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Hazel: Homewrecker / Victim
Littlegreen42
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This forum is a complete contradiction, one week Hazel is the 'Homewrecker' completely rubbing Daley's girlfriends face in it...
Then after a drunken evening which escalated in BOTH parties attempting physical violence on each other, Daley is removed and Hazel is the innocent victim - Role model for strong women...
Daley's behaviour was beyond disgusting and he obviously has issues he needs serious help with, but she was also violent...
Then after a drunken evening which escalated in BOTH parties attempting physical violence on each other, Daley is removed and Hazel is the innocent victim - Role model for strong women...
Daley's behaviour was beyond disgusting and he obviously has issues he needs serious help with, but she was also violent...
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I've always found Hazel to be fine. She wasn't the one with the girlfriend and she wasn't the one that wrote "I LIKE YOU" on his arm first.
I don't understand why people are so black and white.
Can she not be a bitch but also be a victim in this case? I don't get it.
Neither do I; it doesn't have to be either/or. She is a schemer who doesn't give a stuff for people's feelings, but she was also a victim of Daley's aggression.
You really don't get it, do you?
If Daley hadn't put his face close hers and threatened to head-butt her he would still be in there, the other stuff is not so serious.
The producers are protecting their jobs.
Exactly. In this case, you can have it both ways.
the aggressor was hazel, she tried to smother him, hit him and then humiliated him.
then she plays the victim card.
she wanted him in her bed
she wanted him to be sexually aroused by her
she wanted to direct the nights events
and she did.
daley wasnt interested
daley wanted his duvet
daley told her not to provoke him
daley was sexually abused
daley was always reacting not being pro active.
at no time did she ask for help, nor asked to be removed from the room
she was prompted by bb to claim she felt threatened.
her problem is that she cant control the narrative, except by using dan.
fact is people got to see how her lust, aggressive behaviour and her need to use her sexuality to control men .. and she cant drive a different narrative that makes her the victim alone
You could say the same for him. I'm not defending or condoning either of them ...... but acts of violence don't necessarily have to be verbal. Taking his verbal "threats" out of the equation, her behaviour differed very little, up until that point. Imo
Anyway that is beside the point, Hazel was a victim of Daley's aggression, whatever else she might be and might have been.
bravo:) couldnt have put it better if i tried:)
She's very cold , bit twisted inside
Totally agree, can't wait for her to be evicted!
Is she a victim ? yes as although she provoked him she had no way to know BB had failed so badly at judging his character when they put them all in there.
Most people would be hindered by the fact that he was talking about how much he loved his girlfriend during the first few weeks instead she saw it as a challenge there was no guilt or remorse shown just determination to get someone who was already taken
^This^
I actually had Daley down as one of my favourites at the beginning. He disappointed me by not being upfront about his gf and was economical with the truth about it. I never agreed that she was the homewrecker in the first place. Again BB spun this line by inviting Katie onto the show. That's when the backlash really kicked off against Hazel, that along with showing the edits of the two of them in the worst possible light.
Sorry, but I didn't see much evidence of Daley saying how much he loved his gf at all. He was always ambiguous about this and giving whoever he was speaking to a different version.
It's not flipped from "Homewrecker Hazel" to "Victim Hazel". There are people who disliked her before and still dislike her, there are people who liked her before and still like her now, and people who disliked her, still aren't overly fond of her, but appreciate that the way Daley was completely wrong. I'd say the general feeling on here though is of dislike for Hazel still.
IF she didn't know, then she was the only HM in there who didn't ........
I smell a rat and have always smelled one with this girl. Its all contrived.
I do think there's an element of her using her sexuality with men. I agree with you about Dan. That was where I began to dislike Hazel a bit and thought what the heck are you doing. However, Dan was the one who drew a line under it and she accepted it. Daley, however, from what we seen from the footage, was the one who initiated the first contact with Hazel by writing on her arm. That said, it was clear that their was a chemistry between them. So I thought fine let them get on with it so long as Daley is clear to Hazel about the girlfriend situation. He never was. I'm sure if he had been she'd have stopped just as she did with Dan.