No, all I read on here are people who just want to say nasty, horrible, sarcastic, snide, negative things about England. Always the same.
I agree , we should be celebrating not complaining. We all know that we are not the best team in Europe and any team we play in this tournament is going to be tough for us.
Every one is saying don't expect too much from the team and you lot on here are doing the complete opposite , what else do you want ?
If Milner starts the next game, I really must question why.
Because he's played 3 games, we're unbeaten and have won the group. He wasn't great tonight either and this was his best match of the three.
But you don't pick your 6 best players for the front 6 places. Maybe Milner is bringing out much better from Gerrard, Rooney & Wellbeck, than Theo or Ox would.
I'd be more inclined to look at how at points in all 3 games we have been overrun in the midfield & Parker particularly looks to either be short of help or short of his usual form. But then Jones or Henderson coming in would be a gamble.
No, all I read on here are people who just want to say nasty, horrible, negative things about England.
Always the same.
Did you watch the game, then you would know why it was woeful. An International team like ours should be attacking.
The first half I just don't know how we got away with it as Ukraine should have put 2 or 3 past us as England just sat back and let them come at us. I can name on one hand the best players for England tonight. It should be 11 players, playing at their best. They weren't and we know it.
I know many forum members will strongly disagree about the point I am about to make. Check the replay again before you post a reply.
Having watched the replay of the Ukraine 'goal' I am now not 100% sure the entire ball crossed the line.
It looks like 0.00000001%b of the ball may have not crossed the entire line. In the next few days it should be revealed.
England were also on the end of a couple of poor decisions tonight, the missed header from 6 yards by Ukraine was a yard offside as was the forward in the build up the the 'goal' cleared off the line,
Because he's played 3 games, we're unbeaten and have won the group. He wasn't great tonight either and this was his best match of the three.
But you don't pick your 6 best players for the front 6 places. Maybe Milner is bringing out much better from Gerrard, Rooney & Wellbeck, than Theo or Ox would.
I'd be more inclined to look at how at points in all 3 games we have been overrun in the midfield & Parker particularly looks to either be short of help or short of his usual form. But then Jones or Henderson coming in would be a gamble.
Italy struggled against a poor quality Ireland team which are much worser than Ukraine, so I don't think it's cut and dry.
Rep of Ireland would have given this England side nightmares, England in irelands group and it would have been the same result as Ireland got.
Ukraine with a better final ball and shevchenko fit to start would have won tonight.
There is no way that you could say there that the whole of the ball was over the whole of the line. It looks like you couldn't have even slid an A4 sheet of paper between the two.
ITV just showed a graphic replay and the ball was all over the line, just, but a Ukraine player was offside... So justice was done.
That's a slightly predjudiced opinion from Southgate : there are often quite a few incorrect offsides called during a match, but a goal being wrongly disallowed is a more serious matter.
That's a slightly predjudiced opinion from Southgate : there are often quite a few incorrect offsides called during a match, but a goal being wrongly disallowed is a more serious matter.
How can it be more serious than a goal being incorrectly given for offside
I would have them as exactly the same in importance.
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I agree , we should be celebrating not complaining. We all know that we are not the best team in Europe and any team we play in this tournament is going to be tough for us.
Every one is saying don't expect too much from the team and you lot on here are doing the complete opposite , what else do you want ?
Because he's played 3 games, we're unbeaten and have won the group. He wasn't great tonight either and this was his best match of the three.
But you don't pick your 6 best players for the front 6 places. Maybe Milner is bringing out much better from Gerrard, Rooney & Wellbeck, than Theo or Ox would.
I'd be more inclined to look at how at points in all 3 games we have been overrun in the midfield & Parker particularly looks to either be short of help or short of his usual form. But then Jones or Henderson coming in would be a gamble.
Did you watch the game, then you would know why it was woeful. An International team like ours should be attacking.
The first half I just don't know how we got away with it as Ukraine should have put 2 or 3 past us as England just sat back and let them come at us. I can name on one hand the best players for England tonight. It should be 11 players, playing at their best. They weren't and we know it.
To me it looked closer than many seem to be suggesting.
What exactly is Milner's contribution in a match?
We should just point the finger at the assistant referee for missing the offside.
ITV just showed a graphic replay and the ball was all over the line, just, but a Ukraine player was offside... So justice was done.
That off-form journeyman Joe Hart.
Old 'OFJ' he's known as on the training ground.
Who cares ? it was offside anyway so it would have been an injustice on England if it had counted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkmEJkUo5R4
Shit internet fans, thankfully great match supporters! Sounded awesome there.
Bring on the quarters.
Ukraine with a better final ball and shevchenko fit to start would have won tonight.
Nothing . She shouldn't have been picked end of.
There is no way that you could say there that the whole of the ball was over the whole of the line. It looks like you couldn't have even slid an A4 sheet of paper between the two.
Roy must have drummed that into them.
That's a slightly predjudiced opinion from Southgate : there are often quite a few incorrect offsides called during a match, but a goal being wrongly disallowed is a more serious matter.
Same as Ashley Young's.
There wasn't a goal, even if it was over the line (which is debatable) they were a mile offside in the build up.
or we can keep winning and see if we eventually even have to end up having to play them.
I would have them as exactly the same in importance.