If as reported Oscar is selling off his assets to pay his legal fees and PR spindoctors could that increase the risk of him skipping the country due to having less fixed assets?
Could he need to go abroad for treatment or have new artifical legs fitted?
I personally believe the story is all spin. Judging by his personal wealth and that of his family, I think it's too early to be disposing off assets to raise funds.
And as for him 'being suicidal', well that's just another carefully vetted release to the media to garner sympathy and that Pistorius is a 'broken man'. Well, at least he's still alive, which is more than can be said for his victim.
Perhaps I'm getting cynical but being suicidal doesn't equate with wanting his passport back, most experiencing deep depression can't even get dressed of a day let along travel out of the country I'd bloody make sure he stays away from booze (and any weapons that may be in reach). Makes no sense to me.
In England he would not have been given bail. If however by some bizarre miracle of fate he was released, the bail conditions would have been extremely stringent (daily reporting to a police station, residence at a different address, no contact with prosecution witnesses, surrender of passport, maybe even curfew). Aside from the no alcohol condition which is unusual in England, all other conditions are pretty standard and quite lenient by our standards.
If as reported Oscar is selling off his assets to pay his legal fees and PR spindoctors could that increase the risk of him skipping the country due to having less fixed assets?
Could he need to go abroad for treatment or have new artifical legs fitted?
Not sure but I would have imagined the defence would have raised that when the bail conditions were being sorted?
I personally believe the story is all spin. Judging by his personal wealth and that of his family, I think it's too early to be disposing off assets to raise funds.
I did find it suprising considering he was supposed to be buying a £300k McLaren.
I did find it suprising considering he was supposed to be buying a £300k McLaren.
Wasn't that ordered a while back though (think I read it was a reward to himself for his Olympics success) - maybe he was relying on his endorsements to pay for it....either that or he's stockpiling his money to do a runner (no pun intended).
Aren't murder suspects normally remanded in custody in the UK? Apparently, they are in SA too, but money talks.
As others have said, it is rare for people charged with murder to get bail.
Those that do will have severe bail conditions imposed, and if it is suspected they are likely to breach them, they can be arrested, and placed back in custody.
I think that with Pistorious's actions re challenging all his bail condtions, there are reasonable grounds to believe he is likely to breach some, if not all of them.
Best make up a packed lunch and a thermos just in case.
I'm not sure I can face listening to all that stuff again. He should have a quick hearing, refuse the appeal, and stick him straight back into custody.
He is likely to breach any of the conditions, and if he is a suicide risk too, then he can be remanded for his own safety.
I think what I find interesting here is that her ex-boyfriend says that in the 5 years they were together, he'd never known her to lock the bathroom door...
I think what I find interesting here is that her ex-boyfriend says that in the 5 years they were together, he'd never known her to lock the bathroom door...
...sorry, what exactly is being inferred here?
(The article actually says he 'could not remember' her locking the door - which is slightly different.)
...sorry, what exactly is being inferred here?
(The article actually says he 'could not remember' her locking the door - which is slightly different.)
I just think its weird that he evidently knows her very well after 5 years together and he doesn't recll her locking the bathroom door so its evidently something out of the ordinary for her or he'd have remembered that it wa her normal behaviour. So maybe she locked the door that particular night to protect herself from OP. No proof of course, but like most things on this thread, its just supposition!
Sky News' Alex Crawford reporting that OP's spokesman deny he is suicidal. He is traumatized and a broken man and that he spends his time reading the Bible, being the "deeply religious person" that he is!
She confirms he wants to be able to travel more freely around Pretoria and leave the country with prior permission.
Barry Bateman tweeting he is selling his home where the killing took place.
I just think its weird that he evidently knows her very well after 5 years together and he doesn't recll her locking the bathroom door so its evidently something out of the ordinary for her or he'd have remembered that it wa her normal behaviour. So maybe she locked the door that particular night to protect herself from OP. No proof of course, but like most things on this thread, its just supposition!
Fair enough
It could also be that as they were together for five years, she became less self conscious about such things - OP and RS hadn't been together all that long- and he simply can't remember what she did in the first few months.
Or that you're right, locking the door wasn't her usual habit, but when/if she heard OP shout there was someone in the house, she reacted by locking herself in.
