We know what happened to the Australian prints - they were returned to BBC Enterprises in 1974, and all subsequently junked. Apart from the handful that got sprited away, which is why odd Australian edited episodes (Galaxy 4 and The Underwater Menace, for the most recent examples) have occasionally turned up in the UK and not Australia.
Maybe more got "sprited away" in the process, shame ABC had to return them 3 years before the practise stopped! >:(
At this point, I'd be more surprised if it hadn't been found (especially when the rumours suggest that it's been found in 3 different places )
Then it looks like it will be Ethopia, Singapore and Hong Kong and if it is the case, well there should be more find since the latter 2 bought a lot of "Who"
It's already fairly ironic as no footage of it exists yet it was widely sold and widely copied. Disney were even planning a movie based on it before the Dalek ones were even discussed so they must have had something to show studio executives.
Anyway Marco Polo is like buses, one copy will turn up then a few more shortly after!
Did Disney receive any copies of MP, on the missing episodes thread, we have talked about the posibblity that American TV networks might have copies of 60s Who they don't even know they have...
Well if it was found then Singapore, Hong Kong and Ethiopia are the most likely locations, if that is the case expect more discoveries in both Singapore and Hong Kong...
Marco Polo - found, three copies seems to have been recovered, with the best possible compilation being made for restoration. Slated for release in the next announcement.
If that is the case, the 3 copies are most likely to come from Singapore, Hong Kong and Ethiopia, with Iran, Kenya, Ghana, Barbados and Canada being less likely or even someone stole the the Australian or New Zealand prints
Reign of Terror - parts 4 and 5 found. No word on whether it's being restored or not. But I expect it to be released on iTunes in the next announcement.
If true, then it is likely to have been found in either Singapore, Hong Kong, Gibraltar, Uganda, Barbados or Ethiopia or someone stole the New Zeland prints
The Crusade - found in full. Better prints of episode 1, at least. I expect them to be released in the next announcement.
If true, then it is likely to have been found in Zambia, Ethiopia, Gibraltar or Jamaica, otherwise someone stole the Australian and New Zealand prints (certainly the NZBC print of Episode 1, which was found)
Galaxy 4 - found in full. Better prints for the existing episode. I do not know when they'll be released, but I hope it's the next announcement.
If true, then it is likely to have been found in Zambia, Singapore, Sierra Leone or Barbados, or someone stole the Australian prints (which was the case with the found copy of Episode 3)
Myth Makers - all reported to be found. Probably being worked on. I don't know when they'll be released, but I think it'll be in the next announcement.
If true, then it is likely to have been found in Zambia, Singapore, Sierra Leone or Barbados, otherwise someone stole the Australian prints
DMP - okay. 4, 7, 11, and 12 reported to be found. 1, 3, 6, 8, and 9 are uncertain. 9 is reported to be a sole remaining missing episode, according to Eddie on OS. I'll believe when I see it, although 4, 7, 11, and 12 are likely. 11 and 12 are in the process of being unwound.
The only posibblity is really the Australian viewing prints, although Episode 4 might have come from Blue Peter
Massacre - all found. Should be restored already or in the process. Should be in the next announcement.
If true, then it is likely to have been found in Zambia, Singapore, Sierra Leone or Barbados, or someone stole the Australian prints when they where junked.
Found recently? I don't recall any bits of Marco on Lost in Time.
Well not for all of them I agree, but for a fair number of them.
As for Marco, well if they are found in either Hong Kong, Singapore or Ethiopia, the prints in question do not come from Australia, so they are unlikely to be censored unless they did it themselves...
Scot Ferre has said he is now unsure of some stuff, still thinks 80+ not counting Enemy/Web has been found but thinks MTTU/Daleks Masterplan/Space Pirates and the 2 each from Ice Warriors & The Invasion haven't.
Isn't there a big problem in that false rumours have deliberate been spread by the powers that be in order to track down the source of the leaks? To my mind that must put all of the more recent rumours (say from DMP onwards) in serious doubt. Well, more serious doubt than there was already.
Mind you, I think that the fale rumour report was in itself a rumour. I think we need some sort of timeline chart to keep track of what reports cropped up when.
Scot Ferre has said he is now unsure of some stuff, still thinks 80+ not counting Enemy/Web has been found but thinks MTTU/Daleks Masterplan/Space Pirates and the 2 each from Ice Warriors & The Invasion haven't.
Who is Scott Ferre? Sorry is is hard to keep track on all the rumours!
Anyway should I create a list of every rumour that has been stated since the offical annoucement on the discovery of WOF/EOTW?
Personally I think this saga will go on for another 5 years at least.
Also the "2 each from Ice Warriors & The Invasion" does not really matter since they are now animated anyway...
Who is Scott Ferre? Sorry is is hard to keep track on all the rumours!
Anyway should I create a list of every rumour that has been stated since the offical annoucement on the discovery of WOF/EOTW?
Scott is a fairly well respected fan who is close to various people in the know. He was one of the ones who announced Web/Enemy/Marco were found and being released in August 2013. As it turned out only Web/Enemy were, and Web was missing an episode but that's close enough for the majority of people to hold his views as more than just trolling.
As for the list, the omnirumour list that Doctor Who Worldwide release is pretty much exactly that.
"To the fans, never give up hope. Be patient. People are working very hard in lots of very volatile and dangerous corners of the globe, sometimes paying with their nervous systems, which is a hard thing to give. As always, TIEA are out there. Expect the unexpected."
On the basis that some Who fans are so certain there's a conspiracy that it's now actually the non-appearance of episodes that is unexpected to them?
Perhaps! Though if Morris was trolling Who fandom that much, I'd expect him to be revealed as a new supervillain in the series, possibly making his entrance by knocking Capaldi out with a Feast of Steven film can
Scot Ferre has said he is now unsure of some stuff, still thinks 80+ not counting Enemy/Web has been found but thinks MTTU/Daleks Masterplan/Space Pirates and the 2 each from Ice Warriors & The Invasion haven't.
He also thinks his proclaimed Easter announcement (since loosened to be "spring") is also now looking dodgy. You've gotta laugh - this guy knows nothing.
There are no recordings at all of 2 of the 3 missing Dad's Army- they don't have audio recordings- so I too would be highly skeptical of animation being cancelled rumours.
There are the radio versions - they could try to animate them.
Oh there is plenty of evidence out there about where leaks are coming from. Just because you are not aware of it does not change that.
Of course EW is the only verifiable leak but that is not quite the same.
You cannot call any of this information a leak until it is verifiable. Until then it is an unsubstantiated rumour and quite possibly not based on a leak at all.
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Maybe more got "sprited away" in the process, shame ABC had to return them 3 years before the practise stopped! >:(
The sections that where censored where retained and have been found...
Then it looks like it will be Ethopia, Singapore and Hong Kong and if it is the case, well there should be more find since the latter 2 bought a lot of "Who"
Shame it was not true, any other dictators who might have been fans of Dr Who?
Did Disney receive any copies of MP, on the missing episodes thread, we have talked about the posibblity that American TV networks might have copies of 60s Who they don't even know they have...
Well if it was found then Singapore, Hong Kong and Ethiopia are the most likely locations, if that is the case expect more discoveries in both Singapore and Hong Kong...
If that is the case, the 3 copies are most likely to come from Singapore, Hong Kong and Ethiopia, with Iran, Kenya, Ghana, Barbados and Canada being less likely or even someone stole the the Australian or New Zealand prints
If true, then it is likely to have been found in either Singapore, Hong Kong, Gibraltar, Uganda, Barbados or Ethiopia or someone stole the New Zeland prints
If true, then it is likely to have been found in Zambia, Ethiopia, Gibraltar or Jamaica, otherwise someone stole the Australian and New Zealand prints (certainly the NZBC print of Episode 1, which was found)
If true, then it is likely to have been found in Zambia, Singapore, Sierra Leone or Barbados, or someone stole the Australian prints (which was the case with the found copy of Episode 3)
Either someone stole the Australian print or it has been found in Singapore (it has been claimed that RTS did broadcast the episode)
If true, then it is likely to have been found in Zambia, Singapore, Sierra Leone or Barbados, otherwise someone stole the Australian prints
The only posibblity is really the Australian viewing prints, although Episode 4 might have come from Blue Peter
If true, then it is likely to have been found in Zambia, Singapore, Sierra Leone or Barbados, or someone stole the Australian prints when they where junked.
More to follow...
Found recently? I don't recall any bits of Marco on Lost in Time.
Well not for all of them I agree, but for a fair number of them.
As for Marco, well if they are found in either Hong Kong, Singapore or Ethiopia, the prints in question do not come from Australia, so they are unlikely to be censored unless they did it themselves...
http://missingepisodes.blogspot.de/p/censors.html
No clips exist at all of Marco Polo.
Mind you, I think that the fale rumour report was in itself a rumour. I think we need some sort of timeline chart to keep track of what reports cropped up when.
Who is Scott Ferre? Sorry is is hard to keep track on all the rumours!
Anyway should I create a list of every rumour that has been stated since the offical annoucement on the discovery of WOF/EOTW?
Personally I think this saga will go on for another 5 years at least.
Also the "2 each from Ice Warriors & The Invasion" does not really matter since they are now animated anyway...
Scott is a fairly well respected fan who is close to various people in the know. He was one of the ones who announced Web/Enemy/Marco were found and being released in August 2013. As it turned out only Web/Enemy were, and Web was missing an episode but that's close enough for the majority of people to hold his views as more than just trolling.
As for the list, the omnirumour list that Doctor Who Worldwide release is pretty much exactly that.
I was right! This thread will be my lasting legacy!
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What list have BBC WW released?
I said Doctor Who Worldwide, not BBC Worldwide.
http://doctorwhoworldwide.com/category/missing-episodes/
"To the fans, never give up hope. Be patient. People are working very hard in lots of very volatile and dangerous corners of the globe, sometimes paying with their nervous systems, which is a hard thing to give. As always, TIEA are out there. Expect the unexpected."
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-02-26/doctor-who-episode-hunter-philip-morris-on-the-search-for-lost-tapes-expect-the-unexpected
"Expect the unexpected" > "THEY ARE NOT MISSING BUT DESTROYED THE END."
On the basis that some Who fans are so certain there's a conspiracy that it's now actually the non-appearance of episodes that is unexpected to them?
(Places knotted handkerchief on head and adopts the Gumby pose)
"My brain hurts!"
Perhaps! Though if Morris was trolling Who fandom that much, I'd expect him to be revealed as a new supervillain in the series, possibly making his entrance by knocking Capaldi out with a Feast of Steven film can
He also thinks his proclaimed Easter announcement (since loosened to be "spring") is also now looking dodgy. You've gotta laugh - this guy knows nothing.
Who claims he is close to people in the know.
There are the radio versions - they could try to animate them.
You cannot call any of this information a leak until it is verifiable. Until then it is an unsubstantiated rumour and quite possibly not based on a leak at all.