He has acted outside of his knowledge, been found to mislead the court at a murder trial, twice, and produced science that a child at school would be embarrassed by.
All the time he was effectively being paid by a killer.
Feel sorry for Reeva.
Why tell me to feel sorry for Reeva? Of course I feel sorry for Reeva. I am just hoping that nobody decides to act on the death threats that he is receivng. Why would you think that expressing concern about that would mean I don't feel for Reeva and her family.
Just watching Sky catch up. When OP isn't covering his ears he is watching Dixon with absolute fury. Anyone else notice his thundering facial expression?
If looks could kill, Dixon would have keeled over stone dead !!! Talk about venom !!! I can only imagine the conversation with Roux afterwards. Indeed its probably a good job his firearm is safely out of his hands or Roux may have been accident number 2 for putting such an unprepared witness who did nothing but aid the prosecution on the stand. Mind you, maybe after OP took to blaming Roux on the stand, Roux is secretly enjoying this.
If looks could kill, Dixon would have keeled over stone dead !!! Talk about venom !!! I can only imagine the conversation with Roux afterwards. Indeed its probably a good job his firearm is safely out of his hands or Roux may have been accident number 2 for putting such an unprepared witness who did nothing but aid the prosecution on the stand. Mind you, maybe after OP took to blaming Roux on the stand, Roux is secretly enjoying this.
Just watched the latest on Sky. I seriously just can't understand what the defence were thinking putting Dixon on the stand. Do they have nobody else to testify for them? Roux must have known how weak he was. Just why put him on the stand?
Yes. Undoubtedly the light and sound tests were a bit amateurish, but it's not as if we have any other testing to counter them.
I did think Nel shot himself in the foot (so hard to avoid that phrase) by saying that perception of light is subjective, so suggesting Dixon should've used an instrument to measure it objectively. But if it's subjective, then what use is it to measure it objectively? That wouldn't tell us how Pistorius perceived the level of light/darkness; according to Nel himself only Pistorius can tell us that.
I also don't quite understand the goal of Nel's questioning on the sound tests. OK, so he's established they weren't carried out very scientifically. Are we therefore supposed to conclude that the bat and gunshots don't sound the same? If so, what did the witnesses hear? This part of the prosecution is still very fuzzy.
- OP cracked/broke the door panel first with 3 strikes of the cricket bat
- OP then shot 4 rounds into the door
- OP broke apart the door panel with his hands to reach the key and open the door
Interesting theory that fits a lot of what the witnesses saw/heard that evening
It completely fits the witness' evidence, and what's more it proves the prosecution's case.
the shot to Reeva's head would have meant she died instantly, and Oscar initially testified that Reeva was NOT breathing when he got to her - and couple of breaths after the shot to her head, Oscar would not have seen , as he was finding ways to break down that door and breaking in at the time - so his story is ridiculous when he changed it to SHE WAS BREATHING when he got to her.
It may have already been spoken about Sandy. But even after some time after death, the body can make noises.
Martin Hood, who's appearing on Sky News now as a Legal pundit - has said that he thinks Oscar should be considering his Not Guilty Plea now !
I thought he raised interesting points. He is also a defence attorney and he is definitely suggesting the wheels are off the defence case and a plea is where they should be going. Many on here for the last few days have said this.
It's interesting that Sky who have remained fairly neutral until now are seem to be suggesting that the defence are in trouble.
I was surprised that the defence expert said that Dixon was their big gun as far as expert witnessess go. That does not look good for the case.
Just watched the latest on Sky. I seriously just can't understand what the defence were thinking putting Dixon on the stand. Do they have nobody else to testify for them? Roux must have known how weak he was. Just why put him on the stand?
Like 'what came before the Big Bang?', it's just one of those questions that will probably always remain a mystery.
Just watched the latest on Sky. I seriously just can't understand what the defence were thinking putting Dixon on the stand. Do they have nobody else to testify for them? Roux must have known how weak he was. Just why put him on the stand?
Probably because he was gathering 'evidence' up until 3 days ago when he was aware of what the evidence needed to say.
Bit unfortunate that he contradicted some of OP version .
- OP cracked/broke the door panel first with 3 strikes of the cricket bat
- OP then shot 4 rounds into the door
- OP broke apart the door panel with his hands to reach the key and open the door
Interesting theory that fits a lot of what the witnesses saw/heard that evening
I'm beginning to think they just don't have much else.
Why ask Dixon to be chief cook and bottle washer - to cover all forensic aspects? It seems mad.
They had Botha - ineffectual in damaging the State case, and they seem to have Dixon for everything else
If they had their own ballistics, blood spatter expert etc. Why not put them on first?
I suspect that more than one 'expert' may have dropped out, or come to conclusions that don't serve the defense so can't be used.
It's looking seriously bad for the defense that so far they have had Botha and Dixon.
I've seen it suggested that money is an issue for the defence (although I find that unlikely). Or they couldn't get anyone else or someone from the defence cocked it up by trying to take shortcuts. Someone also said that the defence does have other expert witnesses, which makes one ask 'Why have Roger Radish at all?'
Oh my goodness I can finally post! I've been lurking for a while and completely addicted to this thread, let alone the trial!
So... now I can post, of course I'm a bit overwhelmed and anyway I've missed the boat (for two weeks anyway )
Random thoughts that I wanted to post along the way...
OP says he screams like a girl... if he does go to prison, there's every chance that will be tested to the full
If he ends up on house arrest I'll be incensed. He'll continue to live a pampered life surrounded and supported by equally deluded relatives but he won't be let out to play with guns any more. But no doubt he will get to play with virtual ones and shoot plenty of zombies. I wish I could be under house arrest, beats going out to work for a living!
