Based on the sheer amount of stupid posts he makes, the guy lives in his own, weird, dreamworld - so unless he wakes up to the real world and accepts that his own warped view of everything is not actually how the world really is, then I worry about him ever growing up at all.
Yes, and Tom Jones is going to sing his answers to Grahams questions next time he is on.
Maybe Jamie Oliver could bring a little camping stove and place it in front of him and rustle something up as he is being interviewed.
BIB I am not sure if you are being sarcastic with this comment because he has done almost
exactly this on chat shows before.
I also do think it is a bit different for comedians as they are generally expected to raise
some laughs even if they are also expected to just chat about stuff. It would obviously be
ridiculous for some guests to do the day job on a chat show but it is normally different
for comedians.
The problem comes when they are so "on" that there is no semblance of just being
themselves which can be tiresome. McIntyre is one who is often like this. Another I have
noticed who makes for a terrible guest for similar reasons is Harry Hill.
McIntyre was funny when he started out. Unfortunately for me, the novelty soon wore off and I found the over excited high pitched squealing and repetitious routine tiresome. I know hes very popular of course...but each to their own. He was a pain in the backside on The One Show...like an over indulged schoolboy butting in, me me me - look at me not him..type stuff. That's the way it is now though....not content to make stars out of people, television now insists we allow them to be rammed down our throats till we eventually baulk.
I was intrigued so watched skipping to bits with him and it was hardly that big a deal.
I am not a fan of his comedy albeit he is good at what he does. He is quite annoying on
chat shows with his somewhat hyper attention seeking style but they surely know what
to expect.
It did sound like he said f*cking but it was mumbled so easy to miss or could have been
something similar but not actually that. I think the tension stemmed from the fact that he
wouldn't shut up which is always tricky on this show as they are always jumping from
item to item under tight time constraints. Both presenters certainly seemed to be getting
annoyed by him but overall not a big deal.
BIB I saw Richard Herring a few years ago doing one of his stand up shows and he was
absolutely amazing. If you want comedy with depth that is also hilarious he is one of the best.
Herring has done some brilliant shows. Seen him live more than Lee and am probably fonder of his stuff than Stewart's, but there ain't much in it. They're both great. McIntyre's okay for a more mainstream act. Has his moments.
McIntyre was funny when he started out. Unfortunately for me, the novelty soon wore off and I found the over excited high pitched squealing and repetitious routine tiresome. I know hes very popular of course...but each to their own. He was a pain in the backside on The One Show...like an over indulged schoolboy butting in, me me me - look at me not him..type stuff. That's the way it is now though....not content to make stars out of people, television now insists we allow them to be rammed down our throats till we eventually baulk.
I do think that the culture of fame and celebrity is such today that unless the "talent" is OTT and forces their act on people that they wont get over. In the past less was more when it comes to act's. Today's culture has meant that being subtle is missed. They need to make it obvious they are funny or what their act is or the causal viewer wont get it
McIntyre was funny when he started out. Unfortunately for me, the novelty soon wore off and I found the over excited high pitched squealing and repetitious routine tiresome. I know hes very popular of course...but each to their own. He was a pain in the backside on The One Show...like an over indulged schoolboy butting in, me me me - look at me not him..type stuff. That's the way it is now though....not content to make stars out of people, television now insists we allow them to be rammed down our throats till we eventually baulk.
I totally agree, like a lot of comedians now they don't pay their dues honing material over the years. The BBC snaps them up after one of two spots on the Apollo or Mock The Week and destroys them. Look at John Bishop, started out marginally funny and then the next time I saw him on the Apollo he had no material other than 'Now I'm famous...' It's like the US comedy scene in the 90s; Dennis Leary was snapped up after a pretty much carbon copy of the late Bill Hicks' act criticising US foreign policy and warmongering and soon found he had nothing else to form a show. 40 mins about different types of coffee trying for the same anger? No thanks!
Oh and Stewart Lee has more funny in his little finger than McIntyre could ever dream to have. Its not jealousy - why be jealous of someone with no talent and no material when you have both in abundance?
I do think that the culture of fame and celebrity is such today that unless the "talent" is OTT and forces their act on people that they wont get over. In the past less was more when it comes to act's. Today's culture has meant that being subtle is missed. They need to make it obvious they are funny or what their act is or the causal viewer wont get it
Yes I know what you mean. Im glad there are more subtle comedians around who manage to have a funny routine and delivery without the need to underscore/explain every tagline.
No-one just randomly APPEARS on the Royal Variety show without at least some pretty significant media connections or at least middling success, so the idea this entitled, millionaire born to a wealthy, media connected family is somehow a triumphant figurehead and example of the hard-done-by working man trying to break into comedy is a little laughable frankly.
But then I'm just jealous of his success... what would I know...
You haven't read his autobiography.
