Labour should know from Scotland they can't take their northern vote for granted
So you tell me why do Labour need to reconnect with the north when most of the east and west is a sea of red Labour?!
Scottish Labour is not interlinked with UK Labour. Scottish Labour have their own issues they need to fix that are unconnected to the stuff going on in England.
Isn't he immensely rich though? He could easily afford to drop a few quid, get the bookies to shorten the odds a bit, stir up some publicity.....just saying
So you tell me why do Labour need to reconnect with the north when most of the east and west is a sea of red Labour?!
Scottish Labour is not interlinked with UK Labour. Scottish Labour have their own issues they need to fix that are unconnected to the stuff going on in England.
Look at the UKIP vote in the North and look where it came from.
5 years of Tories and Labour ending up with reduced majorities in many Northern seats
All this talk of UKIP being a big threat... are we forgetting something??
We are having a referendum in 2017 on Europe. UKIP will be finished as a party once that happens as there will be no where else for them to go. What will they have left to sell after that?
UKIP aren't a threat to anyone anymore. 2015 was their big chance and they blew it.
I must say. I find it fascinating just how concerned about Labour the Tory fanbois on here are. I'm come to the conclusion who ever they dislike is the one Labour need.
I must say. I find it fascinating just how concerned about Labour the Tory fanbois on here are. I'm come to the conclusion who ever they dislike is the one Labour need.
Whoever it is, I hope it is not signalling the return of Neil Kinnock! He's scummier than a scumster living in Scumville.
I must say. I find it fascinating just how concerned about Labour the Tory fanbois on here are. I'm come to the conclusion who ever they dislike is the one Labour need.
I must say. I find it fascinating just how concerned about Labour the Tory fanbois on here are. I'm come to the conclusion who ever they dislike is the one Labour need.
I'm not keen on Burnham. I would prefer Cooper over him but like you I hope its one of the 2010s. I think Tristram is my fave out of those in the running.
Ditto to the bit in bold but to be fair its only Tory supporters on here who keep going on about Labour's lost support in the north. I don't think they understand the Labour vote.
How many Labour seats up north were lost?
All but one in Scotland obviously. But what about the north of England?
If London is metropolitan how come "far right" Boris manage to win it.
Your contradicting yourself
My recollection is that Boris second election win as mayor wasn't a sweeping victory and the breakdown of votes by borough didn't bode well for any future tory London mayor given demographic change.
I can't see him doing well. If you didn't tell people he was Labour people would naturally conclude he's a Tory.
I would say that is very much to his advantage.
Thee is a saying - People like people like themselves. So while it maybe that once the die hard Labour support would have preferred a candidate with dirt under his nails and the sweat of honest labour around his blue collar, it may not appeal to the middle classes and floating voters.
The die hard Labour voter is no longer characterised in the way it once was and in any case the Labour faithful would vote for the Downing Street cat, if it were running on a Labour ticket. But its not them you need to appeal to, to get enough votes to get into office.
And apparently OK with Farage, the son of a City of London stockbroker who went to a public school and later became a commodities trader in the City
Precisely. I actually think some people are insulting the intelligence of working class voters by parodying them based on a lot of half baked assumptions.
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So you tell me why do Labour need to reconnect with the north when most of the east and west is a sea of red Labour?!
Scottish Labour is not interlinked with UK Labour. Scottish Labour have their own issues they need to fix that are unconnected to the stuff going on in England.
Yeah metropolitan London..
And one interview? when Boris was an MP in the 00s they used to keep him away from the cameras!
Especially as UKIP seem to be making inroads in the north.
Isn't he immensely rich though? He could easily afford to drop a few quid, get the bookies to shorten the odds a bit, stir up some publicity.....just saying
Look at the UKIP vote in the North and look where it came from.
5 years of Tories and Labour ending up with reduced majorities in many Northern seats
We are having a referendum in 2017 on Europe. UKIP will be finished as a party once that happens as there will be no where else for them to go. What will they have left to sell after that?
UKIP aren't a threat to anyone anymore. 2015 was their big chance and they blew it.
If London is metropolitan how come "far right" Boris manage to win it.
Your contradicting yourself
Whoever it is, I hope it is not signalling the return of Neil Kinnock! He's scummier than a scumster living in Scumville.
I disliked Ed very much.
Well we had Kinnock reincarnated via Miliband. I don't even think Labour are capable of repeating the same mistake for a 3rd time.
I disliked Miliband .
How many Labour seats up north were lost?
All but one in Scotland obviously. But what about the north of England?
This must mean that he is the right man for the job, with Kinnock as his number two.
That will proper annoy the Tory fanbois.
My recollection is that Boris second election win as mayor wasn't a sweeping victory and the breakdown of votes by borough didn't bode well for any future tory London mayor given demographic change.
Who was Boris up against in 2012?
Ken Livingstone.
Didn't rate Ed, rated David. Was I wrong?
I would say that is very much to his advantage.
Thee is a saying - People like people like themselves. So while it maybe that once the die hard Labour support would have preferred a candidate with dirt under his nails and the sweat of honest labour around his blue collar, it may not appeal to the middle classes and floating voters.
The die hard Labour voter is no longer characterised in the way it once was and in any case the Labour faithful would vote for the Downing Street cat, if it were running on a Labour ticket. But its not them you need to appeal to, to get enough votes to get into office.
.... and he is better looking than Cameron so the right wing press will be stuffed when it comes to needless personal attacks.
Thanks both of you.
Livingstone pushing his luck going for a third term is what I feel made the difference.
Precisely. I actually think some people are insulting the intelligence of working class voters by parodying them based on a lot of half baked assumptions.