There's so much wrong with that article I don't know where to begin, although the comment about fortitude made me laugh- That's is a channel that normally gets 100k or less, not prime time BBC One Saturday's- They really messed up Series 1 and could never recover it is the real reason it failed imo
There's so much wrong with that article I don't know where to begin, although the comment about fortitude made me laugh- That's is a channel that normally gets 100k or less, not prime time BBC One Saturday's- They really messed up Series 1 and could never recover it is the real reason it failed imo
Delusional is a word that came to mind. Comparing Atlantis to Breaking Bad. Don't make me laugh!
There's so much wrong with that article I don't know where to begin, although the comment about fortitude made me laugh- That's is a channel that normally gets 100k or less, not prime time BBC One Saturday's- They really messed up Series 1 and could never recover it is the real reason it failed imo
That article is totally hilarious. The comparisons with Netflix are beyond inappropriate, for the precisely the reasons you say, and the claims about the ratings are totally overshadowed by the fact that Atlantis failed to stand up to TXF in the way Merlin did (and was a much better show). Add to that a failure to acknowledge that they messed up one basic thing at the very start - Jason is parachuted into Atlantis and then immediately behaves as if he's always been there and has no memory of the 21st Century beyond his father.
Even funnier is the reveal that Series 3 was going to be Jason & The Argonauts … I bet ITV are reading that with huge relief, and wondering whether or not to green light their version of that.
Well reasoned C14E. Channel 4 are merging entertainment and factual entertainment for the reasons you suggested. Factual delivered more hits.
I should really be running Channel 4.
A sensible move though (although I'd have got rid of formats and music as well). Seems like they're slimming down the entire entertainment commissioning team as well which makes some sense given the current level of output but hopefully they go forward trying to improve their entertainment offering rather than just sideline it. I still think The Voice was a huge missed opportunity for C4 and the success of stuff like Million Pound Drop, 8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown and The Jump in recent years suggests they could pull off an entertainment hit.
A sensible move though (although I'd have got rid of formats and music as well). Seems like they're slimming down the entire entertainment commissioning team as well which makes some sense given the current level of output but hopefully they go forward trying to improve their entertainment offering rather than just sideline it. I still think The Voice was a huge missed opportunity for C4 and the success of stuff like Million Pound Drop, 8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown and The Jump in recent years suggests they could pull off an entertainment hit.
It is an admission that the entertainment department hasn't delivered. Maybe they should merge the drama department with it?
Channel 4 can do entertainment but they have run Million Pound Drop into the ground and 8 Out Of 10 Cats Does Countdown is in danger of burn out. Plus the original is starting to wane.
The Voice thing is funny. Jay Hunt said she didn't want it in an interview then commissioned a blatant copy!
On another topic. Do you know how Pointless and Paul O'Grady did C14E?
5:10 - Film: WALL-E
6:40 - BBC News & Weather
6:55 - Pointless Celebrities
7:45 - Atlantis
8:30 - In It To Win It
9:20 - Casualty
10:10 - BBC News & Weather
10:30 - Match Of The Day
ITV
6 - You've Been Framed!
7 - Ninja Warrior
8 - Britain's Got Talent
9:15 - Play To The Whistle
10 - ITV News & Weather
10:15 - Film: Cliffhanger
Film premiere Dredd is at 10 on Channel 4.
Sunday 3rd
The C Word is at 8:30 on BBC1.
The Stranger On The Bridge is at 9 on Channel 4.
Monday 4th
VE Day: Remembering Victory is at 8:30 on BBC1.
8 Out Of 10 Cats Does Countdown returns at 9 on Channel 4. The final three episodes of Ballot Monkeys are stripped nightly at 10.
Tuesday 5th
Champions League TBA at 7:30 on ITV.
No Offence starts at 9 on Channel 4.
The Canal Trip is at 8 on BBC4.
Wednesday 6th
Charlie Brooker's Election Wipe is at 9 on BBC2.
Thursday 7th
Watchdog At 30 is at 8 on BBC1, followed by Shark at 8:55. General Election coverage from 9:55.
Channel 4's election coverage includes The Last Leg at 9:30 and Gogglebox at 10.
Friday 8th
Question Time is at 8:30 on BBC1, with Have I Got News For You pushed back to 9:30.
5:10 - Film: WALL-E
6:40 - BBC News & Weather
6:55 - Pointless Celebrities
7:45 - Atlantis
8:30 - In It To Win It
9:20 - Casualty
10:10 - BBC News & Weather
10:30 - Match Of The Day
ITV
6 - You've Been Framed!
7 - Ninja Warrior
8 - Britain's Got Talent
9:15 - Play To The Whistle
10 - ITV News & Weather
10:15 - Film: Cliffhanger
Film premiere Dredd is at 10 on Channel 4.
Sunday 3rd
The C Word is at 8:30 on BBC1.
The Stranger On The Bridge is at 9 on Channel 4.
Monday 4th
VE Day: Remembering Victory is at 8:30 on BBC1.
8 Out Of 10 Cats Does Countdown returns at 9 on Channel 4. The final three episodes of Ballot Monkeys are stripped nightly at 10.
Tuesday 5th
Champions League TBA at 7:30 on ITV.
No Offence starts at 9 on Channel 4.
The Canal Trip is at 8 on BBC4.
Wednesday 6th
Charlie Brooker's Election Wipe is at 9 on BBC2.
Thursday 7th
Watchdog At 30 is at 8 on BBC1, followed by Shark at 8:55. General Election coverage from 9:55.
Channel 4's election coverage includes The Last Leg at 9:30 and Gogglebox at 10.
Friday 8th
Question Time is at 8:30 on BBC1, with Have I Got News For You pushed back to 9:30.
The BBC trying to get a jump in on ITV's new drama Home Fires?
BBC2 will air last Clarkson Top Gear episodes in the summer
And Daniel Radcliff and Bill Paxton will star in the grand Theft Auto drama Game Changer too
BBC2 will air last Clarkson Top Gear episodes in the summer
And Daniel Radcliff and Bill Paxton will star in the grand Theft Auto drama Game Changer too
Interesting also to see Two Doors Down getting a full series - it was piloted as a one off on BBC1 on New Years Eve 2013.
If Five Live schedule a phone-in every day at 9am, they clearly think there's little chance of it having to be abandoned for breaking news. LBC do a phone-in at 9am every day as well. Of course, they can do breaking news in this hour, like they can do breaking news on Derbyshire's programme.
What I meant to say was TV news channel. You can populate a radio schedule with phone-ins and drop in and out for news. News channels have more analytical shows later in the day.
Well, yes, and maybe there's an issue that it should only run 9-10am, but people seem to be suggesting that later in the day is when there's "less breaking news", based on what? Parliament's not in session at 9am, America is asleep. Yesterday's live election blog on the Guardian website had nothing happening between 9am and 10am (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2015/apr/20/election-2015-live-nicola-sturgeon-snp-manifesto-scotland-labour-nhs), just reports on things that had been said at breakfast time or stuff coming up later. It's a dead slot. I don't wish to hammer this point home but nobody's explaining why another slot would be better.
That's the other problem. Derbyshire's programme is too long.
I remember that and thought it had been universally panned on here. Seems a bit strange.
I didn't think it was great and wouldn't get a big audience on BBC1. Should have been on BBC2 from day 1, even then I say it shouldn't have been made as it wasn't very funny.
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There's so much wrong with that article I don't know where to begin, although the comment about fortitude made me laugh- That's is a channel that normally gets 100k or less, not prime time BBC One Saturday's- They really messed up Series 1 and could never recover it is the real reason it failed imo
Well that's a sentence I never thought I'd read:o
Delusional is a word that came to mind. Comparing Atlantis to Breaking Bad. Don't make me laugh!
Or Corrie beating EE by 400k? Why do people think they it's EE that is the golden soap that all other ones have to compare to?:D
I wish they'd all drop so low in ratings and get off the air.
I think its just that CS has usually been ahead of EE by at least 1m and sometimes more so that comparison seems relevant.
That article is totally hilarious. The comparisons with Netflix are beyond inappropriate, for the precisely the reasons you say, and the claims about the ratings are totally overshadowed by the fact that Atlantis failed to stand up to TXF in the way Merlin did (and was a much better show). Add to that a failure to acknowledge that they messed up one basic thing at the very start - Jason is parachuted into Atlantis and then immediately behaves as if he's always been there and has no memory of the 21st Century beyond his father.