Can't believe the arrogance of him and his defense team. A woman is dead, he is charged with murder, and he thinks he should be given his passport back so he can travel overseas? It's breathtaking arrogance. He should be held on remand, not living a life of luxury with his family. Sickening.
BIB - absolutely. It smacks of spoilt rich boy wanting his own way, and not taking responsibility for his actions...Reeva's poor family must be crushed.
I can just see this whole bail conditions hearing and then the trial being an absolute farce.
BIB - absolutely. It smacks of spoilt rich boy wanting his own way, and not taking responsibility for his actions...Reeva's poor family must be crushed.
I can just see this whole bail conditions hearing and then the trial being an absolute farce.
I agree. I'm afraid that if he gets any of the bail restrictions lifted then this will be a sign for what's to come - he'll either get off with it or his sentence will be a joke.
So a murder suspect out on bail now wants the chance to holiday to relieve his stress? :mad:
Well, it's understandable, isn't it? After all, killing an innocent person by shooting them 3 times is bound to be a bit stressful. I mean, who wouldn't need a holiday?:rolleyes:
Dear me, if I were in his position I'd just be grateful I wasn't in prison right now. I read a while back that people have cossetted him, I'm beginning to feel that he is precious.
So precious he thought he could get away with murder by relying on his family/hangers on to get him out of it?
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Yes, they are!
I personally believe the story is all spin. Judging by his personal wealth and that of his family, I think it's too early to be disposing off assets to raise funds.
Perhaps I'm getting cynical but being suicidal doesn't equate with wanting his passport back, most experiencing deep depression can't even get dressed of a day let along travel out of the country
Thanks for that. I suspected they were remanded but wasn't too sure.
Thanks for the info, appreciated.
Not sure but I would have imagined the defence would have raised that when the bail conditions were being sorted?
I did find it suprising considering he was supposed to be buying a £300k McLaren.
Wasn't that ordered a while back though (think I read it was a reward to himself for his Olympics success) - maybe he was relying on his endorsements to pay for it....either that or he's stockpiling his money to do a runner (no pun intended).
As others have said, it is rare for people charged with murder to get bail.
Those that do will have severe bail conditions imposed, and if it is suspected they are likely to breach them, they can be arrested, and placed back in custody.
I think that with Pistorious's actions re challenging all his bail condtions, there are reasonable grounds to believe he is likely to breach some, if not all of them.
I'm not sure I can face listening to all that stuff again. He should have a quick hearing, refuse the appeal, and stick him straight back into custody.
He is likely to breach any of the conditions, and if he is a suicide risk too, then he can be remanded for his own safety.
Typical that it clashes with 2 other programmes! Is the the first showing or has it been on before?
Seems odd to be on BBC3
I think what I find interesting here is that her ex-boyfriend says that in the 5 years they were together, he'd never known her to lock the bathroom door...
First showing, being BBC 3 it's bound to be repeated.
Here we are...
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...sorry, what exactly is being inferred here?
(The article actually says he 'could not remember' her locking the door - which is slightly different.)
I just think its weird that he evidently knows her very well after 5 years together and he doesn't recll her locking the bathroom door so its evidently something out of the ordinary for her or he'd have remembered that it wa her normal behaviour. So maybe she locked the door that particular night to protect herself from OP. No proof of course, but like most things on this thread, its just supposition!
She confirms he wants to be able to travel more freely around Pretoria and leave the country with prior permission.
Barry Bateman tweeting he is selling his home where the killing took place.
Fair enough
It could also be that as they were together for five years, she became less self conscious about such things - OP and RS hadn't been together all that long- and he simply can't remember what she did in the first few months.
Or that you're right, locking the door wasn't her usual habit, but when/if she heard OP shout there was someone in the house, she reacted by locking herself in.
I can just see this whole bail conditions hearing and then the trial being an absolute farce.
I agree. I'm afraid that if he gets any of the bail restrictions lifted then this will be a sign for what's to come - he'll either get off with it or his sentence will be a joke.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21739320
Sounds like it's the money he's mourning :rolleyes:
Well, it's understandable, isn't it? After all, killing an innocent person by shooting them 3 times is bound to be a bit stressful. I mean, who wouldn't need a holiday?:rolleyes: