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sexual harassment for WOLF-WHISTLING

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    FrankieFixerFrankieFixer Posts: 11,530
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    She went to the police when a guy said 'morning love' to her.
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    Victim Of FateVictim Of Fate Posts: 5,157
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    She went to the police when a guy said 'morning love' to her.

    Right, but that seems like it's taken out of context. He said it while standing in her way, moving in very close to her, after she had been cat-called repeatedly for a month.

    In what way is what happened anything less that sexual harassment?
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    SJ_MentalSJ_Mental Posts: 16,138
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    As I posted last night as someone who has been harassed by females it isn't pleasant when unwanted, And when it is day after day of it it gets embarrassing and extremely effing annoying.
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    FrankieFixerFrankieFixer Posts: 11,530
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    Right, but that seems like it's taken out of context. He said it while standing in her way, moving in very close to her, after she had been cat-called repeatedly for a month.

    In what way is what happened anything less that sexual harassment?

    I put her in this category of people who frivolously waste police time:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/6918327/Police-compile-list-of-most-ridiculous-time-wasting-999-calls.html
    One caller who dialled 999 to demand police prosecute a Chinese takeaway because the meal he was expecting was 45 minutes late.

    Another dialled the emergency number when she woke up in a panic because her duvet was covering her head.

    Any of her future claims will be under severe scrutiny given this overreaction.
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    Andy2Andy2 Posts: 11,951
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    Sadly, this lady is a product of years of mind-bending 'anti-bullying' education in our socialist school system. If anyone as much as looks at you sideways it's called bullying, and even a compliment is viewed as sexism.
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    ElectraElectra Posts: 55,660
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    I guess their free speech trumps your offence.

    You don't appear to know what Freedom Of Speech actually is. 'The right to speak without censorship or restraint by the government'

    It doesn't actually apply here.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 356
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    Anyone should have the right to walk the street without feeling harassed but whether this lady really was harassed seems difficult to determine.

    While I think going to the police over wolf whistles or the odd comment alone is absurd, if she was getting lewd comments too then I think it's less trivial than it sounds. The thing about men who do this stuff to women is that they can make even seemingly innocent comments seem dirty and unpleasant and I personally wouldn't want to feel like I was "running the gauntlet" every morning when just trying to get to work. A lot of people underestimate the potential levels of discomfort caused by what they see as "banter", I think.

    I feel it might be a little too easy to write women like this lady off as being ridiculous or pathetic, at times.
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    FrankieFixerFrankieFixer Posts: 11,530
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    Electra wrote: »
    You don't appear to know what Freedom Of Speech actually is. 'The right to speak without censorship or restraint by the government'

    It doesn't actually apply here.

    It does. If you want to jail people for what they are saying or whistling at you then what else is it an attack on but a freedom of expression?
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    ElectraElectra Posts: 55,660
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    It does. If you want to jail people for what they are saying or whistling at you then what else is it an attack on but a freedom of expression?

    Harassment is an offence. Walking to work isn't. See where this is going?

    Freedom to be a complete arse stops when it adversely affects other people

    Use your 'freedom of expression' to call a black man the n-word on the street. See where that gets you
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    FrankieFixerFrankieFixer Posts: 11,530
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    Electra wrote: »
    Harassment is an offence. Walking to work isn't. See where this is going?

    Freedom to be a complete arse stops when it adversely affects other people

    Use your 'freedom of expression' to call a black man the n-word on the street. See where that gets you

    If it was harassment then why wouldn't the police be involved? Because maybe saying 'morning love' or whistling isn't a police matter no matter how much you want to jail people who don't act the way you want them to?

    You wanting to erode out liberties because you don't like something isn't on.
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    scottie2121scottie2121 Posts: 11,284
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    I'd rather live in a country with the heretics free to express themselves rather than one with your puritanical 'ban this sick filth' worldview. I suppose the police who dismissed this Poppy's claims were an extension of this supposed cult of 'nasty group of women haters' for daring to challenge the ridiculousness of her trivial complaints?

    Hilarious response from an 'adult'. :D
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    NorwoodCemeteryNorwoodCemetery Posts: 1,653
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    Andy2 wrote: »
    Sadly, this lady is a product of years of mind-bending 'anti-bullying' education in our socialist school system. If anyone as much as looks at you sideways it's called bullying, and even a compliment is viewed as sexism.
    We are a squeeze of lemon juice away from a complete madhouse society in which anything we don't like can be a legitimate source of 'offence'.

    What's the betting that if builder's ignored women completely, someone would still complain?
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    grimtales1grimtales1 Posts: 46,697
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    Electra wrote: »
    Harassment is an offence. Walking to work isn't. See where this is going?

    Freedom to be a complete arse stops when it adversely affects other people

    Use your 'freedom of expression' to call a black man the n-word on the street. See where that gets you

    Does that mean we dont actually have freedom of expression?
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    FrankieFixerFrankieFixer Posts: 11,530
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    Hilarious response from an 'adult'. :D

    You want people jailed for whistling, I mean that is ISIS or Taliban territory. :D
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    FrankieFixerFrankieFixer Posts: 11,530
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    Electra wrote: »
    Harassment is an offence. Walking to work isn't. See where this is going?

    Freedom to be a complete arse stops when it adversely affects other people

    Use your 'freedom of expression' to call a black man the n-word on the street. See where that gets you

    Like Charlie Hebdo? Remember Je Suis Charlie? Over a billion Muslims offended supposedly, should we stop that or ban it or jail people?
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    ElectraElectra Posts: 55,660
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    Like Charlie Hebdo? Remember Je Suis Charlie? Over a billion Muslims offended supposedly, should we stop that or ban it or jail people?

    Yes, it was satire of a religion & easily avoided by not looking at the magazine. Not really the same a singling out an individual on the street.
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    HeavySaurusHeavySaurus Posts: 4,767
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    If it was harassment then why wouldn't the police be involved? Because maybe saying 'morning love' or whistling isn't a police matter no matter how much you want to jail people who don't act the way you want them to?

    You wanting to erode out liberties because you don't like something isn't on.

    The police WAS involved. They reported it to the company and advised them to address it. That's involvement.
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    codebluecodeblue Posts: 14,072
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    It the headlines it can appear that she complained to the police purely because if whistling.

    However, reading further it reveals that some of the people were standing in her way on the pavement, blocking her path. This puts it on an all together MUCH more intimidating level and she had every right to contact the police.

    What guys see as banter and a method of talking to someone they fancy, by blocking their path, is absolutely horrible. And possibly terrifying.

    If you have ever had it happen to you, then you would know why she took this further.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,296
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    If it was harassment then why wouldn't the police be involved? Because maybe saying 'morning love' or whistling isn't a police matter no matter how much you want to jail people who don't act the way you want them to?

    You wanting to erode out liberties because you don't like something isn't on.

    Some things wouldn't be considered harrassment even if the person doing it every day knew that the other person didn't like it at all.
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    Jean-FrancoisJean-Francois Posts: 2,301
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    grimtales1 wrote: »
    I read this story in the OP too - ridiculous, why didnt she just tell them to stop if she didnt like it? The police have much more important things to do.


    Why didn't she tell them to stop if she didn't like it?!
    You couldn't make it up.
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    FrankieFixerFrankieFixer Posts: 11,530
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    Electra wrote: »
    Yes, it was satire of a religion & easily avoided by not looking at the magazine. Not really the same a singling out an individual on the street.

    One entitled white woman's hurt feelings are worth more than a billion Muslims. Interesting.
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    The WulfrunianThe Wulfrunian Posts: 1,312
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    We are a squeeze of lemon juice away from a complete madhouse society in which anything we don't like can be a legitimate source of 'offence'.

    What's the betting that if builder's ignored women completely, someone would still complain?

    No we're reading a forum where a load of blokes are aggrieved that they can't get away with shite that was the norm for previous generations.
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    LaineyTLaineyT Posts: 6,395
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    Cant remember the last time somebody wolf whistled at me :p
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,296
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    grimtales1 wrote: »
    I read this story in the OP too - ridiculous, why didnt she just tell them to stop if she didnt like it? The police have much more important things to do.

    Not all women have the courage to speak up when they don't like men whistling or shouting comments to them.
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    SOHCAHTOA88SOHCAHTOA88 Posts: 2,314
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    What is the world coming to when men lose the right to harass women.
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