Also,why is BBC supporting someone who abused a colleague?Would they have put Saville on to chair a chat show i wonder.....probably!
Hmm lets see, Clarkson apologised directly to the individual and reported himself to his own boss, Saville had people lying for him for years and denied everything and was never punished. Further Saville abused vulnerable people, whereas and later establised Clarkson was in a vulnerable state due to his cancer scare and was pushed to the edge by it.
Yes Clarkson does come out with some very non-PC comments but does apologise if they go over the line of acceptability.
What Clarkson did was wrong but Richard Osman clearly showed that part of the BBC who clearly hated him.
Back to the show, this has to be one of the worst examples of editing a show. The flow completely changed mid sentence and segments clearly cut out.
Osman's remarks might've gone down better 4 months back but the story is done now and he's missed his moment with them. Tragedy plus time = Comedy but in this case too much time has passed.
Clarkson has been an excellent host & guest in the past.
From seeing how his mood went downhill, it seems he just thought "I'm just gonna keep shtum, read the script and get it over with".
With the usual level of good humoured p**staking it would have been a good show, but if the producers knew that Osman despises JC (from his autobiography) then this was obviously set up to be "event TV"
Failed spectacularly. Just ruined the show.
from Osman's autobiography or Clarkson's ? what does he say ?
Osman really made a tit of himself there , he's usually pretty funny , but he just came across as vindictive and killed the mood of the show
That was absolutely atrocious tv.
I know we all like to have a go at dear old JC, but the Osman creature was truly obnoxious.
There's a big difference between banter and being an out and out vindictive, baiting little troll.
Unfortunately, Osman doesn't seem know (or care) where the line is and came across as a third rate tosser with a substantial chip on his shoulder.
The rest of the show (sans Osman) was damned funny though.
Osman just came across as a jerk. At one point as a TG fan I kinda felt he was insulting me! Which is rich coming from a man who hails from Deal or no deal.
Osman was being generally obnoxious and obviously baiting Clarkson to get a reaction.
That Clarkson, to his credit, from what we saw was having none of it and just didn't react just made Osman look a even bigger pillock than he already is
Apart from Osman, overall I enjoyed the show though
Clarkson has been an excellent host & guest in the past.
From seeing how his mood went downhill, it seems he just thought "I'm just gonna keep shtum, read the script and get it over with".
With the usual level of good humoured p**staking it would have been a good show, but if the producers knew that Osman despises JC (from his autobiography) then this was obviously set up to be "event TV"
Failed spectacularly. Just ruined the show.
Someone said there have been 'issues' between Osman and Clarkson in the past so it looks as if he was chosen in the hope there would be some good interaction but it went very wrong.
I think Osman has got too big for his boots.
I wonder if they tried to get Piers Morgan on but could not so they thought Osman would be a good alternative.
I think the BBC production staff might have rejected the idea of such a loopy looking woman talking about 'pork', especially with Jezzer around - the comedy outlets are manifold.
I was hoping JC would thump Osman. Osman came over as the school swot trying to be one of the lads by making "witty" comments about someone and failing miserably.
I don't think you'll ever see that. Clarkson is the type of bully-boy who would only "thump" someone who was extremely unlikely to fight back. Osman is about 6ft 7" and can probably take care of himself.
The show was poor. But as far as the Clarkson/Osman confrontation goes, the BBC must have known how things would turn out. Osman detests Clarkson, what did they expect ? It was a stupid set up that just wasn't entertaining. I blame the BBC.
Well it filled 30 minutes, but wasn't a great episode. 'Dick' Osman became VERY tedious very quickly and even the usually leftie audience seemed to tire of his stupid remarks. He seems to be another BBC presenter who thinks he's a bigger star than he actually is.
As usual Hislop was the only one who offered anything decent to the show.
don't know if just me, but merton seems increasingly bored with the show these days. and agree, osman's comments were funny enough, well the first couple, but he should have left it at that, otherwise it's often human nature to start feeling a degree of sympathy for the butt of the jokes.
Add me to the list of people who thought Osman took it way too far. I'm assuming that most of the barbs were scripted though (no, really?! ) as some of them were too forced and obvious, such as 'Amazon past its' Prime'. It was as if every second comment from Osman was a dig, which wore out its welcome long before the end of the show. Even the 'What are they going to do, f**king sack me?' line from Clarkson just seemed too contrived.
