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Was it wrong for most of the top dress designers to not dress Melania Trump

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    muggins14muggins14 Posts: 61,844
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    dee123 wrote: »
    Smashed it? :rolleyes: It's like she channeled Jackie O. using two soup cans and a piece of string.

    That's what happens with 'style icons' which apparently Jackie Onassis was - a LOT of people copied her style of dress, just as people copy others in the public eye these days. It's not a new thing and it's one of the ways that trends start. Madonna started a trend back in the 80's when she first became known, many people have started trends (the Beatles, Elvis, Beyonce, all sorts).

    With Jackie being back in fashion at the moment - a film doing the rounds at the moment and a recent TV series about her, it's no surprise that her style would once again be in focus.

    Pouncing on it just because of who Melania is is rather childish. The outfit isn't married to Trump, after all :D I don't like Trump, I don't know his wife but I don't like her taste in men :D I did, however, think her outfit on Friday were lovely, and I'm sure it'd have been considered lovely by others if it were somebody else wearing it.

    She wasn't channelling Jackie after all, the designer was ;)
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    hufflestuffhufflestuff Posts: 2,373
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    JDF wrote: »
    They are FREE to dress who they like .
    Welsh-lad wrote: »
    They can do business with whoever they like.

    Good thing they weren't ordering a cake from a Northern Irish bakery. They can't do business with whoever they like. :)
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    razorback Tonyrazorback Tony Posts: 882
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    I see no problem if they freely choose not to supply her if that's the case.
    That said how much of it is is bullying and shaming within the industry like the number of republican actors in Hollywood that dare not come out as they will likely never work again?
    Thinking about it what is the difference between refusing make a Gay wedding cake because of your faith and refusing to make a dress because you disagree with the politics of the customers husband?


    Maybe I'm missing something here julian, but Clint Eastwood, Kirstie Alley, Stephen Baldwin, Jon Voight and maybe others, have all declared for Trump.
    No idea if any of them are registered Republicans, but I can't see them never working again.
    On the other hand Kanye West backed Trump, that's a millstone round his neck right there, having him on your side is tantamount to having Rolf Harris as a vice presidential running mate IMO.
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    Susie_SmithSusie_Smith Posts: 7,533
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    marjangles wrote: »
    You think Ralph Lauren isn't overpriced tat?!

    And she may be glamorous but give me substantive like Michelle Obama any day of the week over the vapid clothes horse the Americans have now.

    I know she comes across as vapid and was a model, but she is no idiot. I would guess she has above average intelligence.
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    marjanglesmarjangles Posts: 9,738
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    I know she comes across as vapid and was a model, but she is no idiot. I would guess she has above average intelligence.

    Why would you guess that? What did she do during the campaign except plagiarise Michelle Obama?
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    JDFJDF Posts: 4,250
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    Good thing they weren't ordering a cake from a Northern Irish bakery. They can't do business with whoever they like. :)

    That is not the same thing is IT.
    The bakery that could not make the cake for the gay wedding were in the wrong.

    Not wanting a woman to wear your dress is a big different.
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    marjanglesmarjangles Posts: 9,738
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    muggins14 wrote: »
    That's what happens with 'style icons' which apparently Jackie Onassis was - a LOT of people copied her style of dress, just as people copy others in the public eye these days. It's not a new thing and it's one of the ways that trends start. Madonna started a trend back in the 80's when she first became known, many people have started trends (the Beatles, Elvis, Beyonce, all sorts).

    With Jackie being back in fashion at the moment - a film doing the rounds at the moment and a recent TV series about her, it's no surprise that her style would once again be in focus.

    Pouncing on it just because of who Melania is is rather childish. The outfit isn't married to Trump, after all :D I don't like Trump, I don't know his wife but I don't like her taste in men :D I did, however, think her outfit on Friday were lovely, and I'm sure it'd have been considered lovely by others if it were somebody else wearing it.

    She wasn't channelling Jackie after all, the designer was ;)

    Unless of course she asked for a dress that looked like one worn by Jackie O.
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    dearmrmandearmrman Posts: 21,535
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    Nilrem wrote: »
    She's the wife of the president, not a medieval King who can command the peasantry to work for him.

    I suspect given Trump's outspoken views and those of his political running mates many of the designers wouldn't want to be associated with him in the slightest, let alone working on a specific dress to be worn at a high profile event in a manner that might be seen as endorsing him..

    His brand is becoming very toxic amongst a lot of people, and anyone working with him is going to take that into account, in addition to any personal opinions.

    Hmmm....I suppose they might be worried for their brand, and it shows they endorse DT, might put off people buying from that designer and wearing their clothes knowing they endorse DT....wonder who designed Hilary Clinton's clothes.
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    muggins14muggins14 Posts: 61,844
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    marjangles wrote: »
    Unless of course she asked for a dress that looked like one worn by Jackie O.
    Why would that really matter? Jackie O was, of course, a former First Lady, but also subsequently herself married a not very nice rich man and was labelled by many as a gold-digger - from what people are saying, she'd be a more than appropriate role-model for Melania :p
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    anne_666anne_666 Posts: 72,891
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    Who cares, her outfit was beautiful. I hope she's made a list of the vapid huff meisters. Do they really believe punching above their weight punishes Trumpy?

    dearmrman wrote: »
    Hmmm....I suppose they might be worried for their brand, and it shows they endorse DT, might put off people buying from that designer and wearing their clothes knowing they endorse DT....wonder who designed Hilary Clinton's clothes.