Before he was on the Royal Variety, he was a complete unknown without any success as a comedian. He was having financial problems and not enough people were going to his gigs. Then the Royal Variety came and sprung him to the success story he is today.
Oh and Stewart Lee has more funny in his little finger than McIntyre could ever dream to have. Its not jealousy - why be jealous of someone with no talent and no material when you have both in abundance?
Because Michael McIntyre has been way more successful than him.
It should probably be pointed out that Dalekbuster is the poster who started at least four threads proclaiming Rolf Harris' innocence. He also tried to justify the use of child pornography for 'artistic reasons'.
I saw Richard Herring a few years ago doing one of his stand up shows and he was
absolutely amazing. If you want comedy with depth that is also hilarious he is one of the best.
It should probably be pointed out that Dalekbuster is the poster who started at least four threads proclaiming Rolf Harris' innocence. He also tried to justify the use of child pornography for 'artistic reasons'.
Absolutely wretched. >:(
Thanks, that makes sense now. I had a feeling Dalekbuster was either a bit "special" or a troll looking for attention and that comfirms it.
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Bless him, he will grow up one day lol !
I doubt it...
Based on the sheer amount of stupid posts he makes, the guy lives in his own, weird, dreamworld - so unless he wakes up to the real world and accepts that his own warped view of everything is not actually how the world really is, then I worry about him ever growing up at all.
BIB I am not sure if you are being sarcastic with this comment because he has done almost
exactly this on chat shows before.
I also do think it is a bit different for comedians as they are generally expected to raise
some laughs even if they are also expected to just chat about stuff. It would obviously be
ridiculous for some guests to do the day job on a chat show but it is normally different
for comedians.
The problem comes when they are so "on" that there is no semblance of just being
themselves which can be tiresome. McIntyre is one who is often like this. Another I have
noticed who makes for a terrible guest for similar reasons is Harry Hill.
That depends on what his job is.
To be funny
Or
To be rude.
The two don't have to go hand in hand.
You can be funny and respectful at the same time. The top top comedian's are able to balance between the two.
Herring has done some brilliant shows. Seen him live more than Lee and am probably fonder of his stuff than Stewart's, but there ain't much in it. They're both great. McIntyre's okay for a more mainstream act. Has his moments.
By the way, Im a fan of McIntyre, I have his book, a couple of DVDs and saw him on tour, but yes, he was a bit erratic on the One Show.
I do think that the culture of fame and celebrity is such today that unless the "talent" is OTT and forces their act on people that they wont get over. In the past less was more when it comes to act's. Today's culture has meant that being subtle is missed. They need to make it obvious they are funny or what their act is or the causal viewer wont get it
I totally agree, like a lot of comedians now they don't pay their dues honing material over the years. The BBC snaps them up after one of two spots on the Apollo or Mock The Week and destroys them. Look at John Bishop, started out marginally funny and then the next time I saw him on the Apollo he had no material other than 'Now I'm famous...' It's like the US comedy scene in the 90s; Dennis Leary was snapped up after a pretty much carbon copy of the late Bill Hicks' act criticising US foreign policy and warmongering and soon found he had nothing else to form a show. 40 mins about different types of coffee trying for the same anger? No thanks!
Oh and Stewart Lee has more funny in his little finger than McIntyre could ever dream to have. Its not jealousy - why be jealous of someone with no talent and no material when you have both in abundance?
Yes I know what you mean. Im glad there are more subtle comedians around who manage to have a funny routine and delivery without the need to underscore/explain every tagline.
I'm not jealous of him. I just think it's wrong when people call him 'rude' for doing things which comedians tend to do.
Likes!
You haven't read his autobiography.
Before he was on the Royal Variety, he was a complete unknown without any success as a comedian. He was having financial problems and not enough people were going to his gigs. Then the Royal Variety came and sprung him to the success story he is today.
Because Michael McIntyre has been way more successful than him.
Stewart Lee's career has spanned about 25-30 years on TV, Radio, Books, tours etc. McItyre's career has just been different, more mainstream.
It should probably be pointed out that Dalekbuster is the poster who started at least four threads proclaiming Rolf Harris' innocence. He also tried to justify the use of child pornography for 'artistic reasons'.
Absolutely wretched. >:(
Or to be rude.
Interrupting guests can "be funny" but it can also be rude. It depends on how you play it.
Totally irrelevant (once again).
Since you have not seen it you have no idea if he was being rude or not.
How do you quantify success?
And Stewart Lee has been less reliant on skipping around stage and screeching like a 5 year old on helium.
I came across by accident just what Stewart Lee has done over the years. I was quite shocked.
His Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre Podcast chat shows are brilliant and knocks MM's Chat Show right out of the park.
http://www.comedy.co.uk/podcasts/richard_herring_lst_podcast/
Thanks, that makes sense now. I had a feeling Dalekbuster was either a bit "special" or a troll looking for attention and that comfirms it.
Vile !