That aside, it was a good show. Loved the clips of the guys on the escalator (what was the context of that clip? Why were they going up it? ), Farage's excruciating 'Why don't you come up to my room in about 30 minutes' and Corbyn reading out the autocue instruction as if it was part of his speech. That's what I love about HIGNFY generally; the little clips that probably don't get covered anywhere else that tell you more than the sanitised media reporting. It's usually the guests that put me off watching it.
Best bit was Hislop's impassioned - and absolutely bang on - rant about Lord Ashcroft towards the end. It's a politically slanted topical news game, but rarely do you see any real anger such as that. Most of the panellists are either too biased/ kiss-ass or just not intelligent or informed enough to come out with something like he did.
I thought it was an ok episode, but it lost it's flow towards the end. I actually thought Osman's remarks were funny, and I think completely the contrary to most other posters- I used to find Osman irritating and smug, but I respect him more after last night's HIGNFY for properly giving Clarkson a long overdue ribbing.
Hislop seemed rusty and out of practice, particularly when he was desperately trying to make the audience laugh during his ramble about the David Cameron allegations. He'll improve as the series goes on.
I think we should start counting how many contributions Paul Merton makes in an episode. He can't have made more than half a dozen jokes during this one, but he also had the funniest joke of the night when he went into his frenzy of screaming about "throwing chips" at Clarkson to stop him from hitting Osman.
Camilla Long was the usual token woman- a couple of scripted gags that weren't funny, and very smug. The decline in quality of BBC satirical panel shows started as soon as the introduced the token women policy. By all means, have funny women on panel shows; but don't make a rule which says a show has to have UNFUNNY female panellists just to make up the numbers.
Clarkson looked bored and certainly wasn't in "top gear" if you'll excuse the pun.
I'll be interested to see HIGABMNFY to find out what was cut from the shorter version.
Hislop seemed rusty and out of practice, particularly when he was desperately trying to make the audience laugh during his ramble about the David Cameron allegations. He'll improve as the series goes on.
See, I didn't see it that way. I don't think Hislop was trying to be funny. It seemed to me like he was genuinely angry that Ashcroft was getting such an easy ride for no apparent reason. Hislop's not a comedian, per se, and he's not there to provide comic relief. He's there for the political side of things, so doesn't need to be funny. Far from being 'rusty', he was as fired up and on form as I've ever see him.
If by 'improve', you mean you hope he becomes more humourous and less political, I certainly hope he doesn't.
Jeremy Clarkson shouldn't have even been on the show he is humourless and his contributions to the show involved him talking about his erection and swearing. The Mirror has a story about him craving cigarettes and pissing off the the floor manager and telling the audience not to clap when jokes were made at his expense.
I felt he just saw the show as another pay check to get over as quickly as possible by skipping questions and manipulate the spinning wheel so the panel couldn't get in any material on the other subjects.
I think Osmon was doing what he's been invited to do make as many contributions as possible, it's the editors job to sort through it all and produce the final 30 minutes, if the show was too anti Clarkson for some peoples liking maybe he's pissed off more people in the industry not just an assault on that poor man.
Clarkson has been an excellent host & guest in the past.
From seeing how his mood went downhill, it seems he just thought "I'm just gonna keep shtum, read the script and get it over with".
With the usual level of good humoured p**staking it would have been a good show, but if the producers knew that Osman despises JC (from his autobiography) then this was obviously set up to be "event TV"
Failed spectacularly. Just ruined the show.
I wholeheartedly agree. There was a mean-spirited feeling about the whole show, a sort of anger in the background. As usual, Osman couldn't let go of a joke which might have been funny if he just used it once, but his constant spiteful attacks on JC made the show downright unpleasant. It looked to me as if there was more than the usual amount of editing too.
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Hmm lets see, Clarkson apologised directly to the individual and reported himself to his own boss, Saville had people lying for him for years and denied everything and was never punished. Further Saville abused vulnerable people, whereas and later establised Clarkson was in a vulnerable state due to his cancer scare and was pushed to the edge by it.
Yes Clarkson does come out with some very non-PC comments but does apologise if they go over the line of acceptability.
What Clarkson did was wrong but Richard Osman clearly showed that part of the BBC who clearly hated him.
