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British Soldier in Afghanistan sexually abused a child pleads guilty

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    Nessun DormaNessun Dorma Posts: 12,846
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    Pull2Open wrote: »
    And that's sticking up for a child molester is it :confused: Sorry but I can no longer take you seriously!

    Err...yes, that is exactly what it is. He has been convicted of abusing the child and people are sticking up for him and making excuses about how he is no more guilty than being an idiot.

    It's just like that twit Nightingale, who brought back an illegal weapon and tons of ammunition.
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    Pull2OpenPull2Open Posts: 15,138
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    Err...yes, that is exactly what it is. He has been convicted of abusing the child and people are sticking up for him and making excuses about how he is no more guilty than being an idiot.

    It's just like that twit Nightingale, who brought back an illegal weapon and tons of ammunition.

    And with that, your agenda is blown wide open! You have no interest in the OP beyond your anti military agenda! You are really quite pathetic!

    Oh and err, no, no one has stuck up for this soldier in this thread and if you believe they have then your logic is seriously flawed! Then again, with your agenda, maybe its just twisted!
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    Jane Doh!Jane Doh! Posts: 43,307
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    Err...yes, that is exactly what it is. He has been convicted of abusing the child and people are sticking up for him and making excuses about how he is no more guilty than being an idiot.

    It's just like that twit Nightingale, who brought back an illegal weapon and tons of ammunition.

    Abuse does not mean molestation.
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    BelfastGuy125BelfastGuy125 Posts: 7,515
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    How has this thread reached 14 pages? The guy himself has admitted he is GUILTY. Yet people keep defending him. I mean I could understand it if he insisted he was innocent, then there would be a question mark, but the guy himself has said "Yes im guilty, judge me". If he has done that, why in the hell are there people who have no relation to him defending him?
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    Jane Doh!Jane Doh! Posts: 43,307
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    How has this thread reached 14 pages? The guy himself has admitted he is GUILTY. Yet people keep defending him. I mean I could understand it if he insisted he was innocent, then there would be a question mark, but the guy himself has said "Yes im guilty, judge me". If he has done that, why in the hell are there people who have no relation to him defending him?

    We're discussing his right to anonymity.
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    Si_CreweSi_Crewe Posts: 40,202
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    Err...yes, that is exactly what it is. He has been convicted of abusing the child and people are sticking up for him and making excuses about how he is no more guilty than being an idiot.

    It's just like that twit Nightingale, who brought back an illegal weapon and tons of ammunition.

    Okay, firstly, you really need to go and read the various articles about the case again.

    If I operated a cleaning business and sent kids up chimneys I could probably be convicted of "abusing a child".
    That's not the same as "molesting a child", much less "raping a child".

    There's nothing to suggest there's any sexual element involved at all.
    All the stuff about "ZOMG! His name must be made public to protect teh childrenz!!!" is just disingenuous bullshit.
    The judge advocate said there had been no sexual motive behind the behaviour.

    Secondly, how on Earth is this "just like" a soldier possessing illegal weapons and ammunition?

    I'm really struggling to make the connection there. :confused:
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    slick1twoslick1two Posts: 2,877
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    Jane Doh! wrote: »
    Abuse does not mean molestation.

    Well his actions seem to fit this definition.
    Sexual abuse, also referred to as molestation, is the forcing of undesired sexual behavior by one person upon another. When that force is immediate, of short duration, or infrequent, it is called sexual assault. The offender is referred to as a sexual abuser or (often pejoratively) molester.[1] The term also covers any behavior by any adult towards a child to stimulate either the adult or child sexually. When the victim is younger than the age of consent, it is referred to as child sexual abuse.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse

    So yes, it was molestation and it was sexual abuse. But don't let me stop you from making excuses for and defending this nonce.
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    Si_CreweSi_Crewe Posts: 40,202
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    slick1two wrote: »
    Well his actions seem to fit this definition.



    So yes, it was molestation and it was sexual abuse.

    No it wasn't.

    The judge said so.
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    Pull2OpenPull2Open Posts: 15,138
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    Jane Doh! wrote: »
    We're discussing his right to anonymity.

    To be fair, its more like his families right not to be put as serious risk!
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    slick1twoslick1two Posts: 2,877
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    Si_Crewe wrote: »
    No it wasn't.

    The judge said so.
    They also let him off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist and a fine. So what? he's committed a crime, but hasn't actually been punished for it.

    Keep condoning this behaviour. You obviously didn't see anything wrong with it.
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    Pull2OpenPull2Open Posts: 15,138
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    Si_Crewe wrote: »
    No it wasn't.

    The judge said so.

    We'll get told that the Law is corrupt next!
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    Jane Doh!Jane Doh! Posts: 43,307
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    slick1two wrote: »
    Well his actions seem to fit this definition.



    So yes, it was molestation and it was sexual abuse. But don't let me stop you from making excuses for and defending this nonce.
    I disagree. I'm not making excuses or defending a nonce. Having personal experience of a paedophile, that's something I would be very unlikely to do.
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    Pull2OpenPull2Open Posts: 15,138
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    slick1two wrote: »
    They also let him off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist and a fine. So what? he's committed a crime, but hasn't actually been punished for it.

    Keep condoning this behaviour. You obviously didn't see anything wrong with it.

    NO ONE IS CONDONING ANYTHING! Why do you keep saying that! Prove it!
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    Jane Doh!Jane Doh! Posts: 43,307
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    Pull2Open wrote: »
    To be fair, its more like his families right not to be put as serious risk!

    I was trying to keep it as simple as possible!
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    slick1twoslick1two Posts: 2,877
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    Pull2Open wrote: »
    We'll get told that the Law is corrupt next!

    Well that punishment obviously was! He commited a criminal act but all he got was a a good ticking off and thats it. So yes in this instance, justice was not served. Plus, a sex abuser is likely back in the UK and could well strike again. Don't know why that doesn't seem to bother you, but it bothers me and I am sure many parents out there would not be best pleased that a nonce is roaming the streets. There are enough as it is, so why protect this one??
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    Jane Doh!Jane Doh! Posts: 43,307
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    slick1two wrote: »
    Well that punishment obviously was! He commited a criminal act but all he got was a a good ticking off and thats it. So yes in this instance, justice was not served. Plus, a sex abuser is likely back in the UK and could well strike again. Don't know why that doesn't seem to bother you, but it bothers me and I am sure many parents out there would not be best pleased that a nonce is roaming the streets. There are enough as it is, so why protect this one??

    Read the news articles or the thread. The answer to your question is there.
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    slick1twoslick1two Posts: 2,877
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    Jane Doh! wrote: »
    Read the news articles or the thread. The answer to your question is there.

    But seriously, why are you defending a child molester??
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    Si_CreweSi_Crewe Posts: 40,202
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    slick1two wrote: »
    They also let him off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist and a fine. So what? he's committed a crime, but hasn't actually been punished for it.

    Did it occur to you that the punishment he received was appropriate for his actual offence, rather than the one you've manufactured in your head?
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    Cheetah666Cheetah666 Posts: 16,036
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    I don't disagree with that principle, but it shouldn't be granted purely because of the job they do. If it is granted at all, it should be available to everyone, including civilians.

    Have you ever heard of Mary Bell, Maxine Carr, Robert Thompson or Jon Venables?
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    Pull2OpenPull2Open Posts: 15,138
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    slick1two wrote: »
    But seriously, why are you defending a child molester??

    Ok you are now clearly on the wind up and baiting!
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    Jane Doh!Jane Doh! Posts: 43,307
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    slick1two wrote: »
    But seriously, why are you defending a child molester??

    I haven't.
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    Si_CreweSi_Crewe Posts: 40,202
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    slick1two wrote: »
    Well that punishment obviously was! He commited a criminal act but all he got was a a good ticking off and thats it. So yes in this instance, justice was not served. Plus, a sex abuser is likely back in the UK and could well strike again. Don't know why that doesn't seem to bother you, but it bothers me and I am sure many parents out there would not be best pleased that a nonce is roaming the streets. There are enough as it is, so why protect this one??

    You're still speculating about a scenario which you've dreamed up rather than considering the evidence that has been published.
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    Pull2OpenPull2Open Posts: 15,138
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    Jane Doh! wrote: »
    I haven't.

    They're baiting now which makes the obtuseness a lot clearer!
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    Jane Doh!Jane Doh! Posts: 43,307
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    slick1two wrote: »
    Well that punishment obviously was! He commited a criminal act but all he got was a a good ticking off and thats it. So yes in this instance, justice was not served. Plus, a sex abuser is likely back in the UK and could well strike again. Don't know why that doesn't seem to bother you, but it bothers me and I am sure many parents out there would not be best pleased that a nonce is roaming the streets. There are enough as it is, so why protect this one??

    You didn't really answer my question either.
    Jane Doh! wrote: »
    Do you know who all the nonces are in your community?
    Jane Doh! wrote: »
    Why? You don't know all the other nonces. Why do you need to know the name of this one?
    Jane Doh! wrote: »
    Why this one? Why not all the others that are living in your community? Don't you want to know their names?
    Jane Doh! wrote: »
    Along with every other sex pest whose name you don't know.

    I don't understand why you feel you have the right to know the identity of this one man
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    Jane Doh!Jane Doh! Posts: 43,307
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    Pull2Open wrote: »
    Ok you are now clearly on the wind up and baiting!
    Pull2Open wrote: »
    They're baiting now which makes the obtuseness a lot clearer!

    Very obvious.
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