Even funnier is the reveal that Series 3 was going to be Jason & The Argonauts … I bet ITV are reading that with huge relief, and wondering whether or not to green light their version of that.
BTW, Jonny Capps is not a writer … ;-)
A better than solid start. Safe House started higher than Code Of A Killer.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2015/bbc-two-commissions?ns_mchannel=email&ns_source=inxmail_newsletter&ns_campaign=bbcmediacentre_corporate__&ns_linkname=na&ns_fee=0
https://www.facebook.com/ItvDrama/photos/a.459842267404959.105524.457847194271133/824783674244148/?type=1
plus Jekyll & Hyde
https://www.facebook.com/ItvDrama/photos/a.459842267404959.105524.457847194271133/826280227427826/?type=1
I should really be running Channel 4.
A sensible move though (although I'd have got rid of formats and music as well). Seems like they're slimming down the entire entertainment commissioning team as well which makes some sense given the current level of output but hopefully they go forward trying to improve their entertainment offering rather than just sideline it. I still think The Voice was a huge missed opportunity for C4 and the success of stuff like Million Pound Drop, 8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown and The Jump in recent years suggests they could pull off an entertainment hit.
I like the look of those. Hope they do well as it broadens ITV's drama genres.
It is an admission that the entertainment department hasn't delivered. Maybe they should merge the drama department with it?
Channel 4 can do entertainment but they have run Million Pound Drop into the ground and 8 Out Of 10 Cats Does Countdown is in danger of burn out. Plus the original is starting to wane.
The Voice thing is funny. Jay Hunt said she didn't want it in an interview then commissioned a blatant copy!
On another topic. Do you know how Pointless and Paul O'Grady did C14E?
That will never happen as soaps are the most watched programs on tele so keep on dreaming lol
A Digiguide update.
Saturday 2nd
BBC1
5:10 - Film: WALL-E
6:40 - BBC News & Weather
6:55 - Pointless Celebrities
7:45 - Atlantis
8:30 - In It To Win It
9:20 - Casualty
10:10 - BBC News & Weather
10:30 - Match Of The Day
ITV
6 - You've Been Framed!
7 - Ninja Warrior
8 - Britain's Got Talent
9:15 - Play To The Whistle
10 - ITV News & Weather
10:15 - Film: Cliffhanger
Film premiere Dredd is at 10 on Channel 4.
Sunday 3rd
The C Word is at 8:30 on BBC1.
The Stranger On The Bridge is at 9 on Channel 4.
Monday 4th
VE Day: Remembering Victory is at 8:30 on BBC1.
8 Out Of 10 Cats Does Countdown returns at 9 on Channel 4. The final three episodes of Ballot Monkeys are stripped nightly at 10.
Tuesday 5th
Champions League TBA at 7:30 on ITV.
No Offence starts at 9 on Channel 4.
The Canal Trip is at 8 on BBC4.
Wednesday 6th
Charlie Brooker's Election Wipe is at 9 on BBC2.
Thursday 7th
Watchdog At 30 is at 8 on BBC1, followed by Shark at 8:55. General Election coverage from 9:55.
Channel 4's election coverage includes The Last Leg at 9:30 and Gogglebox at 10.
Friday 8th
Question Time is at 8:30 on BBC1, with Have I Got News For You pushed back to 9:30.
The BBC trying to get a jump in on ITV's new drama Home Fires?
When does Home Fires start? ITV has their own Sheridan Smith drama in June. A police series called Black Work.
And Daniel Radcliff and Bill Paxton will star in the grand Theft Auto drama Game Changer too
Interesting also to see Two Doors Down getting a full series - it was piloted as a one off on BBC1 on New Years Eve 2013.
I think it will start after Vera has finished on Sundays
That's the other problem. Derbyshire's programme is too long.
I remember that and thought it had been universally panned on here. Seems a bit strange.
As we have seen before though good dramas can coexist and I would expect both of these to do well.
I thought that was the BBC1 comedy. Another BBC1 programme shifting to BBC2. I see no problem with this. Some shows just don't fit some channels.
I didn't think it was great and wouldn't get a big audience on BBC1. Should have been on BBC2 from day 1, even then I say it shouldn't have been made as it wasn't very funny.