Back to the show, this has to be one of the worst examples of editing a show. The flow completely changed mid sentence and segments clearly cut out.
from Osman's autobiography or Clarkson's ? what does he say ?
Osman really made a tit of himself there , he's usually pretty funny , but he just came across as vindictive and killed the mood of the show
But they should have all given the editor last night a darn good kicking.
I know we all like to have a go at dear old JC, but the Osman creature was truly obnoxious.
There's a big difference between banter and being an out and out vindictive, baiting little troll.
Unfortunately, Osman doesn't seem know (or care) where the line is and came across as a third rate tosser with a substantial chip on his shoulder.
The rest of the show (sans Osman) was damned funny though.
Thought he was a decent bloke as he comes across on Pointless but last night was just childish schoolyard sniping.
It ruined the show for me. I'd be happy to see Clarkson back (although I'm no fan of his) but not Osman.
That Clarkson, to his credit, from what we saw was having none of it and just didn't react just made Osman look a even bigger pillock than he already is
Apart from Osman, overall I enjoyed the show though
Someone said there have been 'issues' between Osman and Clarkson in the past so it looks as if he was chosen in the hope there would be some good interaction but it went very wrong.
I think Osman has got too big for his boots.
I wonder if they tried to get Piers Morgan on but could not so they thought Osman would be a good alternative.
The person who books the guests is the one who needs a kicking.
Not if you're called Dave.
I think the BBC production staff might have rejected the idea of such a loopy looking woman talking about 'pork', especially with Jezzer around - the comedy outlets are manifold.
I don't think you'll ever see that. Clarkson is the type of bully-boy who would only "thump" someone who was extremely unlikely to fight back. Osman is about 6ft 7" and can probably take care of himself.
The show was poor. But as far as the Clarkson/Osman confrontation goes, the BBC must have known how things would turn out. Osman detests Clarkson, what did they expect ? It was a stupid set up that just wasn't entertaining. I blame the BBC.
As usual Hislop was the only one who offered anything decent to the show.
5/10
That aside, it was a good show. Loved the clips of the guys on the escalator (what was the context of that clip? Why were they going up it?
Best bit was Hislop's impassioned - and absolutely bang on - rant about Lord Ashcroft towards the end. It's a politically slanted topical news game, but rarely do you see any real anger such as that. Most of the panellists are either too biased/ kiss-ass or just not intelligent or informed enough to come out with something like he did.
Hislop seemed rusty and out of practice, particularly when he was desperately trying to make the audience laugh during his ramble about the David Cameron allegations. He'll improve as the series goes on.
I think we should start counting how many contributions Paul Merton makes in an episode. He can't have made more than half a dozen jokes during this one, but he also had the funniest joke of the night when he went into his frenzy of screaming about "throwing chips" at Clarkson to stop him from hitting Osman.
Camilla Long was the usual token woman- a couple of scripted gags that weren't funny, and very smug. The decline in quality of BBC satirical panel shows started as soon as the introduced the token women policy. By all means, have funny women on panel shows; but don't make a rule which says a show has to have UNFUNNY female panellists just to make up the numbers.
Clarkson looked bored and certainly wasn't in "top gear" if you'll excuse the pun.
I'll be interested to see HIGABMNFY to find out what was cut from the shorter version.
What a horrid man he is. I just caught up with this and Osman was unbelievably nasty >:(
If by 'improve', you mean you hope he becomes more humourous and less political, I certainly hope he doesn't.
I felt he just saw the show as another pay check to get over as quickly as possible by skipping questions and manipulate the spinning wheel so the panel couldn't get in any material on the other subjects.
I think Osmon was doing what he's been invited to do make as many contributions as possible, it's the editors job to sort through it all and produce the final 30 minutes, if the show was too anti Clarkson for some peoples liking maybe he's pissed off more people in the industry not just an assault on that poor man.
It would seem that Richard Osman was continuously having a go at JC and perhaps that was because they thought it was what the viewers would expect.
I wholeheartedly agree. There was a mean-spirited feeling about the whole show, a sort of anger in the background. As usual, Osman couldn't let go of a joke which might have been funny if he just used it once, but his constant spiteful attacks on JC made the show downright unpleasant. It looked to me as if there was more than the usual amount of editing too.