I do think he's going to prison though. I really can't quite believe he isn't there now, bail always seemed to me to be an outrageous mistake. He's clearly irresponsible to the point of being a grave and continued danger to others, even if he didn't commit murder.
I'm still wavering between murder in a fit of rage and thinking he may have been so deluded as to think firing bullets through the door would scare Reeva witless but not actually kill her.
I don't know if this would fit everything but maybe they argued, Reeva goes to put her jeans on and get ready to walk out on him, he gets nasty and aggressive, rips the jeans off her, she storms off to the loo and actually does get to have a wee, he grabs his gun and fires through the door to scare her, realises she's been hit, is panicked out of rage and then everything from there is him realising the full horror of what he's done.
Can anyone clear up a question about the bin bags... I've been looking but can't find the facts. Someone in an earlier post mentioned that he might, for a fleeting moment, have thought about disposing of the body - chilling thought, but could he have got the bin bags in that moment, then when witnesses were there used them to stem the bleeding?
Ok sorry for the blithering! So glad I can post now, thanks to everyone for the links and the smiles and the updates.
I agree & think Roux is not remotely enamoured with OP on a personal level and as Conchie said has no problem with OP getting what's coming to him. I imagine he & Nel have in reality very similar opinions on the matter.
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Why tell me to feel sorry for Reeva? Of course I feel sorry for Reeva. I am just hoping that nobody decides to act on the death threats that he is receivng. Why would you think that expressing concern about that would mean I don't feel for Reeva and her family.
10:20 and your off to bed
If looks could kill, Dixon would have keeled over stone dead !!! Talk about venom !!! I can only imagine the conversation with Roux afterwards. Indeed its probably a good job his firearm is safely out of his hands or Roux may have been accident number 2 for putting such an unprepared witness who did nothing but aid the prosecution on the stand. Mind you, maybe after OP took to blaming Roux on the stand, Roux is secretly enjoying this.
I think he should be played by Rowan Atkinson in full Mr Bean mode
I think he's ducking and diving
BIB 10/10
Same here. I'm on Tramadol for my back as well. It does make you woozy doesn't it? I hope you feel better soon x
It completely fits the witness' evidence, and what's more it proves the prosecution's case.
It may have already been spoken about Sandy. But even after some time after death, the body can make noises.
I thought he raised interesting points. He is also a defence attorney and he is definitely suggesting the wheels are off the defence case and a plea is where they should be going. Many on here for the last few days have said this.
It's interesting that Sky who have remained fairly neutral until now are seem to be suggesting that the defence are in trouble.
I was surprised that the defence expert said that Dixon was their big gun as far as expert witnessess go. That does not look good for the case.
Like 'what came before the Big Bang?', it's just one of those questions that will probably always remain a mystery.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/17/pistorius-expert-witness-joking-reputation-destroyed
I'm beginning to think they just don't have much else.
Why ask Dixon to be chief cook and bottle washer - to cover all forensic aspects? It seems mad.
They had Botha - ineffectual in damaging the State case, and they seem to have Dixon for everything else
If they had their own ballistics, blood spatter expert etc. Why not put them on first?
I suspect that more than one 'expert' may have dropped out, or come to conclusions that don't serve the defense so can't be used.
It's looking seriously bad for the defense that so far they have had Botha and Dixon.
If so, the defense is stuffed.
Probably because he was gathering 'evidence' up until 3 days ago when he was aware of what the evidence needed to say.
Bit unfortunate that he contradicted some of OP version .
I think they are stuffed anyway. They were believing OP .
Anyhoo, rather like Roux there's only 1 wheel on my wagon so I'm wheeling my way to bed. .:)
I've seen it suggested that money is an issue for the defence (although I find that unlikely). Or they couldn't get anyone else or someone from the defence cocked it up by trying to take shortcuts. Someone also said that the defence does have other expert witnesses, which makes one ask 'Why have Roger Radish at all?'
Back pains (spasms) are often well suited to treatment with Diazepam.
So... now I can post, of course I'm a bit overwhelmed and anyway I've missed the boat (for two weeks anyway
Random thoughts that I wanted to post along the way...
OP says he screams like a girl... if he does go to prison, there's every chance that will be tested to the full
If he ends up on house arrest I'll be incensed. He'll continue to live a pampered life surrounded and supported by equally deluded relatives but he won't be let out to play with guns any more. But no doubt he will get to play with virtual ones and shoot plenty of zombies. I wish I could be under house arrest, beats going out to work for a living!
I do think he's going to prison though. I really can't quite believe he isn't there now, bail always seemed to me to be an outrageous mistake. He's clearly irresponsible to the point of being a grave and continued danger to others, even if he didn't commit murder.
I'm still wavering between murder in a fit of rage and thinking he may have been so deluded as to think firing bullets through the door would scare Reeva witless but not actually kill her.
I don't know if this would fit everything but maybe they argued, Reeva goes to put her jeans on and get ready to walk out on him, he gets nasty and aggressive, rips the jeans off her, she storms off to the loo and actually does get to have a wee, he grabs his gun and fires through the door to scare her, realises she's been hit, is panicked out of rage and then everything from there is him realising the full horror of what he's done.
Can anyone clear up a question about the bin bags... I've been looking but can't find the facts. Someone in an earlier post mentioned that he might, for a fleeting moment, have thought about disposing of the body - chilling thought, but could he have got the bin bags in that moment, then when witnesses were there used them to stem the bleeding?
Ok sorry for the blithering! So glad I can post now, thanks to everyone for the links and the smiles and the updates.
I think it's pretty much all over now anyway. I'll be astonished if he isn't found guilty of the premeditated murder of Steenkamp.
I agree & think Roux is not remotely enamoured with OP on a personal level and as Conchie said has no problem with OP getting what's coming to him. I imagine he & Nel have in reality very similar opinions on the matter.