Even if the pits should have been closed, what did the government offer in terms of support with reskilling, relocation., alternative employment etc for those affected?
You can certainly tell the tories on this thread, wonder if they have never been on strike?
They are probably the ones crossing the picket line but are happy to take the benefits of pay, pensions increases etc the strikers won.
I have known a few of them in my time.
Sounds like she was being polite and humble to me.
It sounds to me like she was expressing her wishes as to how her funeral should be conducted. Wishes that are now being ignored in the name of party politics.
It sounds to me like she was expressing her wishes as to how her funeral should be conducted. Wishes that are now being ignored in the name of party politics.
Seems to me like she was involved in the arrangements - were you?
The Queen and Gordon Brown are both in discussions with Lady Thatcher’s private office concerning the arrangements. This does not reflect any concern over Lady Thatcher’s health, but simply the prudent long-term planning necessary for any event involving the Queen.
You can certainly tell the tories on this thread, wonder if they have never been on strike?
They are probably the ones crossing the picket line but are happy to take the benefits of pay, pensions increases etc the strikers won.
I have known a few of them in my time.
Memories of the 1970s and the way the unions behaved in those days meant that I could never contemplate joining a union. In principle unions are a good idea, but many of their actions turned me off for life.
You can certainly tell the tories on this thread, wonder if they have never been on strike?
They are probably the ones crossing the picket line but are happy to take the benefits of pay, pensions increases etc the strikers won.
I have known a few of them in my time.
No, I've never been on strike. But then again, I've never been in a Union and never worked for a company where any part of it was unionised or any member of staff felt the need to be belong to a Union.
Memories of the 1970s and the way the unions behaved in those days meant that I could never contemplate joining a union. In principle unions are a good idea, but many of their actions turned me off for life.
Unions are or were good in principle, however they soon become dominated by dogma driven political idealists, whose sole agenda is power and self interest.
No, I've never been on strike. But then again, I've never been in a Union and never worked for a company where any part of it was unionised or any member of staff felt the need to be belong to a Union.
... and now you know one of them too
Such workplaces should be shouted from the rooftops so that everyone knows where the ideal employment situations are
Memories of the 1970s and the way the unions behaved in those days meant that I could never contemplate joining a union. In principle unions are a good idea, but many of their actions turned me off for life.
If things really are that bad as regards unions, and I know from experience that they are not, for everyone that takes this position it is an opportunity lost to influence whatever changes they think fit.
I agree that it should have been a private funeral then memorial for someone so controversial. I can't remember the last time someone received a public funeral who had so much animosity levelled at them by a great number of the public. Certainly not the Queen Mother or Diana. It just all seems a bit wrong.
Considering the huge amount of folk who have a real dislike for her, it does seem odd that it should be forced upon the entire nation. It's as if they don't have a voice at all.
Considering the huge amount of folk who have a real dislike for her, it does seem odd that it should be forced upon the entire nation. It's as if they don't have a voice at all.
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Sounds like she was being polite and humble to me.
They are probably the ones crossing the picket line but are happy to take the benefits of pay, pensions increases etc the strikers won.
I have known a few of them in my time.
And perhaps the national response should reflect that in terms of funereal provision.
It sounds to me like she was expressing her wishes as to how her funeral should be conducted. Wishes that are now being ignored in the name of party politics.
Seems to me like she was involved in the arrangements - were you?
Memories of the 1970s and the way the unions behaved in those days meant that I could never contemplate joining a union. In principle unions are a good idea, but many of their actions turned me off for life.
About as much as you (and reporters from the Daily Mail) were.
What a stupid question.
No, I've never been on strike. But then again, I've never been in a Union and never worked for a company where any part of it was unionised or any member of staff felt the need to be belong to a Union.
... and now you know one of them too
Unions are or were good in principle, however they soon become dominated by dogma driven political idealists, whose sole agenda is power and self interest.
How ironic if its BBC Licence fee.
Such workplaces should be shouted from the rooftops so that everyone knows where the ideal employment situations are
If things really are that bad as regards unions, and I know from experience that they are not, for everyone that takes this position it is an opportunity lost to influence whatever changes they think fit.
Considering the huge amount of folk who have a real dislike for her, it does seem odd that it should be forced upon the entire nation. It's as if they don't have a voice at all.
forced??
You're concerned about peaceful protest?!
I find it all a bit unsavoury myself, it's not something I'd do; however it is just that, peaceful protest.
Good news if you are in the glazier business.
Besides, it's a bit odd and self-defeating to protest against the costs when policing the protests is just going to increase the costs.
Forced to pay for a nationalised funeral. The very antithesis of what she stood for.
Surely the deferential dignified Thatcher supporters would do no such thing?
Wouldn't that negate the argument about respect etc?
That's not how I would describe the violence and disorder ive seen reported.