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The Ratings Thread (Part 35)
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Tonight we have EE & AR v BGT from 7:30-9:00 and CS & BGT Results v SW (repeat) from 9:00-10:00.This clash will likely damage everything except CS and BGT Results. SW repeat will be less than 3m, CS could easily be 9m+ and beat BGT main show. BGT results ought be 3rd highest show of the night. EE will be under 6m, it is a teen show tonight (Lauren, Lucy & Whitney which viewers seem to loathe.)
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Cannot see The Gadget Show doing well again tonight as there is a lot of other stuff on.
And I watched the weekends episode and this is much more boring with out the other 3.
Last year EE got 5.2m in the overnights but it was on at 8pm so BGT got a half--hour head start on it which doesn't happen this year.
I wonder if Antiques Roadshow will finish above Eastenders tonight as EE will have more of an audience overlap with BGT than AR does.
Saturday 5th January
Doctor Who - 6.45pm
The Voice: Blind Auditions - 7.30pm
National Lottery: In It to Win It - 8.45pm
Mrs Browns Boys - 9.35pm
News - 10.05pm
Match of the Day - 10.25pm
Sunday 6th January
Countryfile - 7.00pm
Casualty - 8.00pm
Call the Midwife - 9.00pm
Then come the live shows.
Saturday 9th February - Saturday 16th March
The Voice Live - 7.00pm
National Lottery: In It to Win It - 8.30pm
The Voice Results - 9.20pm
News - 10.55pm
Match of the Day - 10.15pm
I would ditch Let's Dance altogether and have the phone votes from The Voice get donated to Comic Relief. Also moving Casualty to Sunday would give BBC One a strong line up with Countryfile and Call the Midwife as the bread in the sandwich.
Eastenders is rating much weaker this year than it was prior to BGT last year, I think Eastenders will really struggle this week, possibly we will see BGT and EE both down year-on-year. At least EE won't have a clash on Friday, so overall the weekly average should be up in that sense.
BGT looks a little low as well, should really have been over 10m last night.
I think those who criticised the decision to pre-record the results show are absolutely spot-on - for a show targetted at that key younger demographic, you need some kind of immediacy rather than a day's delay.
Both shows got the ratings they deserved though, BBC1 will not mind as long as the live TV shows remain around 8m or so. I expected 10m for BGT, but I am pretty glad I was proved wrong.
The live show needs a serious re-vamp, and I think this needs to happen this series or there risks not being a 2nd series.
for starters it needs to be live, I would move it to Saturday at 9 or 9:30 once BGT has finished.
secondly they really need to work on increasing the tension of the results show, whether that means altering the lighting, the sound effects or the script I don't know. But at the moment it just feels like a non-event.
I'm also not sure the audience likes the format of one contestant from each team leaving the show, rather than simply the bottom 2 from all teams leaving. Last night for example I felt that Danny's team were far stronger, and he didn't deserve to lose an act as JessieJ had far worse performers.
ITV and Cowell will continue to be happy until BGT isn't the number 1 show in the ratings. At the moment it is.
The format is the same in other countries. If they have to make any tweaks then it's John De Mol's say whether it can.
We will see whether the ratings trend will continue as Australia (who is hosted by Darren McMullen, remember him?) will be entering the live shows in the next week.
It happened twice last year for results - most notably on the Wednesday night which posted 7.47m (7.94m inc +1) against The Apprentice. Tuesdays results show was also below 9m. There were also 2 results shows in 2010 which rated below 9m (Wednesday and Friday). And not including +1, 4 of the 5 semi-finals rated between 9m and 9.5m last year.
2 Hour Averages (Inc +1):
SF1 - 11.02m (Up 4% from 2010)
SF2 - 9.60m (Down 6% from 2010)
SF3 - 9.09m (Down 6% from 2010)
SF4 - 9.62m (Up 2% from 2010)
SF5 - 9.53m (Up 4% from 2010)
(2 hour averages assign a weighting of 3x for the first 90 minute episode compared to the 30 minute results).
In terms of series averages, I think the current one is going into the live shows at the highest level since 2009. But it'll likely end up very close between all 3 series for overall average. This could be the second highest rated series of BGT to date which would be pretty good going.
If BBUS are allowed not to have a vote and BBUK are allowed not to have live feeds.
Beyond such small tweaks, I'm not sure changing the live show format is that easy. How do you make a fundamental change to it? We've already got the element of judges competition. X Factor has widened the net in terms of contestants as far as it can possibly go. So what is the "spinning chair" idea for the live shows?
For now, it seems like John De Mol has created half a brilliant show and filled in the gaps with a somewhat sub par version of the Fuller/Cowell/Fremantle formula.
Whoever comes up with a variation on the live show format could make millions!
Have a 2 hour live show with 2 contestants from each team performing so 8 overall. Have a Eurovision-esque vote in that 2-hour show with us finding out the results from different regions, with the top 4 going through to the final. Do the same thing for the 2nd live show with a further 8 contestants. Then in the final 2.5 hour show, there'll be 8 contestants and do the Eurovision-style voting again, so we find out who ultimately is 'The Voice of Britain'.
You know you're sad when this kind of thing excites you. Can't wait to see it!
It has the early start next week then the football the week after. The week after that is Eurovision but there is talk of The Voice staying on Saturday and not moving to Friday that week now so it might do ok from that point on.
In hindsight the BBC should have launched it the first week of February. Still they will have learned from all this for next year. I would be very surprised if the pre-recorded show is kept for series two.