Hardly there has been a Scottish independence referendum, there hasn't been one on leaving the EU.
Exactly, that would really push the independence vote envelope. Should they leave the EU and go go it alone with the rest of UK or be restricted to having their hand in one till only - the EU one.
2 Scottish referenda, one said yes but it didn't count, the other said no
1 EEC/EU referendum
Actually it was three Scottish referenda - two for devolution where one didn't count because it included a clause analagous to what Sturgeon wants for Europe where a super-majority is required - the other one said yes (twice).
And one for indepenence which was a no.
So the SNP prefer the super-majority requirements in all future referendum do they......
I see Alex's master plan to come back and save the SNP from Sturgeon's incompetence in 2015 is on track even before she is formally crowned as "interim" leader
Of course we could do it the old way and say that a vote to leave had to pass a 50% vote as well as 40% of the electorate (so it would need >50% on an 80% turnout - or 80% leave on a 50% turnout))
Of course we could do it the old way and say that a vote to leave had to pass a 50% vote as well as 40% of the electorate (so it would need >50% on an 80% turnout)
Or do it how it was done for the Scottish independence referendum, a simple majority.
Obviously missed that funny referendum thingy - the one her party lost. The people of Scotland voted to be a part of the United Kingdom - and they are members of the EU as part of the United Kingdom - they are not separate countries.
It is a simple matter of voting - if more than 50% say out - then out we come.
Good bit of politics from Nicola She knows full well that this will not happen but it is a great way to appeal to the 60+% of Scots who are in favour of remaining part of the EU
Might even get a few oddballs who are considering voting Tory to vote SNP
Good bit of politics from Nicola She knows full well that this will not happen but it is a great way to appeal to the 60+% of Scots who are in favour of remaining part of the EU
Might even get a few oddballs who are considering voting Tory to vote SNP
Good bit of politics??
It's the most cock-eyed piece of policy on the hoof I've seen for a long time.
Good bit of politics from Nicola She knows full well that this will not happen but it is a great way to appeal to the 60+% of Scots who are in favour of remaining part of the EU
Might even get a few oddballs who are considering voting Tory to vote SNP
Do you agree the idea should be extended to any future Scottish referendum on UK membership?
Let's just imagine that England, Wales & Northern Ireland vote to leave (more than 50% of each of these 3 vote out), Then Scotland with a population of about 5m where 2.6m (for example) vote to stay in.....that's not Democracy.
Nicola Sturgeon is clearly still bitter over the Independence issue so now she's trying to make a name for herself by going after the 1 Issue she knows she can wind the English up with.
Why does it always have to be about England? Our esteemed PM called us a "family of nations" so the whole "family" should be united.
Incidentally, has anyone mentioned electoral fraud yet?
The UK is not a unitary state it is a family of nations, it is made up of the four home nations.
The UK is a unitary state. It is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Wales was conquered and annexed. Scotland and Ireland joined in an Act of Union (the clue is in the words - Union, Unitary:D).
Certain regions of the UK are granted devolution to a greater of lesser extent. Those regions may or may not co-incide with historical countries.
All the relevant EU treaties are signed with the nation state. The UK. Not England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland
As the Scottish Government acknowledges
European legislation is developed in consultation with all Member States and goes through a process which allows different national concerns to be taken into account before the final text is agreed.
Whilst the UK is the Member State, the Scottish Government plays an active role in the development of a coordinated UK position when EU legislation is being developed
NS is pandering to those stupid enough to believe her.
Exactly, SNP supporters never expect the SNP to do anything to make Scotland better, because they already blame all of Scotland's problems on the b@st@rd English. All the SNP have to do is to appeal to their core constituency of semi-literate scroungers and ranting obsessives by finding new ever-more grievances they can blame on the English for.
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Ah yes the SNP, the cake and halfpenny party.
Much more common than an EU referendum.
Bit early to say!
Hardly there has been a Scottish independence referendum, there hasn't been one on leaving the EU.
You could take this to the logical conclusion where every single person had to agree.
Classic piece of SNP democracy.
2 Scottish referenda, one said yes but it didn't count, the other said no
1 EEC/EU referendum
I amended the last one for you as there has never been a referendum on the EU.
Exactly, that would really push the independence vote envelope. Should they leave the EU and go go it alone with the rest of UK or be restricted to having their hand in one till only - the EU one.
Actually it was three Scottish referenda - two for devolution where one didn't count because it included a clause analagous to what Sturgeon wants for Europe where a super-majority is required - the other one said yes (twice).
And one for indepenence which was a no.
So the SNP prefer the super-majority requirements in all future referendum do they......
I see Alex's master plan to come back and save the SNP from Sturgeon's incompetence in 2015 is on track even before she is formally crowned as "interim" leader
Or do it how it was done for the Scottish independence referendum, a simple majority.
I bet not.
Obviously missed that funny referendum thingy - the one her party lost. The people of Scotland voted to be a part of the United Kingdom - and they are members of the EU as part of the United Kingdom - they are not separate countries.
It is a simple matter of voting - if more than 50% say out - then out we come.
Give it time.
It has had more than enough of that.
Not for the next 20 years, they already had one.
Besides Scotland is the most Euro sceptic part fo the UK if the 1975 referendum is anything to go by.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_European_Communities_membership_referendum,_1975
Might even get a few oddballs who are considering voting Tory to vote SNP
Good bit of politics??
It's the most cock-eyed piece of policy on the hoof I've seen for a long time.
Do you agree the idea should be extended to any future Scottish referendum on UK membership?
Why does it always have to be about England? Our esteemed PM called us a "family of nations" so the whole "family" should be united.
Incidentally, has anyone mentioned electoral fraud yet?
http://wingsoverscotland.com/from-the-office-of-ed-miliband/
LOL - another SNP tin foil lost causer
According to the soon to be "Not-Quite-So Dear Leader as the One Before"
The UK is a unitary state. It is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Wales was conquered and annexed. Scotland and Ireland joined in an Act of Union (the clue is in the words - Union, Unitary:D).
Certain regions of the UK are granted devolution to a greater of lesser extent. Those regions may or may not co-incide with historical countries.
All the relevant EU treaties are signed with the nation state. The UK. Not England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland
As the Scottish Government acknowledges
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/International/Europe/Legislation
Exactly, SNP supporters never expect the SNP to do anything to make Scotland better, because they already blame all of Scotland's problems on the b@st@rd English. All the SNP have to do is to appeal to their core constituency of semi-literate scroungers and ranting obsessives by finding new ever-more grievances they can blame on the English for.
Spot on... This is a reserved area, so it's decided by the UK as a whole - she seems to have forgotten that we voted NO.
I personally like this quote from her speech -
"But I do believe - strongly - that our interests are best served by being in, not out, of the EU.
"The impact of an exit on jobs and on the economy would be disastrous."