's more likely than Brendan and Ste talking.
My personal favorite: Hope Joel dies. He's an irritating obnoxious tw*t.
True.
Again there was too much music and then a big zoom onto Brendan's face when he shouted which I didn't like, but no slowmo annoyances tonight
This whole weeks been pretty impressive when it comes to that.
I can imagine him just sensing something between them (if he knows he's gay, that is. Which I'm guessing he does.) He seems perceptive and intelligent. I think he'd think their interactions are a bit odd, perhaps. And put two and two together after some probing.
It's his effects that ruin it for me. He goes between great simplicity and film school faff.
How many has he directed this week? Because I liked the directing until yesterday.
Except the problem is, he does now give a damn and history is repeating in a way.
Unless of course Brendan goes to talk to Cheryl, because we all know he clearly cares about Cheryl more than any almost anyone, so possibly when he's talking to her, she brings Ste up, and Walker happens to be eave-dropping like the creep he is.
Well, he is an irritating, obnoxious ****, but he's my irritating, obnoxious ****.
Poor Brendan. It's tragic, really. He's doomed to repeat the same cycle unless something finally changes.
Ha, yes! Point, again.
Plus Bronagh said her scripts were "Stendan-y" so you never know...
Oh Joely.
BIB: It was the laughter that did it for me.
Reminded me of Carrie and not in a good way.
Yea, I think if they showed them more "bonding" rather than Joel saying he owns half a club and Brendan playing with him it would have been more..believable.
Ooh, that's very true.
In fact, I'm sure the Cheryl/Stendan stuff should be coming up this week, with her mentioning them?
Very interesting.