    The local barber.
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    juliancarswelljuliancarswell Posts: 8,896
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    anne_666 wrote: »
    Who cares, her outfit was beautiful. I hope she's made a list of the vapid huff meisters. Do they really believe punching above their weight punishes Trumpy?




    The local barber.
    Hahaha:D
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    Welsh-ladWelsh-lad Posts: 51,940
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    Aging moll? That's your opinion Taff, and in a free and democratic society you have every right to both hold it, and express it.

    And so have cockney oiks like you :)
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    kizziekizzie Posts: 5,756
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    Its all showbiz.

    Love (actually don't love) how all these people are protesting Trump and his Mrs
    While staying silent when Obama was crying over American children being killed, while bombing other countries killing their children.>:(

    Yay lets protest about crap while real deadly things go on.

    Its all BS .
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    hufflestuffhufflestuff Posts: 2,373
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    JDF wrote: »
    That is not the same thing is IT.
    The bakery that could not make the cake for the gay wedding were in the wrong.

    Not wanting a woman to wear your dress is a big different.

    Why is IT a big different? Person wants to purchase the skills and services of someone in both scenarios. Supplier of skills and services refuses based on their principals. The only difference is whether you agree or not with the principles of the supplier in either case.
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    ramraiderukramraideruk Posts: 1,190
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    Maybe they didn't want to be associated with an x-porn star.
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    The DoveThe Dove Posts: 1,221
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    marjangles wrote: »
    Why would you guess that? What did she do during the campaign except plagiarise Michelle Obama?

    She's able to speak six languages.
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    JDFJDF Posts: 4,250
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    Why is IT a big different? Person wants to purchase the skills and services of someone in both scenarios. Supplier of skills and services refuses based on their principals. The only difference is whether you agree or not with the principles of the supplier in either case.

    Cause it discrimination to not give homosexual a service.
    Her husband has vile policies and people are standing up for their principles.
    Ok I will give the trump any of my business if I had one or anybody in the Conservative Party over here.

    BTW people do not choose to be homosexual but they choose their political views or their religion.
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    marjanglesmarjangles Posts: 9,738
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    Why is IT a big different? Person wants to purchase the skills and services of someone in both scenarios. Supplier of skills and services refuses based on their principals. The only difference is whether you agree or not with the principles of the supplier in either case.

    But there is a difference between not wanting to serve a particular individual based on who that person is specifically and refusing to serve a group in society based on a general shared characteristic such as sex, race, sexuality, religion etc.

    These people apparently don't like Donald Trump, not because he's a man or straight or white but because they perceive him as a horrible person (not without reason) and they don't want to sell their products to him or anyone associated with him. That's perfectly acceptable. If I made a tape in which went public and in which i confessed that I have sexually assaulted women I probably would expect to be spurned also.
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    Shoe LaceShoe Lace Posts: 612
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    The Dove wrote: »
    She's able to speak six languages.
    I very much doubt that. She can barely string a coherent sentence together in English and she has been living in the States for how long? Knowing a few words is far from being fluent in a language.
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    MuggsyMuggsy Posts: 19,251
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    dearmrman wrote: »
    Hmmm....I suppose they might be worried for their brand, and it shows they endorse DT, might put off people buying from that designer and wearing their clothes knowing they endorse DT....wonder who designed Hilary Clinton's clothes.


    Hilary's outfit was also designed by Ralph Lauren. That man knows how to stay neutral.:D
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    Ben_CoplandBen_Copland Posts: 4,602
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    Shoe Lace wrote: »
    I very much doubt that. She can barely string a coherent sentence together in English and she has been living in the States for how long? Knowing a few words is far from being fluent in a language.

    She has better English than most people on here.
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    D_Mcd4D_Mcd4 Posts: 10,438
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    Muggsy wrote: »
    Hilary's outfit was also designed by Ralph Lauren. That man knows how to stay neutral.:D

    So poor Hillary was also reduced to scraping the bottom of the barrell! :D
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    anne_666anne_666 Posts: 72,891
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    marjangles wrote: »
    But there is a difference between not wanting to serve a particular individual based on who that person is specifically and refusing to serve a group in society based on a general shared characteristic such as sex, race, sexuality, religion etc.

    These people apparently don't like Donald Trump, not because he's a man or straight or white but because they perceive him as a horrible person (not without reason) and they don't want to sell their products to him or anyone associated with him. That's perfectly acceptable. If I made a tape in which went public and in which i confessed that I have sexually assaulted women I probably would expect to be spurned also.

    When did Mrs Trump do that?:o
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    RobinOfLoxleyRobinOfLoxley Posts: 27,040
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    The Dove wrote: »
    She's able to speak six languages.

    Have you double checked that snippet with independent sources? And to what level she speaks them?

    She got away with the Architecture Degree 'mistake' for some years.

    A bientot
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    marjanglesmarjangles Posts: 9,738
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    anne_666 wrote: »
    When did Mrs Trump do that?:o

    When did I say she did? I mentioned the fact that they didn't want to deal with Trump or anyone associated with him and then gave one reason why that might be the case.
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